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200 - 400 LSD First Time
    #21854867 - 06/25/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I will be trying LSD for the first time in a couple weeks. In my drug history I've used weed, shrooms, and NBome. I'll have two tabs said to be dosed at 200ug. Should I take both at once or one, and then dose the second later? Split in half? I've read a lot already, but answers seem to be mixed. I'm not worried about freaking out, I'll have an experienced user with me, and some benzos to keep me calm just in case. I'm just curious as for the experience, I've read that above 350+ is usually when things are more serious and ego death, along wit almost not being able to really even see or think/perform basic functions because you'll just be flooded with visuals/feelings. I'm probably going to go in a music phase for the most part, and then watch some cartoons, etc. At what dose should I expect to still be able to at least change songs/be able to work the remote. So, what's the best dose?


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: MentalWarfare]
    #21854887 - 06/25/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

350ug won't ego death you. You'll be fine brah just eat both of them


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21854927 - 06/25/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have always found that when someone tells you how much is in each tab, to divide that roughly in half. That is probably closer to the actual dosage. Of course you never know unless you laid it. That being said, you could easily take both and have a great time. I have taken wayyy more than that and still have a blast. LSD is very forgiving that way.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Ncogneato] * 1
    #21854933 - 06/25/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take both. Then get another one. That is if you are looking for something really intense.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21854938 - 06/25/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Take both. Then get another one. That is if you are looking for something really intense.




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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21855077 - 06/25/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Alright, thanks for the replies guys I appreciate it. I'll probably have a trip report when I'm done.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: MentalWarfare]
    #21855327 - 06/25/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take one, make sure its not bitter, then proceed as you wish.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21856282 - 06/25/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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350ug won't ego death you. You'll be fine brah just eat both of them




I would strongly disagree

Haven taken 300ug (lab tested doses) myself, I will say you can definitely get ego death during the peak of the trip. You just start to melt into the universe and you don't remember any of it afterwards



OP - my first trip ever was 230ug of LSD and I had no issues. It was absolutely magical


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21856928 - 06/25/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, for real. The fuck are the other folks talking about in this thread? 300 mics is an extremely strong dose, easily enough to dissolve into light. Not even close to a dose to take lightly. As others have said though, the advertised dose is bullshit. Regardless, take one & see how it goes. Can always take more another time.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: MentalWarfare]
    #21856937 - 06/25/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd go for one now and one later. Two trips is better than one. and at 200ug it'll be a nice level 3 both times just wait a while in between.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21856961 - 06/25/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, for real. The fuck are the other folks talking about in this thread? 300 mics is an extremely strong dose, easily enough to dissolve into light. Not even close to a dose to take lightly. As others have said though, the advertised dose is bullshit. Regardless, take one & see how it goes. Can always take more another time.




Yeah. You can always take more, but never less. It would suck to have a way too intense of a trip for your first time and be turned off from it forever


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21883120 - 07/01/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Alright then, sorry for the late reply but thanks for the clarification guys.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: MentalWarfare]
    #21883182 - 07/01/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

def wouldnt recommend taking both


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Sheekle]
    #21883191 - 07/01/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ive taken acid like over a hundred times and i've never taken 400ug, let alone 300ug, and i think it would be pretty unpleasant and not necessarily more valuable than what i get from normal doses


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Sheekle]
    #21883232 - 07/01/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ive taken acid like over a hundred times and i've never taken 400ug, let alone 300ug, and i think it would be pretty unpleasant and not necessarily more valuable than what i get from normal doses




Yeah I have taken it a little over 30 times now and there's just no reason I would want to go over 300ug, 12-15 hours is a long fucking time to be tripping that hard. I would much rather do 5-7g of shrooms than 400ug+ of LSD, even though the acid would probably be way less of a mindfuck.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21883303 - 07/01/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

250ug would ego death me for a short time. People throw out some wild numbers when it comes to acid


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: MentalWarfare]
    #21883947 - 07/01/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I dont know the dosage of my tabs but I assume they are far less than 200mics appiece. Two of those is a good amount, for a first lsd experience even, but at most I think that would be about 200mics, and a few times shit has gotten real intense even on that dose, including ego death and one friend having some kinda psychotic episode that probably had more to do with him than the drug, but still.

