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Saaalviaaa !!!!
    #21855993 - 06/25/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow just got my salvia divinorium plant in the mail yesterday and its doing good , but a couple of the leaves where dieing so I took them off probaly about 4 or 5 leafs . So I decided to just try it out and I dried the leafs and packed a bowl . And all I can say is wow it floored me and I felt like I was on an escalator and my whole body was being pushed to the left I closed my eyes and saw a bunch of arrows moving to the left then it kinda just faded , I know it wasnt the full salvia experiance yet but men even for that light trip (still feeling it slightly) It was very good I can tell this is going to be amazing and that this plant has lots of potential woow haha I was randomly laughing too throughout it but It was very gentle and peacful probaly cause I asked and thanked the plant if I could use its leafs to see its potential . I wanna get enuf leafs to do it naturally by making a quid and chewing anyone know how many leafs is a good starting dose sublingialy ? Wow I hope this all makes sense Im still tripping a little :smile:


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: egflav]
    #21863853 - 06/27/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow I don't get anything off smoking the plain leaves, only the x extract!


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: sarahnya]
    #21864460 - 06/27/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

are you smoking it right?

I have only ever smoked the leaf and I always get blown away especially through the reverse tolerance.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21864706 - 06/27/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe that's what it is I haven't smoked much of it. I took several big drags and burned my lungs out trying to get something out of the leaves before.

The x5 is enough for me to be away in Hellraiser land though.

I always find Salvia ominous and scarey lol


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: sarahnya]
    #21864737 - 06/27/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its definitely not for everyone its very strange and intense. once i got over that i still feel a little reluctant before tripping again. holding it in for 20-30 sec is a must BUT i noticed after building a reverse tolerance i didn't even have to hold it in long at all i just took hit rapidly.

i only smoked plain leaf i think the extracts are ruining what salvia could be from what i have been reading.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Trichome_Delta9] * 1
    #21864748 - 06/27/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How much and how often do you have to smoke it for the reverse tollarence to kick in?

I've only tried it a few times but I get heavy pins and needles on it (including my mouth) which is a little unpleasant and I think that's what contributes to me having the visions of being torn apart in some weird machine.  Either that or I feel like the universe has been flipped over like the pages of a book and I'm underneath.

It's quite fascinating really.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: sarahnya]
    #21864775 - 06/27/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I haven't experienced the pins and needles, i always get really sweaty, but i have tripped with those who have had the pins and needles. i smoked plain leaf for a week straight. multiple times a day, including joints but mainly bongs, the joints didn't do much at the moment i smoked but i feel like they built up my reverse tolerance greatly.

i do not know if it ever leaves you i will be smoking again in a couple weeks to find that out. from what i have read people don't use it often like i did but exp. the reverse tolerance.

first bowl i smoked was a full bowl then i started just smoking 3 qtrs, half a bowl. by my last trip i only sprinkled it on my weed in my bong.

every trip is different-ish and salvia doesn't cease to amaze me with what it can do.
i experienced the pages of reality a few times as well as lady salvias presence.

such an interesting substance!


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21866137 - 06/27/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should fill a bowl, take huge hits and hold them as long as you can. It will suck for the first hit, but salvia is a dissociative, so the pain from the following hits is dulled.

So you smoke that whole bowl, then wait till you come back to baseline. Once you're back to normal, pack the bowl again and follow the same procedure. The reverse tolerance will kick in so you can keep repeating this procedure until you reach a breakthrough experience. Once you get there, there's nothing stopping you from packing another bowl. Eventually a tiny hit will cause you to blast off.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: healing]
    #21866150 - 06/27/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I absolutely hate salvia. Makes you feel like you're falling backwards and just makes you super confused


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21866188 - 06/27/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nah. You need to smoke more before you can understand the awesomeness of being made of play-doh and lego in super mario world.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: healing]
    #21866494 - 06/27/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

salvia is very under rated and misunderstood.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21866579 - 06/27/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Reminds me I need to stock up on  salvia. Here in the UK there is going to be a blanket ban on all legal highs by our stupid government :frown:


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: sarahnya]
    #21866645 - 06/27/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia is the worst drug I've ever had. Wouldn't touch it again, ever. Would be entertaining to watch somebody else smoke it though. It's kinda like a mean practical joke.

