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36fuckin5
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Re: PE on wood [Re: aris]
#21855689 - 06/25/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well you come in with some bullshit experiment, 2 years later you have no results, and you claim it's a success somehow. This is just stupid.
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bodhisatta 
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using improper correlation to imply some sort of causation makes people look dumb so that's probably why.
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aris
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Oh sorry i didnt make a continuous 2 year long video to satisfy you tards.
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Re: PE on wood [Re: aris]
#21855729 - 06/25/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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aris said: Oh sorry i didnt make a continuous 2 year long video to satisfy you tards.
now you get it, that is exactly what we're trying to point out!
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aris
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at least consider this is no hoax? I dont really give a fuck if u believe me without photographs. Im not trying to say that everyone should try to duplicate my experience. Im just sharing my experience. That said there are plenty of other threads where people do the same and there isnt a peanut gallery of "we dont belive u had that experience, this is waste of time." It would be helpful if you have links to were others tried a similar experiment for shits and giggles.
Edited by aris (06/25/15 03:58 PM)
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Re: PE on wood [Re: aris]
#21855795 - 06/25/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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there's plenty of research on phototrophic response and evidence to boot. you don't anything resembling a cunning argument to defy the status quo. The opinions of science are always changing but that's because people try to be compelling, since that's the requirement for attention.
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Re: PE on wood [Re: aris]
#21855804 - 06/25/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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aris
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Whats not compelling about something that ive found very little about? Again im just sharing my experience im not asking you for permission or attention. And this thread isnt about fruiting or light so could people register that already and stop derailing things.
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Re: PE on wood [Re: aris] 1
#21855834 - 06/25/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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aris said: stop derailing things.
only you can prevent forest derailings
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (06/25/15 04:06 PM)
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Re: PE on wood [Re: aris]
#21855840 - 06/25/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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aris said: Whats not compelling about something that ive found very little about? Again im just sharing my experience im not asking you for permission or attention. And this thread isnt about fruiting or light so could people register that already and stop derailing things.
we call it a bullshit without proof simple as this
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Re: PE on wood [Re: Aero]
#21856314 - 06/25/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even if the wood hasn't sustained them it could have functioned as a matrix or a porus wicking structure with more fae then other finer subs. the nearby piles of chips that weren't tampered with haven't colonized with anything visible yet. Colony radiates outward from original epicenter. Smells right.. psliocybes go ryzo on weak subs and search for better food sources. Thats what it looks like has happend.
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CH HELL
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Re: PE on wood [Re: aris]
#21856332 - 06/25/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Relax everyone...
The only question here is,,,,, is this PE myc? Being outdoors it could be 1,000+ different things. Just because you put PE there does NOT mean another mushroom didn't take over.
Just show a picture like this....

or this...

Those are cubes on wood dowels.
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Re: PE on wood [Re: CH HELL]
#21856489 - 06/25/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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CH HELL said: Relax everyone...
The same fuckers as always. OP. Don't let the haters bother you. Best bet is to get results. Then post what you've posted and wait for the assholes to say what they say. Then post your results and watch em all stfu
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Re: PE on wood [Re: azur]
#21856503 - 06/25/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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post results and watch us STFU
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Re: PE on wood [Re: azur]
#21856512 - 06/25/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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if you gonna post an empty pic and insist there's mushrooms growing from it someone's gonna ask wtf. that's not "hating", its just keeping shroomery at a better level than those other sites out there..
IMO as always of course...
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CH HELL
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It wasn't an empty picture. It is clearly mycelium but there is no telling what the myc is. The guy is excited and showing people here. I am hoping it is PE, if it is I want a swab.
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Re: PE on wood [Re: CH HELL]
#21856667 - 06/25/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There have already been numerous peer reviewed papers on agaricales ability to colonize lignin and if they can derive any benefit from it. While the consensus is that they can indeed break the lignin down, there is still zero evidence that they can utilize any nutes from it. So far it seems that any abilitys to break down lignin is simply to access the cellulose embedded within.
This means that because of the really high lignin content in wood, the only real benefit it could have aside from the difficult to access cellulose, is as a water reservoir. Given its a high risk substrate for trich, you wouldn't want to use it for anything that is not going to aggressively colonize and utilize it. Far better to save it for species that actually benefit from it. Use substrates high in cellulose instead. The cubes shall thank you. FYI this post is not "Hating".
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Re: PE on wood [Re: CH HELL]
#21856694 - 06/25/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The issue is that it looks exactly the same as 2 years ago: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18971464
Still I do agree some were pretty harsh. There's nothing wrong with doing stuff for fun. It's also very cool when that project succeeds. However 2 years later with no difference isn't good. That's why I suggested taking some pieces and putting it on agar. That way you can still work with the same stuff, fruit it out indoors, and known for sure if it's still pe. It apparently went through -21F.
Pasty that's amazing info. So are you saying that anything with higher cellulose is better? I wanted to make a can it grow on it series for shits and giggles, but knowing exactly what's best would really help in my decisions on random substrates.
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Pastywhyte
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Most of the best substrates for cubes are high in cellulose. They are actually grasslovers. Straw, manure, grain, coir are all high in cellulose.
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