In any case, just in case the tabs are actually 200 appiec3, I think taking one to start is smarter. You can always buy more right?


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Ezuma]
    #21884040 - 07/01/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Agree 350 is ego death easily. If ur experienced you'll probably be fine with right setting, but remember that you can take more -but you cannot put any back.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: teenagehippie] * 1
    #21884310 - 07/01/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I ate a whopping dose my first trip & needed to be babysat. Complete ego dissolution at a festival. Luckily I was in a good spot, and surrounded by good people. Folks far underestimate how powerful LSD really is.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Sheekle]
    #21884372 - 07/01/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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def wouldnt recommend taking both




Same!

My first trip was 1.5 hofmann blotters, they're lab tested at 120ug iirc, so 180ug

It was very intense, the world swang from side to side outside, the trees did some weird stuff ;-)

Was like walking on a ship on a wavy ocean


Don't take over 200ug and go outside!
200ug is not a play toy, if you take >200ug and go outside you will regret it most likely....

200ug is not safe to go outside on usually


A good beginner dose IMO is 120-160ug


Just trust your dealer here, if its real 200ug, you should only start with a half one max, wait for 1.5 hour or so before you redose anything (use a watch, LSD can dilate time a bit..)


200ug can be too much for me now, I seem to require less and less, I just merge with it all on 200ug, its just too much
100ug is a better start dose for me now, then I can always redose...


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21884386 - 07/01/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and make sure it has no taste

if it has a taste it is likely NOT lsd...

spit it out if it has bitter/numbing a taste.. - there are a lot of reserach chems around(fake lsd)


you should of course both test it
1. ehrlich test
2. uv test, lsd glows blue in uv light (uv pen is $6 on ebay with postage)
3. taste test - real L has no taste on blotter
4. time test it, real LSD hits very strongly suddenly @60mins, trip ends @12 hours always

Erowid is your friend, get to know the LSD trip curve/trip peak times etc- so you can compare your trip points to it, and be 100% sure it is LSD



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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: MentalWarfare]
    #21884590 - 07/01/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I will be trying LSD for the first time in a couple weeks. In my drug history I've used weed, shrooms, and NBome. I'll have two tabs said to be dosed at 200ug. Should I take both at once or one, and then dose the second later? Split in half? I've read a lot already, but answers seem to be mixed. I'm not worried about freaking out, I'll have an experienced user with me, and some benzos to keep me calm just in case. I'm just curious as for the experience, I've read that above 350+ is usually when tings are more serious and ego death, along wit almost not being able to really even see or think/perform basic functions because you'll just be flooded with visuals/feelings. I'm probably going to go in a music phase for the most part, and then watch some cartoons, etc. At what dose should I expect to still be able to at least change songs/be able to work the remote. So, what's the best dose?





Wow, a lot of gungho motherfuckers on here. I gave a kid (20 year old adult kid with two jobs) one tab dosed at 220ug, and yes it was at 220ug, and he flipped out. Lost all sense of time, didn't even really trip, but pretty much cried because he didn't understand how high he was. He said at points he didn't know/remember he had been tripping.

DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TELLING YOU HOW MUCH IS ON THERE WITH JUST ONE GRAIN OF SALT. Some people, honest people who want to share the love actually share it and don't bullshit, and i'm telling you if you're not prepared and know the terrian, 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21884612 - 07/01/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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and make sure it has no taste

if it has a taste it is likely NOT lsd...

spit it out if it has bitter/numbing a taste.. - there are a lot of reserach chems around(fake lsd)


you should of course both test it
1. ehrlich test
2. uv test, lsd glows blue in uv light (uv pen is $6 on ebay with postage)
3. taste test - real L has no taste on blotter
4. time test it, real LSD hits very strongly suddenly @60mins, trip ends @12 hours always

