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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #21897144 - 07/04/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lovely, I'm not planning on dragging it out too long.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21903484 - 07/05/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just been reading several recipes for preparing and come across some which dont involve boiling.

Would something like the following work,has anyone tried something similar?

First despine and skin the cactus,chop into small pieces then freeze.

Defrost,add some water and lemon juice sparringly then grind or crush with a potato masher.  Filter then add more water and lemon and repeat 3 times collecting the juice and drink straight.

Some also suggested consuming the pulp after.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21903536 - 07/05/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Alternately, I could do pretty much the same thing but add more water and boil on a low heat to reduce it a little.

Its just various comments said that its less snotty when it hasnt been heated but it means drinking more fluid.  So i guess lesser of two evils really lol


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21904006 - 07/06/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

can you add things to make it taste better before consumption?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: meretricious]
    #21904269 - 07/06/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

God knows, I think from what what I've read lemon juice helps a little but it still taste blargh.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21908069 - 07/07/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just wondered if maybe eating 6" pedro 6"bridgesii might be more potent because of the maoi in the bridgesii?

Also does bridgesii give a different kind of trip on its own?  Just wondered because mushrooms combined with a maoi were quite different.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21908083 - 07/07/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think for my first attempt I'm going to do the following :

Prepare and finely chop the cactus,freeze overnight, defrost and then soak it a enough water just to cover with some lemon juice for several hours.  Then ill strain it off, drink the juice before putting the solids back in the pan with more water and lemon.

Then ill gently simmer it for a couple of hours and mash it with a potato masher,drain it again and consume the juice.  If im not too sick at this point ill try to eat some of the dark solids.

How does this sound?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21908308 - 07/07/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think for my first attempt I'm going to do the following :

Prepare and finely chop the cactus,freeze overnight, defrost and then soak it a enough water just to cover with some lemon juice for several hours.  Then ill strain it off, drink the juice before putting the solids back in the pan with more water and lemon.

Then ill gently simmer it for a couple of hours and mash it with a potato masher,drain it again and consume the juice.  If im not too sick at this point ill try to eat some of the dark solids.

How does this sound?




No, this isn't how you should do it. Drink everything in one session.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #21908580 - 07/07/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I just thought it might be worth doing so I get some raw alkaloids and some cooked.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21909157 - 07/07/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You can do this. But complete the boiling and all preparations before drinking the first portion (raw) so that you can relax and focus on the experience, instead of cooking the rest of cacti. Cooking is a timely procedure. You don't want to do this whilst coming-up.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #21909758 - 07/07/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks mucho sensible, I might be feeling a but queasy while trying to cook...

Will set aside the fluid and cook the tea beforehand so I can store both in the fridge and take th first thing in the morning.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21910588 - 07/07/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Honestly, I would recommend following one of the many tried and true teks out on the web. Experiment with different methods after you have mastered a tea extraction. At least that way you are guaranteed to get the desired effects. A one foot bridgesii cutting should do the trick. Don't make this more complicated than it needs to be. :peace:


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    #21912260 - 07/07/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's just everyone seems to be arguing about what actually works.  I've seen a lot which just say, freeze, blend and chug. These have been really positive but I would have thought that be really tough on the stomach so was trying to mix it up. 

Best of both worlds I guess.

Can I freeze the tea for consumption later btw, it's just I work a lot so could prepare it in advance for when I have two days off so I get a full recovery day after.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21912296 - 07/07/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Would be helpful to hear which methods people have tried and which worked best for them.

I am taking note that bridgesii seems more reliable but as I've read the feel of the trip is a little different I'd like to explore a San Pedro one first.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21912788 - 07/08/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thee best method that works for me in the past is:

Despine
Peal the waxy layer
Cut the cacti into stars
Cut out the center core of each star.
Throw away cores, keep dark and light green fleshy layers.
Cut the flesh stars into little bits and pieces
Put all the pieces into a pot with clean filtered water,
Gently Boil/simmer for 5-6 hours, mix regularly (every 15min or so) and watch it carefully, add water if water line is too low.
After boiling, strain juice/pieces mixture thru a clean white t-shirt and capture in a big clean pot.
Squeeeze the ball with all your strenght to get all the tea out. throw away t shirt ball
Drink liquid if its still warm, or reheat on stove before you dose (tea taste better when its warm).


done.

Dont forget to chase the tea with strong tasting foods like potato chips and/or fresh  fruit as a chaser.

Thats it.

Its a long process but worth it.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21914422 - 07/08/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Last time I tripped on cacti tar I had plenty of freshly squeezed juices which I made myself in the morning. I kept fasting all the way till the end of the trip. I kept drinking those juices which kept me going strong without food.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21914427 - 07/08/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's just everyone seems to be arguing about what actually works.  I've seen a lot which just say, freeze, blend and chug. These have been really positive but I would have thought that be really tough on the stomach so was trying to mix it up. 

Best of both worlds I guess.

Can I freeze the tea for consumption later btw, it's just I work a lot so could prepare it in advance for when I have two days off so I get a full recovery day after.




Freezing works great, I've done that . In fact, this is the best way of storing cacti tea or tar.


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #21915050 - 07/08/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Perfect thanks people!

Anymore favourite ways to prepare?  Or even any fails and things to avoid?


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Re: Cactus Tea Preparation and Varieties [Re: sarahnya]
    #21915481 - 07/08/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Perfect thanks people!

Anymore favourite ways to prepare?  Or even any fails and things to avoid?




To be honest, my favorite wa7y to prepare is alcohol extraction and I don't think I will ever be able to cease this affair...

Do the tea tek first, see how messy and time consuming it is. Then get some of that powder I recommended to you in PM and try alcohol tar extraction tek. You will love it.
Once it is done, all you have to do is swallow a few pill-shaped tar blobs.


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    #21917770 - 07/09/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I will do, it will be interesting to compare the experience.


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