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InvisibleTheLoopIs

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contam or stressed out myc?
    #21855473 - 06/25/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

These cakes have been in the FC for a week and 1 day, no fruits. Im worried that white fluff could be a contam?what do u think? is that the myc just stressing out? humidity is 92 temp is 72





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Re: contam or stressed out myc? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #21855609 - 06/25/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:randy2: did you dunk and roll? I see no verm at all. You should think about at least sprinkling verm over the surface.

They look fluffy and dry.. they should be shimmering wet with no pooling water all the time. Add an inch or 2 of perlite, rake the perlite to make it more airy, make sure bottom holes are not clogged with perlite, and amp up your misting. Make sure you're directly misting the cakes and perlite. Misting the walls won't hydrate anything.

Also don't rely on a hygrometer. It may say it's 92%, but they're still dry. I always trust using my eyes over what the hygrometer says. You wouldn't find one in any good growers chamber.


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Re: contam or stressed out myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21856326 - 06/25/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow ur information was seriously mind altering. Especially the part on how a cake should always look and to trust your eyes on this more then any device. whathank u. I do have some questions about wha you said though!
1) I dunk both and rolled 1 (to experiment if what they say about rolling is true) I rolled with pretty coarse vermiculite, do use fine verm for this? because my verm never sticks even after a night of a wet soggy bath .
2)what do you mean by rake?
3) my holes at bottom are clogged, I can't seem to prevent this? PLUS perlite always falls through my holes at bottom, does that mean holes in my FC are not small enough?
4) Im scared about misting the cakes a lot of people say not to.  u mist them the whole fruiting stage or stop when you see pins?


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Re: contam or stressed out myc? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #21856380 - 06/25/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1) fine verm is much better, but coarse verm should work. Just not as well. Even just sprinkling the tops of the cakes with verm is better than nothing.

2) Take a hand rake/garden rake and use it to stir and mix the perlite. You want the perlite to be really airy. Make the surface of the perlite level without packing it AT ALL. The more fluff it has to it, the better. A hand rake is this: https://www.google.ca/search?q=hand+rake&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=M5aMVcjmIsWogwS9obj4Ag&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=360&bih=640

3)that's normal. This is why people elevate the fc over a towel, for any drips as well as perlite. If it's a problem for you, do what the pros do and lay a window screen on the bottom before putting perlite over it. The window screen is MUCH better imo. If not, just take a pen and poke the bottom holes fairly often.

4) I've never once had misting cause aborts. Aborts happen, but it's almost always because the substrate can't sustain the flush. If you get everything aborted, it wasn't from misting. That I can guarantee. It was an environmental or hydration problem.


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Re: contam or stressed out myc? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21857459 - 06/25/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I seriously feel so thankful that you guys passed down this knowledge to me I could not find anywhere else. Thank you thank you thank you you guys helped so much!!!!


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Re: contam or stressed out myc? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #21857473 - 06/25/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

akward ur the same "guys" haha:P


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Re: contam or stressed out myc? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #21857487 - 06/25/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"do what the pros do and lay a window screen on the bottom before putting perlite over it. The window screen is MUCH better imo."
Do u mean to say pros don't use a fruition chamber?just window screen, perlite and cakes on top?


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Re: contam or stressed out myc? [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #21857524 - 06/25/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No no haha. They put a window screen down over the bottom holes before putting perlite into a shotgun fruiting chamber. That way it'll keep the holes unclogged and stop the perlite from falling out


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