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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21884386 - 07/01/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and make sure it has no taste

if it has a taste it is likely NOT lsd...

spit it out if it has bitter/numbing a taste.. - there are a lot of reserach chems around(fake lsd)


you should of course both test it
1. ehrlich test
2. uv test, lsd glows blue in uv light (uv pen is $6 on ebay with postage)
3. taste test - real L has no taste on blotter
4. time test it, real LSD hits very strongly suddenly @60mins, trip ends @12 hours always

Erowid is your friend, get to know the LSD trip curve/trip peak times etc- so you can compare your trip points to it, and be 100% sure it is LSD



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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: MentalWarfare]
    #21884590 - 07/01/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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MentalWarfare said:
I will be trying LSD for the first time in a couple weeks. In my drug history I've used weed, shrooms, and NBome. I'll have two tabs said to be dosed at 200ug. Should I take both at once or one, and then dose the second later? Split in half? I've read a lot already, but answers seem to be mixed. I'm not worried about freaking out, I'll have an experienced user with me, and some benzos to keep me calm just in case. I'm just curious as for the experience, I've read that above 350+ is usually when tings are more serious and ego death, along wit almost not being able to really even see or think/perform basic functions because you'll just be flooded with visuals/feelings. I'm probably going to go in a music phase for the most part, and then watch some cartoons, etc. At what dose should I expect to still be able to at least change songs/be able to work the remote. So, what's the best dose?





Wow, a lot of gungho motherfuckers on here. I gave a kid (20 year old adult kid with two jobs) one tab dosed at 220ug, and yes it was at 220ug, and he flipped out. Lost all sense of time, didn't even really trip, but pretty much cried because he didn't understand how high he was. He said at points he didn't know/remember he had been tripping.

DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TELLING YOU HOW MUCH IS ON THERE WITH JUST ONE GRAIN OF SALT. Some people, honest people who want to share the love actually share it and don't bullshit, and i'm telling you if you're not prepared and know the terrian, 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
introspective nightmare"


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21884612 - 07/01/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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lessismore said:
and make sure it has no taste

if it has a taste it is likely NOT lsd...

spit it out if it has bitter/numbing a taste.. - there are a lot of reserach chems around(fake lsd)


you should of course both test it
1. ehrlich test
2. uv test, lsd glows blue in uv light (uv pen is $6 on ebay with postage)
3. taste test - real L has no taste on blotter
4. time test it, real LSD hits very strongly suddenly @60mins, trip ends @12 hours always

Erowid is your friend, get to know the LSD trip curve/trip peak times etc- so you can compare your trip points to it, and be 100% sure it is LSD







yeah, and this too, NO taste, lets be a little more real here, 12-14 hours if it'd be his first dose, and it's high dose, and of course a test kit. I don't know about UV, but i'm assuming this guy's not bullshiting, just have never looked that up.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21884620 - 07/01/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well, and just to say, if you've had a huge meal, and you're a bigger person, it might take longer to hit. I've had this happen on multiple occasions, and overdosed myself because i wasn't feeling it "when i should". You have to learn your own body too, and that, unfortunately takes trials, and errors.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21884657 - 07/01/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
ive taken acid like over a hundred times and i've never taken 400ug, let alone 300ug, and i think it would be pretty unpleasant and not necessarily more valuable than what i get from normal doses




Yeah I have taken it a little over 30 times now and there's just no reason I would want to go over 300ug, 12-15 hours is a long fucking time to be tripping that hard. I would much rather do 5-7g of shrooms than 400ug+ of LSD, even though the acid would probably be way less of a mindfuck.




Really? I totally disagree, i think with a proper preperation, seriously high dose LSD, 500ug+ might get you close to what i've started calling the life beam, and i don't know, i think i'd like to be there for more than the seemingly couple minutes that i'm usually there, on MXE and Ketamine, or the combo of LSD and Ketamine/MXE. Only done the latter, with 3 nice sized doses of MDMA throughout the D trip, and the MXE after about 8 hours.  But i think reaching that point on LSD alone would be, if you had the time, maybe the best 5-10 hours of your life. Or the worst, or both, intermingled, most likely.

I ate 800ug over the course of 9 hours and was tripping for a good 20 hours hard. Started off slow, and the final two i ate at the same time about 6 hours after the first intial test corner. Unforgettable.

..I was there, dude. And it's awesome.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21884668 - 07/01/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All this beer and klonopins got me talkative, might have to mellow out on a wee bump of Mexus.

I think that's my name for MXE now, like Nexus. Seems to fit the bill.

I'll stop bogarting this thread though. :heart:


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21884919 - 07/01/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea I've eaten 300ug and as it was an amazingly intense trip but didn't reach ego death. I've eaten acid probably over 100 times and I've found 4-500 will make you completely forget who you are


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21885034 - 07/01/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no upper dose with LSD

I've eaten 8-16 hits at a time, not the strongest, but Ganesha they were called, think around 100-120ug they were claimed to be at

That was with tolerance, but good strong trip



I just wouldn't encourage newbies to go highdose, you start low with LSD and learn the drug

Learn about set,setting,dose

Then work your way yup, after 50-100 trips I started doing some high doses like that

10 hits is no prob, higher doses are often more pleasant than lower doses


But not for newbies, newbies are probably not ready for a high dose... I wouldn't do over 150-180ug max my first few times for sure


There are some spiritual/mental risks if you go too fast, take it slow. Learn from each trip, write notes what you learned and used it for.