I think the DEA took a good look at salvia and decided it was better to leave it legal - as a fuck you to drug culture, or to scare people away from the 'real' psychedelics. You like drugs? Here, try this one that makes you retarded, let's see how you like that, stupid potheads.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: drr]
    #21866659 - 06/27/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol drr that's really funny.

Salvia is a freaky trip but it still fascinates me.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: sarahnya]
    #21866890 - 06/28/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

drr just because you don't like it doesn't mean others don't.

salvia is not for everyone for sure honestly i will go far enough to say its much stronger than shrooms. just because you cant handle it doesn't mean its not an interesting psychedelic.

there is a intense feeling of a joke being played on you sometimes and its hilarious to experience if you can handle it.

also the FDA decides whats legal to consume the DEA just enforce laws set by the system.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21867032 - 06/28/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Most people I've talked to don't like it. The general consensus is that it's scary and feels awful. If you enjoy it though, go for it. I've taken LSD and mushrooms and psilacetin and mescaline and 2c-b and smoked DMT among many other things, and you know what, I agree, salvia IS like a big joke being played on you :lol:

I'm not going to pretend to know anything about the legal system, but are you sure that the FDA decides what goes on the controlled substances list?


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: drr]
    #21867075 - 06/28/15 02:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Salvia is the worst drug I've ever had. Wouldn't touch it again, ever. Would be entertaining to watch somebody else smoke it though. It's kinda like a mean practical joke.

I think the DEA took a good look at salvia and decided it was better to leave it legal - as a fuck you to drug culture, or to scare people away from the 'real' psychedelics. You like drugs? Here, try this one that makes you retarded, let's see how you like that, stupid potheads.



:rofl2: so true. Compared to LSD or mushrooms it just doesn't comapre IMO


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21868023 - 06/28/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

salvia is a lot more intense and when not smoked to receive the most intense experience its very nice and enhances weed.

most people who share it usually are playing cruel jokes on people and not letting them know what the trip will be like.

I have done shrooms a good amount of times, and its different from salvia but they are both psychedelic even though people say salvia has dissociative effects.

the effects from salvia are very interesting when you feel used to it. the female energy is when i first felt the joke being played and all i could do was laugh very strange-like.

they really cant be compared but the way people fear salvia im sure i could handle most the psyches i have yet to try. i think salvia is very misused and misunderstood.

personally mixed with cannabis it feels like they are sisters or really close energies and they played very well together.

i blame extracts for the reason people don't like it. what do you think shrooms 5x and lsd 5x would be like you first time using salvia?


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Trichome_Delta9] * 1
    #21868122 - 06/28/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Must be about ten years ago now.. I read about Salvia on the web and ordered some. It came in the mail a couple days later, at around 2pm. I was eager to try it out, but I also had to walk down to the school at 2:45 to get my son (in the 3rd grade).

It looked like a bag of homegrown weed - all green and leafy. I crackled some up and stuffed a bowl and took a couple big hits. It hit me hard - Things started breathing, I felt like I was getting sucked through a tunnel both backwards and frontwards at the same time. My head became very cloudy and a voice in side was saying "this sucks". I sat on the sofa with ten minutes to spare before getting him, wishing I hadn't done it. I walked down to the school feeling weird but in control. Got him, walked back, I returned to my man cave and looked at the bag of Salvia and thought - nah, I don't like this. Nowhere near what I'm looking for in psychedelics. I may have tried it one or two times more before giving the whole bag to a friend, a trumpet player from a band I was in. About 3 years later I ran into him at a gig and I asked him how he liked it and he had NO memory of me giving it to him. Odd..

That's my salvia story, I don't see myself ever trying it again.


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Re: Saaalviaaa !!!! [Re: Universe]
    #21868762 - 06/28/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its something that you either like it or not. its very psychedelic once you get used to it and the rules are very important with this substance. set and setting are VERY important. I can see how having something important to do after you use it can cause someone to want it to be over. i have had many visual experiences with salvia and some experiences some would say is a "bad" trip but i can handle things quite well so i find salvia interesting. its not for people who just want to feel good what so ever but it does have the characteristics of a psychedelic. i used it countless times in a 5 day range so i think i have a good idea on the affects and i believe the extracts are a bad idea for ANYONE the plain leaf works well enough alone. it does mess with the memory but i don't see how someone could forget using it if they used it multiple times. he probably gave it away and didn't use it much. i don't see my self forgetting the experiences ive had at least the more profound experiences.

i wish Redgreenvines was still on this site.... he knows ALOT about salvia


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