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There can't be nothing!
    #21855382 - 06/25/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just sayin... :shrug:


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855416 - 06/25/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There could be.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855470 - 06/25/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

We will presumably 'nothing' when dead.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855516 - 06/25/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its pretty hard to believe in nothing if you take enough psychs.

I was raised religious though.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Sun King]
    #21855575 - 06/25/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sun King said:
There could be.




Describe said nothingness.

:gonnaneedmyglasses:


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855611 - 06/25/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Das Nichts nichtet


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Kurt]
    #21855624 - 06/25/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Negating nothing gets something. :elmo:

Next up: trying to catch the wind.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855625 - 06/25/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When a cup is empty, there is nothing in it.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855645 - 06/25/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Is this going to be on the test?


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855649 - 06/25/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Negating nothing gets something. :elmo:

Next up: trying to catch the wind.




Who is negating? The words would be translated to english as "the nothing nothings"

"“But what is remarkable is that precisely in the way scientific man secures to himself what is most properly his, he speaks of something different. What should be examined are beings only, and besides that - nothing; beings alone, and further - nothing; solely beings, and beyond that - nothing. What about this nothing? How is it with the nothing?”


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Sun King]
    #21855682 - 06/25/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sun King said:
When a cup is empty, there is nothing in it.






Stay thirsty, my friends.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21855981 - 06/25/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nothing is FREE in life with this coupon!

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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Khancious]
    #21856111 - 06/25/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

To be means.to.exist.there can't.be nothing because it's something,.. duhhh


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #21856385 - 06/25/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Sun King]
    #21856388 - 06/25/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sun King said:
When a cup is empty, there is nothing in it.



Actually there are various gases (air) inside the cup when 'nothing' is in it. Dumbass


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21856392 - 06/25/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you stop breathing and stay still, are you doing 'nothing'?


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21856442 - 06/25/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MajickMuffin said:
Quote:

Sun King said:
When a cup is empty, there is nothing in it.



Actually there are various gases (air) inside the cup when 'nothing' is in it. Dumbass




If there is air in it, then it isn't empty. :braindamage:


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Sun King]
    #21856516 - 06/25/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sun King said:
Quote:

MajickMuffin said:
Quote:

Sun King said:
When a cup is empty, there is nothing in it.



Actually there are various gases (air) inside the cup when 'nothing' is in it. Dumbass




If there is air in it, then it isn't empty. :braindamage:



A cup cannot be empty. :goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21856520 - 06/25/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, it can.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Sun King]
    #21856523 - 06/25/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sun King said:
Yes, it can.



Prove it


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Sun King]
    #21856524 - 06/25/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If we suppose there can be absolute nothing, then that nothing is itself something. This is what you're going to get if you go all the way with the question. Furthermore you'll hit the edge of the linguistic structure, this is a paradox of entities in language. You can't get a clear answer because the notion of absolute nothing presupposes you, the observer, in acknowledging it as being such a thing.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Amidst Eridanus]
    #21856624 - 06/25/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

OC, i completely agree with you and have been saying this for a year now.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Amidst Eridanus]
    #21856631 - 06/25/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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If we suppose there can be absolute nothing, then that nothing is itself something. This is what you're going to get if you go all the way with the question. Furthermore you'll hit the edge of the linguistic structure, this is a paradox of entities in language. You can't get a clear answer because the notion of absolute nothing presupposes you, the observer, in acknowledging it as being such a thing.




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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21856651 - 06/25/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MajickMuffin said:
Quote:

Sun King said:
Yes, it can.



Prove it




I already did.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21856662 - 06/25/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It seems I have nothing to post.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Sun King]
    #21856666 - 06/25/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sun King said:
Quote:

MajickMuffin said:
Quote:

Sun King said:
Yes, it can.



Prove it




I already did.



You proved yourself wrong to anyone who can understand simple logic/who will read what we just said before back and forth. :smile:


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21856853 - 06/25/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Me speculating out loud, hopefully something about it makes sense:


Upon pondering the nihilistic ponder, which we all do from time to time, it becomes obvious that consciousness is essentially the basis for everything. This point is explained here:

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"Well, yeah it depends what you mean by consciousness, I think, what I mean by consciousness; consciousness is the one thing in this universe that can't be an illusion. Consciousness is the fact of experience, the fact that something is happening, the fact that the lights are on in some basic sense, even if we don't understand anything. So even if I'm a brain in a vat, what I'm calling consciousness is still a manifest fact of reality, and is the basis for every other fact that I would experience, or adduce or otherwise bring into the conversation, so I think consciousness can't be an illusion."

- Sam Harris




So I suppose that one could argue, wherever there is a conception of a thing, or awareness of a thing, then there is something. Sun King argued that when a cup is empty, there is nothing in it. By thinking about what is in the cup, however, we fill the cup with consciousness. Merely thinking about 'nothing' is to fill ones consciousness with an idea, an awareness, a subject (the subject of 'nothing'). Thinking about nothing, therefore, turns 'nothing' into a subject (a thing). Therefore actual 'nothingness' cannot be conceived of.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: secondorder]
    #21857327 - 06/25/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Precisely.


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Re: There can't be nothing! [Re: Khancious]
    #21857435 - 06/25/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Khancious said:
Nothing is FREE in life with this coupon!

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This guy understands things.


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