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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21917883 - 07/09/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just another method I read, has anyone tried it.
Using cactus powder, put it in a jar, cover it in Bacardi 151, give it a shake as often as possible over 2 to 3 days until water goes dark and murky. Pull off the alcohol and put it in a wide dish to evaporate. Then add some flour to the tar thats left,for capsule sized bites and swallow.
I will be trying tea first but these other methods sound fun to try also. I want a happy medium so I get the full experience.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21917886 - 07/09/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sarahnya said: Perfect thanks people!
Anymore favourite ways to prepare? Or even any fails and things to avoid?
To be honest, my favorite wa7y to prepare is alcohol extraction and I don't think I will ever be able to cease this affair...
Do the tea tek first, see how messy and time consuming it is. Then get some of that powder I recommended to you in PM and try alcohol tar extraction tek. You will love it. Once it is done, all you have to do is swallow a few pill-shaped tar blobs.
I think this spulds like the method I just read about,does it get all the alkaloids,not just mescaline?
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21917904 - 07/09/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know if it gets all alkaloids or just mescaline. I would need a lab to be able to tell. But the final product does what it should 
I don't know about Bacardi 151. I used some imported 95% food-safe grain ethanol (used for making spirits etc) and now I'm using a much cheaper 99% Isopropanol from *bay.
One thing you missed in the bacardi method is that these steps must be repeated multiple times. I would say 5 times or more, to make sure that there is nothing left. Then combine all extracted liquid and evaporate.
Last time I evapped in the oven and it worked brilliantly.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21917907 - 07/09/15 02:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, once all alcohol is evapped you can dissolve the tar with small amount of hot water and drink a deadly shot. The taste will wake you up. It will taste like cacti tea x100 lovely...
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21917918 - 07/09/15 03:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome, I looked it up and I think the tar is full spectrum by the sounds of it so should give an authentic experience.
I will definitely try it after because it's so goddamn easy compared to boiling and straining all day.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21917933 - 07/09/15 03:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sarahnya said: Awesome, I looked it up and I think the tar is full spectrum by the sounds of it so should give an authentic experience.
I will definitely try it after because it's so goddamn easy compared to boiling and straining all day.
Tea method is great for first time, you get a FULL spectrum experience by having to drink the liquid eating tar pills could be considered as cheating. South American shamans would not accept this
What I liked about my tar trips was that the trip was stretched out in time. I ate the tar in two portions 2 hours apart. It took long for it to digest and the coming up was long and enjoyable.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21918151 - 07/09/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did you find much difference in the overall experience of eating tar compared to tea?
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21919158 - 07/09/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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sarahnya said: Did you find much difference in the overall experience of eating tar compared to tea?
My tea trips were very weak and I used to smoke weed back then so I cannot compare these two.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21920891 - 07/09/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr. Delban said: ...Last time I evapped in the oven and it worked brilliantly.
I would not recommend this. Maybe if you have an electric oven, but if it gas and has a pilot light, then you are asking for an oven bomb. I would suggest evaporating without heat because of the alcohol vapor.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21921734 - 07/09/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of course it was in an electric oven. But yes I can imagine there are people who would do it in has oven and cause explosion
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21922382 - 07/09/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Electric here.
From the posts I've read it does sound that the experience is the same as the tea, more dreamy and euphoric. It's hard to be sure though as people have to have used the same cactus,similar dosage to be a fair test but I think it gives you an idea.
Also one other thing that was brought up in several posts was that using 70% alcohol appears to extract more alkaloids in total as some are more soluable in water? Only thing is,it leaves a more sticky tar which takes a long time to evap due to water content.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21923931 - 07/10/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can use 70% alcohol and see how it works. I have come across the same info. I'd be curious to see if cacti powder would swell up much when soaked in 70% alcohol. It doesn't expand at all during 95% and 99% extractions.
I don't think you should be worried about the difference between tar and tea at this stage, since this is going to be your first cacti trip (?)
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21923945 - 07/10/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I always always obsess, the tar sounds nicer to swallow and if it's the same experience as tea that would be awesome.
How much powder generally gives a decent trip, I was thinking about 50 G of torch?
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21923982 - 07/10/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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For the alcohol tek? My first trip was of 50g, but last time I did 100g and it was OK. I believe I haven't extracted it fully as the last pull was still quite green. So I carried on extracting after the trip and now I have combined this with new extraction of 90g.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
#21929001 - 07/11/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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100g sounds a lot, was it pedro or torch?
I just found a UK seller selling pedro and bridgesii really cheap, only babies but i ordered some so I have a collection of lines.
Also, general question here but does blending make a large difference to the teas potency? Just wondering if purchasing a blender was actually worth it.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21941824 - 07/14/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just received my cactus cuttings today, they are just over 30 cm and some are already rooting. I don't know if I have the heart to chop them up. Might just plant this batch and eat the next one I order... I actually ordered a pack of mixed cuttings, 1 bridgesii, 1 p torch and a San pedro plus 2 more bridgesii.
Do you think I'd actually trip if I tried 30cmmx 2.5" bridgesii?
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21942904 - 07/14/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you would trip.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#21943287 - 07/14/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think, being the impatient person I am. I'm going to make a brew with a bridgesii and San pedro cutting mixed together and split it with my friend when she comes to visit.
I'll order more cuttings every month so I have lots growing.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
#21943750 - 07/14/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't read the whole thread
But just so you know, sarahnya, you can make tar without using rubbing alcohol. You can just make tea, filter, and evaporate carefully, finishing it off in a pyrex baking dish sitting in a shallow pan with an inch of lightly boiling water. You don't have to worry about starting a fire with the evaporating alcohol. You can let it go like this until it gets thick concentrated, you just have to watch it carefully so it doesn't burn, keep the heat low and go slow. Be sure the water underneath doesn't boil dry and also isn't so high that it's splashing into your pyrex dish. I just bring the bong into the kitchen and take rips and watch it for a while , adding a half cup of hot water to the boiler here and there as it gets low. I've done it many times and it works great. Just a thought if you don't want to deal with the alcohol. Either way is fine I'm sure. Good luck! 
also I'm not sure an electric oven would be any safer for evaporating alcohol? If you're evaporating alcohol, use a fan, or at most an electric hotplate. When it gets pretty thick most of the alcohol will be evaporated anyway, and it will probably be safe to do a double boiler on the stove as I mentioned above to finish evaporating.
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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: drr]
#21944899 - 07/15/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks that's definitely something to try at some point!
Now for another question. To use the core or not? I've again found conflicting information, some say it enhances the trip while others say it contains little actives and just makes the nausea worse. Can people tell me their personal experience?
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