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Anonymous #1

Is this withdrawal or something else?
    #21855258 - 06/25/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My friend watched this video in which a guy, a drug user, quit using so much. He was still on opiates but it wasn't enough and he started smoking dank weed over it (previously had a habit of 10gdaily). When he smoked just one in the evening, it produced reverse effect of trembling, sweating cold, feeling uneasy and strung out. Once he took couple grams kratom and felt good, he could smoke all the time and felt even better. A high lasts him around 5-10 minutes of dizziness (tolerance). When he parties heavy, the above mentioned is very little in comparison.

What could the effects of smoking just one or two be? Withdrawal symptoms because the quantity is too small? A sign that he is physically weak? Or something else

Thanks


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Anonymous #2

Re: Is this withdrawal or something else? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21858129 - 06/26/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I tried really hard, but I failed to understand your question or what you were trying to get across.

Sorry man, quit using opiates, kratom and weed can be a great tool to ween you off. Kratom is physically addictive to, but not nearly as bad as traditonal opiates.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Is this withdrawal or something else? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #21859199 - 06/26/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Anonymous #2 said:
I tried really hard, but I failed to understand your question or what you were trying to get across.





If he's talking about smoking weed while in opiate withdrawl, that won't cause you to go into withdrawl. You only start withdrawl when you haven't taken an opiate in a while.

In my experience, weed helped with the withdrawl a lot. It helped take my mind off of the fact that i felt so shitty.

It didn't do very much to lessen the actual symptoms, but it made it so that i didn't care so much about them


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Anonymous #1

Re: Is this withdrawal or something else? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #21860628 - 06/26/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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smoking weed while in opiate withdrawl




Maybe he forgot his dose because he was puffing a joint and had the illusion it'll do.

I was thinking, is it possible a small quantity (a joint, two)over the regular/maintenance dose triggered a bottomless pit? Similarly when people drink alcohol and have a drink or two and it's okay but there's a line if they cross it, leads to a heavy binge? Setting off a crave for not simply feeling okay but getting wasted to a desired point?


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Anonymous #3

Re: Is this withdrawal or something else? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #21860765 - 06/26/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like weed effects you a lot differently than me. For some people it can really increase your stress and anxiety if you smoke it in withdrawl.

If you smoke while just maintaining, it can have the same effect; increased anxiety, stress, and paranoia. Most opiate addicts i know quit smoking weed as soon as they started the opiates for this reason.

I think the problem with smoking while on that stuff is that it makes you think about your life. You know you need to quit opiates. You know they are taking control of your life. You know it is sucking the life out of you, leaving you cold and souless.

Most people who do opiates rarely smoke weed if at all. It makes you realize that you have a demon on your back, sucking the life out of you and controlling your life.

Real Talk.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Is this withdrawal or something else? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #21860902 - 06/26/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting insight, thanks!

Well it's dope weed so the idea was thc innit is extra, forgot to take it in account. It could be that the spiritual component of thc is causing the philosophical aspect of smoking, which includes paranoid thoughts over the self-destructive habit.

I have the feeling that maintaining is the closest thing to normal sobriety this person has ever experienced, and he normally just goes about the day. Anything extra remembers him of some of the times he had absolutely no problem taking in just about anything.

Opiates are difficult indeed. Today he also smoked some weed, sometime after his first maintenance dose, and it did him good (early in the morning - still fresh), so he went for a refill in the afternoon. He experienced a clarity moment where he felt exactly like in his teens, during some of the very few days sober. He realized this is how sobriety without withdrawal must feel and it was wonderful. He is probably going to detox soon and this gave him an idea of what life after could be.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Is this withdrawal or something else? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #21972949 - 07/20/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
Sounds like weed effects you a lot differently than me. For some people it can really increase your stress and anxiety if you smoke it in withdrawl.

If you smoke while just maintaining, it can have the same effect; increased anxiety, stress, and paranoia. Most opiate addicts i know quit smoking weed as soon as they started the opiates for this reason.

I think the problem with smoking while on that stuff is that it makes you think about your life. You know you need to quit opiates. You know they are taking control of your life. You know it is sucking the life out of you, leaving you cold and souless.

Most people who do opiates rarely smoke weed if at all. It makes you realize that you have a demon on your back, sucking the life out of you and controlling your life.

Real Talk.



i got into opiates a bit the last couple of months and quit smoking pot for a while, it just isn't a good combo for me either


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