Erowid is your friend, get to know the LSD trip curve/trip peak times etc- so you can compare your trip points to it, and be 100% sure it is LSD







yeah, and this too, NO taste, lets be a little more real here, 12-14 hours if it'd be his first dose, and it's high dose, and of course a test kit. I don't know about UV, but i'm assuming this guy's not bullshiting, just have never looked that up.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21884620 - 07/01/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well, and just to say, if you've had a huge meal, and you're a bigger person, it might take longer to hit. I've had this happen on multiple occasions, and overdosed myself because i wasn't feeling it "when i should". You have to learn your own body too, and that, unfortunately takes trials, and errors.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21884657 - 07/01/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ive taken acid like over a hundred times and i've never taken 400ug, let alone 300ug, and i think it would be pretty unpleasant and not necessarily more valuable than what i get from normal doses




Yeah I have taken it a little over 30 times now and there's just no reason I would want to go over 300ug, 12-15 hours is a long fucking time to be tripping that hard. I would much rather do 5-7g of shrooms than 400ug+ of LSD, even though the acid would probably be way less of a mindfuck.




Really? I totally disagree, i think with a proper preperation, seriously high dose LSD, 500ug+ might get you close to what i've started calling the life beam, and i don't know, i think i'd like to be there for more than the seemingly couple minutes that i'm usually there, on MXE and Ketamine, or the combo of LSD and Ketamine/MXE. Only done the latter, with 3 nice sized doses of MDMA throughout the D trip, and the MXE after about 8 hours.  But i think reaching that point on LSD alone would be, if you had the time, maybe the best 5-10 hours of your life. Or the worst, or both, intermingled, most likely.

I ate 800ug over the course of 9 hours and was tripping for a good 20 hours hard. Started off slow, and the final two i ate at the same time about 6 hours after the first intial test corner. Unforgettable.

..I was there, dude. And it's awesome.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21884668 - 07/01/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All this beer and klonopins got me talkative, might have to mellow out on a wee bump of Mexus.

I think that's my name for MXE now, like Nexus. Seems to fit the bill.

I'll stop bogarting this thread though. :heart:


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21884919 - 07/01/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I've eaten 300ug and as it was an amazingly intense trip but didn't reach ego death. I've eaten acid probably over 100 times and I've found 4-500 will make you completely forget who you are


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21885034 - 07/01/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no upper dose with LSD

I've eaten 8-16 hits at a time, not the strongest, but Ganesha they were called, think around 100-120ug they were claimed to be at

That was with tolerance, but good strong trip



I just wouldn't encourage newbies to go highdose, you start low with LSD and learn the drug

Learn about set,setting,dose

Then work your way yup, after 50-100 trips I started doing some high doses like that

10 hits is no prob, higher doses are often more pleasant than lower doses


But not for newbies, newbies are probably not ready for a high dose... I wouldn't do over 150-180ug max my first few times for sure


There are some spiritual/mental risks if you go too fast, take it slow. Learn from each trip, write notes what you learned and used it for.


LSD works best with a walk in nature with psytrance, and away from strangers/family/people (be alone or with trusted sitter). Strangers are not good when tripping (they give bad trip on LSD)

Take setting very serious, read Erowid about SET,SETTING,DOSE. Know your drug.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21885637 - 07/01/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MentalWarfare said:
I will be trying LSD for the first time in a couple weeks. In my drug history I've used weed, shrooms, and NBome. I'll have two tabs said to be dosed at 200ug. Should I take both at once or one, and then dose the second later? Split in half? I've read a lot already, but answers seem to be mixed. I'm not worried about freaking out, I'll have an experienced user with me, and some benzos to keep me calm just in case. I'm just curious as for the experience, I've read that above 350  is usually when tings are more serious and ego death, along wit almost not being able to really even see or think/perform basic functions because you'll just be flooded with visuals/feelings. I'm probably going to go in a music phase for the most part, and then watch some cartoons, etc. At what dose should I expect to still be able to at least change songs/be able to work the remote. So, what's the best dose?





Wow, a lot of gungho motherfuckers on here. I gave a kid (20 year old adult kid with two jobs) one tab dosed at 220ug, and yes it was at 220ug, and he flipped out. Lost all sense of time, didn't even really trip, but pretty much cried because he didn't understand how high he was. He said at points he didn't know/remember he had been tripping.

DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TELLING YOU HOW MUCH IS ON THERE WITH JUST ONE GRAIN OF SALT. Some people, honest people who want to share the love actually share it and don't bullshit, and i'm telling you if you're not prepared and know the terrian, 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
introspective nightmare"





Interesting, I also have tabs that are supposed to be 220ug, but in reality they're less. People sent these tabs to energy control in spain (proffesional lab) where the lab results determined the sample only had 78ug on it. If you have the same tabs as me, that kid might have lost his shit on only 78ug and he should feel fortunate that they weren't actually 220 or he'd have had an even rougher time. In general, most tabs have less lsd than people think.

My point is that lsd is a powerful drug and even around 100ug is still nothing to under estimate. Whats the point of doing 200-400ug anyway? All though, I don't think OP will actually do 200-400 even if he tried. I say that because you probably think your tabs are worth a certain amount of micro grams and so you did the math and figured x amount of tabs = x amount of micro gram, but I can almost guarantee the tabs don't have as much as you think. It's almost conspiracy level how tabs have so much less lsd on them than people think. Even blotters advertised as 115ug have been found to "only have 58" and that's probably how it's always been, so people don't have a real reference point. People dropping 10 strips thinking they're doing a mg of lsd when in reality it's probably more like 200-400 mikes.

anyway, that all doesn't actually matter it's mostly a personal thing. As for the actual topic, assuming your dose is correct then do 200ug instead of the 400. Like if you're going to go "hard" for your first time then at least stick to the lower end of the scale. If only out of sheer respect for this powerful compound that has the ability to shit on you for 12 hours.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21886123 - 07/02/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

100ug seems perfect for a beginner. I had an estimated 300ug each with my girlfriend in the woods my first trip, and I'll just say that 16 hour trip would have been VERY south if we didn't realize submitting to the trip was the only option when the peak came. After that, absolute bliss.

Point is, it's up to you just be prepared. I never have tripped as hard as I first did and never would want to unless doing DMT again. However, it was necessary and needed at that point in my life.

Heavy trips are easier with L than shrooms atleast ime. The stimulation from acid is a lot more, but so is the headspace.. You can be on a full blown LSD trip and have moments that are next to sober in clarity.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21886646 - 07/02/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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HalfOwlHalfShroom said:
100ug seems perfect for a beginner. I had an estimated 300ug each with my girlfriend in the woods my first trip, and I'll just say that 16 hour trip would have been VERY south if we didn't realize submitting to the trip was the only option when the peak came. After that, absolute bliss.

Point is, it's up to you just be prepared. I never have tripped as hard as I first did and never would want to unless doing DMT again. However, it was necessary and needed at that point in my life.

Heavy trips are easier with L than shrooms atleast ime. The stimulation from acid is a lot more, but so is the headspace.. You can be on a full blown LSD trip and have moments that are next to sober in clarity.




So just to be safe from all your replies I'm probably just going to take one tab, I didn't know  some tabs were so lowly dosed but listed as higher though, that's crazy.




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Hrethic said:
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MentalWarfare said:
I will be trying LSD for the first time in a couple weeks. In my drug history I've used weed, shrooms, and NBome. I'll have two tabs said to be dosed at 200ug. Should I take both at once or one, and then dose the second later? Split in half? I've read a lot already, but answers seem to be mixed. I'm not worried about freaking out, I'll have an experienced user with me, and some benzos to keep me calm just in case. I'm just curious as for the experience, I've read that above 350+ is usually when tings are more serious and ego death, along wit almost not being able to really even see or think/perform basic functions because you'll just be flooded with visuals/feelings. I'm probably going to go in a music phase for the most part, and then watch some cartoons, etc. At what dose should I expect to still be able to at least change songs/be able to work the remote. So, what's the best dose?





Wow, a lot of gungho motherfuckers on here. I gave a kid (20 year old adult kid with two jobs) one tab dosed at 220ug, and yes it was at 220ug, and he flipped out. Lost all sense of time, didn't even really trip, but pretty much cried because he didn't understand how high he was. He said at points he didn't know/remember he had been tripping.

DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TELLING YOU HOW MUCH IS ON THERE WITH JUST ONE GRAIN OF SALT. Some people, honest people who want to share the love actually share it and don't bullshit, and i'm telling you if you're not prepared and know the terrian, 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
introspective nightmare"




I'll be sure to make sure it's real acid, and also that  was crazy ass line there man ' 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
introspective nightmare" '


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