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JohnIce
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LSA Extractions and Methods
#21856835 - 06/25/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I recently learned about LSA and how it is water soluble. I have a couple questions about it as I am currently doing a "micro-extraction" using cold water.
So my method is this. (I do not know if the results will be credible yet as it is still in process and I need more seeds to get the potency I desire)
I took a mason jar (Clean) Lemon juice (fresh squeezed) Garlic Cloves (Chopped into tiny bits) 7 grams of Semi-ground (I don't have a reliable grinder and grinding over 300 of the seeds with pliers and a razor blade gets tiring) Morning Glory Heavenly Blue seeds Water (I used some sparkling mineral water that was already lemon flavored)
1: Boil 3oz of water and then let sit to room temp in mason jar. 2: Add fresh lemon juice for vitamin C (I believe this helps with administration within your body... I don't really know though. It also helps with taste) 3:Add your ground seeds (my case 7 grams) 4:Add your garlic bits (my source says this helps eliminate the nausea), they are supposed to be added like 4 hours after the mixture has sat in the fridge but I don't see their being any real difference when added early. 5:Wrap your jar with tin foil, reflective side out (to eliminate possibilities of LSA being murdered by light) 6:Shake until stuff is mixed to liking and put in fridge and let sit over night.
That is the process I used, Source below: Source
My questions are these.
I already know that LSA is indeed water soluble and that it is absorbed by the water. So with that note, I was curious if you could use a similar process as I described above for multiple batches of seeds. Like after the first batch has finished, strain out the solids and add another and so on until its strong enough to only have to take a dropper full to get a full on mid level (like 300-400 seeds) trip. I'm going to try it regardless, but I was curious on what you guys might input as I am sure I has been tried before.
Also, I noticed on some of my low-threshold trips (110-175 seeds to 125 LBS body weight) that I got extreme body euphoria similar to what Ecstasy has been described to me to be. Like tingly all over and kind of feels like (and sorry to be crude) your entire body is having sex. In other words, SUPER PLEASURE.
LAST MINUTE NOTE: In the process described above, I forgot to mention that you don't drink the solids that are left over. Before intake you should take a very fine strainer and get only the liquid. You may also (if you get the flavor right) make psychoactive drinks with it or in other words take your favorite mixed alcoholic beverage and use the LSA in place of the alcohol (I don't recommend mixing them, LSA is pretty damn intoxicating as is.)
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JohnIce
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Re: LSA Extractions and Methods [Re: JohnIce]
#21857882 - 06/25/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok so I'm guessing that this is the chemical that is now in the water. I just finished straining it all and I came out with a greyish-brown liquid that smells like garlic. So to eliminate most of the garlic smell (and prolly taste, haven't tasted it so idk) I put in more fresh lemon juice.
My plan is to keep extracting more and more seeds into the mixture until it is potent enough to take a small amount and get good results.
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Re: LSA Extractions and Methods [Re: JohnIce]
#21857925 - 06/25/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well when I used to extract LSA I always kept it in a dark place light can literally destroy it. That being said your doing a basic cold water extraction and I never liked that it always decreased potency and made me sick as a dog. The best way is to take a bunch of the seeds and grind them up and let them soak in a nonpolar solvent for 3 days (make sure its airtight and away from light that includes man made light like light bulbs.) pour out the non polar and let it dry till you cant smell the solvents then you have two options add alcohol or add water if you add alchol it will dry faster so you can let it sit in the dark by a fan and eat that (my favorite method) or you can drink the nasty water but let it soak for 3 days. But the acid in limes may break LSA down its a very fragile molecule so just be careful with it.
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I was curious if you could use a similar process as I described above for multiple batches of seeds. Like after the first batch has finished, strain out the solids and add another and so on until its strong enough to only have to take a dropper full to get a full on mid level (like 300-400 seeds) trip.
If you plan creating a potent liquid, I would suggest Hawaiian-Baby-WoodRose-Seeds. These do contain a lot more ergine/ergots, you only need one small teaspoon (less than one gram!) of HBWR-powder for full-blown effects.
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Edited by Pandemoon (06/26/15 03:13 AM)
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Re: LSA Extractions and Methods [Re: Pandemoon]
#21868480 - 06/28/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok.. I'm currently looking into the HBWR seeds. As for now. I plan to take the 7gram extraction later this week and Ill report my "findings" on potency. Honestly the most LSA I've done (morning glory seed dosage wise) would be around 3-3.5 grams. If the extraction is more potent than that then Ill have considered it a success. Oh, I do have a question though. What is a Tincture? and (another one haha) Do you think it may be possible to use HBWR seeds to create a potent enough liquid to just drop a few drops on some blotter paper or candies or something and trip? I read somewhere that 1mg of LSA is comparable to 100mcg of LSD.
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Re: LSA Extractions and Methods [Re: JohnIce]
#21869478 - 06/28/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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A tincture is a very potent liquid. You need only a few drops up to a teaspoon for full effects of whatsoever.
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JohnIce said:Do you think it may be possible to use HBWR seeds to create a potent enough liquid to just drop a few drops on some blotter paper or candies or something and trip?
No. Even if you manage to extract pure ergine powder from any kind of seed, a blotter paper cannot hold what be considered a dose I guess. You would have to take dozens of them. Or hundreds, if you have a CWE in mind to get the liquid LSA. 
And there is no way an LSA trip feels like 100mcg of LSD (or more), no matter what dose you take. There are limitations, LSA is not LSD.. It's more like the little cousin. Somehow familiar, but not really comparable.
I love it, though, LSA ist just awesome! 
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Re: LSA Extractions and Methods [Re: Pandemoon]
#21873475 - 06/29/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok... thanks for the Info.
So with that being the case with the extractions would their be a way to say do a non-polar solvent extraction on several seeds, then dissolve the remaining LSA into a,lets say ounce of water and then keep adding to it until it is good enough to mix in a drink of sorts?
and sorry about the confusion with the 100mcg thing. Just read it somewhere and had doubts.
btw... Im receiving some YOPO in a week (14 grams) and I was curious if their was a way to smoke it successfully. If anyone here knows about it I was thinking of freebasing the DMT and then attempting to smoke it as you would DMT (either heating up the bowl until you can pull smoke through a bong or mixing it with some smokable substance). Thanks for the replies. Ill be checking every so often.
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Re: LSA Extractions and Methods [Re: JohnIce]
#21873567 - 06/29/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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JohnIce said: Ok... thanks for the Info.
So with that being the case with the extractions would their be a way to say do a non-polar solvent extraction on several seeds, then dissolve the remaining LSA into a,lets say ounce of water and then keep adding to it until it is good enough to mix in a drink of sorts?
and sorry about the confusion with the 100mcg thing. Just read it somewhere and had doubts.
You're welcome.
But I don't get what you want to achieve. The easiest and fastest way to get liquid lsa would be to
- crush your dose of seeds - put them into a teabag/coffeefilter - put that into a cup - fill this cup with water - wait half an hour to an hour - put the teabag out and it's ready to drink.
Tastes like earth or dirt if you do not add some tasty fruit-tea, which should be brewed early before to cool down to roomtemp.
That's how I do it. You can make this CWE pretty strong by using HBWR-seeds, as with them you only need one gram of powder to have full effects. This 1g can easily be dissolved into half a shotglas of water if you want to.  But beware, filtering gets tricky with these small ammounts of liquid.
No real need to do this polar - nonpolar wash imho.
The YOPO -stuff needs to be discussed in another thread, pls. 
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Edited by Pandemoon (06/29/15 02:01 PM)
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