LSD works best with a walk in nature with psytrance, and away from strangers/family/people (be alone or with trusted sitter). Strangers are not good when tripping (they give bad trip on LSD)

Take setting very serious, read Erowid about SET,SETTING,DOSE. Know your drug.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21885637 - 07/01/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hrethic said:
Quote:

MentalWarfare said:
I will be trying LSD for the first time in a couple weeks. In my drug history I've used weed, shrooms, and NBome. I'll have two tabs said to be dosed at 200ug. Should I take both at once or one, and then dose the second later? Split in half? I've read a lot already, but answers seem to be mixed. I'm not worried about freaking out, I'll have an experienced user with me, and some benzos to keep me calm just in case. I'm just curious as for the experience, I've read that above 350  is usually when tings are more serious and ego death, along wit almost not being able to really even see or think/perform basic functions because you'll just be flooded with visuals/feelings. I'm probably going to go in a music phase for the most part, and then watch some cartoons, etc. At what dose should I expect to still be able to at least change songs/be able to work the remote. So, what's the best dose?





Wow, a lot of gungho motherfuckers on here. I gave a kid (20 year old adult kid with two jobs) one tab dosed at 220ug, and yes it was at 220ug, and he flipped out. Lost all sense of time, didn't even really trip, but pretty much cried because he didn't understand how high he was. He said at points he didn't know/remember he had been tripping.

DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TELLING YOU HOW MUCH IS ON THERE WITH JUST ONE GRAIN OF SALT. Some people, honest people who want to share the love actually share it and don't bullshit, and i'm telling you if you're not prepared and know the terrian, 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
introspective nightmare"





Interesting, I also have tabs that are supposed to be 220ug, but in reality they're less. People sent these tabs to energy control in spain (proffesional lab) where the lab results determined the sample only had 78ug on it. If you have the same tabs as me, that kid might have lost his shit on only 78ug and he should feel fortunate that they weren't actually 220 or he'd have had an even rougher time. In general, most tabs have less lsd than people think.

My point is that lsd is a powerful drug and even around 100ug is still nothing to under estimate. Whats the point of doing 200-400ug anyway? All though, I don't think OP will actually do 200-400 even if he tried. I say that because you probably think your tabs are worth a certain amount of micro grams and so you did the math and figured x amount of tabs = x amount of micro gram, but I can almost guarantee the tabs don't have as much as you think. It's almost conspiracy level how tabs have so much less lsd on them than people think. Even blotters advertised as 115ug have been found to "only have 58" and that's probably how it's always been, so people don't have a real reference point. People dropping 10 strips thinking they're doing a mg of lsd when in reality it's probably more like 200-400 mikes.

anyway, that all doesn't actually matter it's mostly a personal thing. As for the actual topic, assuming your dose is correct then do 200ug instead of the 400. Like if you're going to go "hard" for your first time then at least stick to the lower end of the scale. If only out of sheer respect for this powerful compound that has the ability to shit on you for 12 hours.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: lessismore]
    #21886123 - 07/02/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

100ug seems perfect for a beginner. I had an estimated 300ug each with my girlfriend in the woods my first trip, and I'll just say that 16 hour trip would have been VERY south if we didn't realize submitting to the trip was the only option when the peak came. After that, absolute bliss.

Point is, it's up to you just be prepared. I never have tripped as hard as I first did and never would want to unless doing DMT again. However, it was necessary and needed at that point in my life.

Heavy trips are easier with L than shrooms atleast ime. The stimulation from acid is a lot more, but so is the headspace.. You can be on a full blown LSD trip and have moments that are next to sober in clarity.


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Re: 200 - 400 LSD First Time [Re: Hrethic]
    #21886646 - 07/02/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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HalfOwlHalfShroom said:
100ug seems perfect for a beginner. I had an estimated 300ug each with my girlfriend in the woods my first trip, and I'll just say that 16 hour trip would have been VERY south if we didn't realize submitting to the trip was the only option when the peak came. After that, absolute bliss.

Point is, it's up to you just be prepared. I never have tripped as hard as I first did and never would want to unless doing DMT again. However, it was necessary and needed at that point in my life.

Heavy trips are easier with L than shrooms atleast ime. The stimulation from acid is a lot more, but so is the headspace.. You can be on a full blown LSD trip and have moments that are next to sober in clarity.




So just to be safe from all your replies I'm probably just going to take one tab, I didn't know  some tabs were so lowly dosed but listed as higher though, that's crazy.




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Hrethic said:
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MentalWarfare said:
I will be trying LSD for the first time in a couple weeks. In my drug history I've used weed, shrooms, and NBome. I'll have two tabs said to be dosed at 200ug. Should I take both at once or one, and then dose the second later? Split in half? I've read a lot already, but answers seem to be mixed. I'm not worried about freaking out, I'll have an experienced user with me, and some benzos to keep me calm just in case. I'm just curious as for the experience, I've read that above 350+ is usually when tings are more serious and ego death, along wit almost not being able to really even see or think/perform basic functions because you'll just be flooded with visuals/feelings. I'm probably going to go in a music phase for the most part, and then watch some cartoons, etc. At what dose should I expect to still be able to at least change songs/be able to work the remote. So, what's the best dose?





Wow, a lot of gungho motherfuckers on here. I gave a kid (20 year old adult kid with two jobs) one tab dosed at 220ug, and yes it was at 220ug, and he flipped out. Lost all sense of time, didn't even really trip, but pretty much cried because he didn't understand how high he was. He said at points he didn't know/remember he had been tripping.

DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TELLING YOU HOW MUCH IS ON THERE WITH JUST ONE GRAIN OF SALT. Some people, honest people who want to share the love actually share it and don't bullshit, and i'm telling you if you're not prepared and know the terrian, 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
introspective nightmare"




I'll be sure to make sure it's real acid, and also that  was crazy ass line there man ' 400ug will either have you, as buddah, looking down at yourself and your surroundings, or trapped in a (yes i'm quoting Fear and Loathing, fuck off :-)) "hellishly intense
introspective nightmare" '


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