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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21980949 - 07/22/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its best to concentrate your tea on a stovetop on low-med heat with LOTS of supervision during the entire reducing boil.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21981056 - 07/22/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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One other thing. For the next brew I'm going to use a 12 inch sp cutting but would also like to use some dried p torch chips , how much do you think I should use per person to strengthen the tea.

From what I've read 25 to 30 seems like a reasonable dose, shall I go for about 50g dried between us as I don't expect the pedro on its own to do much at all between 2 people.




The more the better in my opinion.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: BigHeart]
    #21983562 - 07/23/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Okays I got my powder so I figured let's have a go at making a little tea from powder.

I've read lots of posts arguing about if tea can be made ot not so it should be interesting.  I think from what I've read a lot of people are making the mistake of reducing it before trying to strain the powder, this is impossible as it turns to snotty cactus gunk and won't go through the holes. 

It appears the trick is to add a bunch of water again, then strain immediately while it's still watery and then just evaporate your liquid again while doing another cook on the powder.

Has anyone had much luck with this?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya] * 1
    #21993500 - 07/25/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Update on making cactus tea with powder:

Well after failing to effectively strain the gloopy powder mixture with a t shirt I threw it all back in the slow cooker on low and left it cooking all day with the lid on so it didn't evaporate.  When I got home I turned it off and left it for an hour or so, most of the snotty gunk with powder sank to the bottom and I was able to decant the liquid off the top, which I then easily filtered with a t shirt and I'm now left with some nice translucent green tea.

I'm now reducing it on the hob on the lowest setting whilst the cooker does the last pull on the material, fresh water and lemon added.

I don't think I'll be able to use my dehydrator to dry it though because the trays are shallow and there's like a central column on it so I can't even fit a small plate in it.

I think it's worth noting the mucus layer seems to be breaking down, there doesn't seem as much of it but this could just be that a little being lost with all the straining etc.  I just hope I'm not loosing too much of the goodies or that they are trapped in the gloop at the bottom


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21994315 - 07/25/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds perfect to me. Nice work :thumbup:


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21994717 - 07/25/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Note that any mescaline salt has a much higher atomic weight than water. So, some of the actives (not in solution) likely did sink to the bottom when you let it separate.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: 4HO-DMT] * 1
    #21995031 - 07/25/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I did filter everything through the t shirt on the last pull, it was a lot easier as the mucus had completely broken down. I had used a brand new shirt so the fibres weren't so stretched.

Fingers crossed it works !


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22004421 - 07/27/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nearly dehydrated my tea now. I managed to fit one plate in my dehydrator.

Just wondered what the safe temperature was to dehydrate it at, I've got it on 35c at the moment but it's taking its sweet time.

Also, this tea (made from pedro powder)is waaaaay more bitter than the last lot I made with fresh bridgesii, is there any truth to the bitterness being a guide to how strong it is?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22004439 - 07/27/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would say in personal experience that bitterness coorelates to more potent tea.

But bittness doesnt Not equal potent tea. Just that theres definitely a relationship.

For example, non-bitter tea is either diluted  or weak.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22004443 - 07/27/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh it's also not becoming thicker as I reduce it, is that a bad sign?  The mucus appears to have completely broken down, is this normal?

I'll be trying this Sunday or Monday next week btw if the weather is decent.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22004448 - 07/27/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I would say in personal experience that bitterness coorelates to more potent tea.

But bittness doesnt Not equal potent tea. Just that theres definitely a relationship.

For example, non-bitter tea is either diluted  or weak.




Cheers, this is definitely more concentrated so it could be that.  It doesn't smell or taste of puke this time though!


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22004468 - 07/27/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Since u started with dry powder, theres going to be ver little slime in the tea.

Fresh cuttings always have more slime, but even after concentrating them, my teas in the past only get so thick, maybe the consistency of  watered-down Karo surup.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22004502 - 07/27/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hi sarahnya can you just please remind me, how much cactus powder did you use?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22004574 - 07/27/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22013320 - 07/29/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There, my tea is all dried up thanks to the dehydrator which I set to 35c.  I'm going to scrape it up and put in gel caps tonight. Will I need to freeze them to stop decomposition btw ?



Does this look good?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22013694 - 07/29/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ive never dehydrated my tea this much before. Looks like tar now.

Good luck with that, im sure its plently active.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #22013850 - 07/29/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I had to make it into tar to put in capsules, my friend will not, under any circumstances drink the tea lol

I'm not bothered myself, as long as it's not more than a mug full I'll get it down!


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22015177 - 07/29/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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There, my tea is all dried up thanks to the dehydrator which I set to 35c.  I'm going to scrape it up and put in gel caps tonight. Will I need to freeze them to stop decomposition btw ?



Does this look good?




Have you scraped it yet? How did the scraping go?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22015838 - 07/29/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You KNEW this was gonna be a bitch lol

It was a bloody nightmare, the stuff had dried as hard as rock, I had to moisten it to roll it in to balls and it was a sticky nightmare.  I've told my mate she's drinking tea next time.

Still, persistence won I managed to roll them into pills using a little flour and froze them, never again though.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #22015865 - 07/29/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think i stick with cacti teas :lol:

The most i can drink thou is 1 full cup. After that, im tapped out, so sick, cant continue.


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