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Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' * 1
    #21854379 - 06/25/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Convicted bomber gives first public statement since 2013 attack
Judge formally sentences Tsarnaev to death
Court hears moving and defiant speeches from victims and family members



http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/24/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-boston-marathon-bombing-survivors-speak


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“I would like to now apologize to the victims, to the survivors,” he told a Boston court shortly before being formally sentenced to death for the bombing. “I want to ask forgiveness of Allah and his creation.”

He added: “I am sorry for the lives I have taken, for the suffering that I have caused you, for the damage I have done – irreparable damage.

“In case there is any doubt, I am guilty of this attack, along with my brother,” Tsarnaev said, standing at the defense table, referring to his older brother Tamerlan, killed during the manhunt that followed the bombing.

To the victims attending the hearing at the US district court, he said: “I pray for your relief, for your healing.”




So I guess he is likely going to be put down.  I suppose it is for the best, I don't think someone like that could ever be trusted to re-enter society.  I'm still undecided if this apology is in any way genuine or if he is still just hoping to save his skin.  It seems like he is flaunting his religious beliefs in a pretty smug way when that was supposedly the same thing that lead to this, which irks me personally, but that isn't a crime in of itself.  The crime is that he killed and maimed innocent men women and children, which is why he must be held accountable.

Do you feel justice has been served?  What are your feelings regarding Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his dead brother?


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21854417 - 06/25/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He's a goner anyways, not sure what other purpose this apology could serve.

So, I'm guessing it's as genuine as possible for a young guy.

What do I know?


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21854432 - 06/25/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As someone who was in Boston for the marathon the year before this happened I can't say I feel bad.

If my dad had been accepted into the marathon next year we would have been there when it happened most likely and my father could be dead right now.

I hope for his sake it is an honest apology though. Not that it will change things for him.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: musiclover420] * 2
    #21854466 - 06/25/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im sure hes so sorry.  Fuck him, boil in pigs blood.



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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21854485 - 06/25/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

he woulda been murdered in prison anyways


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21854497 - 06/25/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that day was pretty scary tho

shit in bostom got real crazy. there were reports other acts of terrorism were happening like at the library too. subways got shut down and people couldnt leave the city for a while

they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21854502 - 06/25/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Whack this wannabe-Jihadi cocksucker slow and painful, ISIS style.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21854536 - 06/25/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see how he's flaunting his religion in a smug fashion. If a Christian had done this and asked for forgiveness from God you wouldn't say he was flaunting his religion, it's just some stupid thing people say to seem remorseful (if someone believes in God and truly wants forgiveness from God all they have to do is ask or go tell a preacher, the only purpose telling a courtroom full of people something like that is to make yourself look better).

As for my feelings on him, I don't really care to be honest. I know I'm supposed to be all like "OMG he's a terrorist piece of shit do all kinds of horrible things to him" but nope. He could die today or rot in prison for the rest of his life and it wouldn't make any difference to me. Once he was caught you already knew his life was over one way or another. It's not as if he stood any chance of being found not guilty. I know we have due process and that everyone has to be treated according to it, but honestly the trial was a colossal waste of time. Should've just stamped "Guilty" on his forehead as he was being put in the patrol car and jumped straight to sentencing.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21854554 - 06/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21854598 - 06/25/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't see how he's flaunting his religion in a smug fashion.




That is totally just a personal judgement, and all I'm really basing that on is what I've read in articles.  I kinda felt the same about some of the victims and their families statements', but many were also well thought out and poignant, and I felt it would be inappropriate to say that given the circumstances.  They are innocent people who are the victim of a terrorist attack, I can't resent them for what they believe.

He waived that right as far as I'm concerned when he started plotting to maim and kill innocent people.

I haven't seen any video of him speaking really this whole time, which is one thing I would have liked.  I don't see why they wouldn't let him release a video statement since all is said and done, just for the public record.  Maybe there are still possible appeals, or maybe he doesn't want to do that.

Has anyone seen video of him speaking?  I know there is alot of stuff they got leading up to the bombing that documents his radicalization, but in cases like this I still really feel the need to hear their account from their mouth, even if they come out and tell a lie or something like that.  I can't really say why I feel this is important, but when the public image of cases like this is so heavily controlled and restricted, it just bothers me.

Do you guys think that the way some cases are controlled like this is a good idea?  Is that better than making a spectacle of things?

I think the who no-photography/video in the court is ridiculous.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21854600 - 06/25/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

guys stfu with this religion bullshit


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21854697 - 06/25/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

2 years or so in the pen can make a person think. But I will never trust someone who had done such a thing. His only saving grace will come from his relationship with God I suppose.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21854705 - 06/25/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I disagree with the death penalty, but I will admit that this guy probably deserves it more than most people on death row.

With that said, for some reason, there's a part of me that believes he's sorry, and I've always found it hard to shake the feeling that he is not nearly as culpable as his older brother was. I don't know why.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21854718 - 06/25/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hes not fucking sorry.  He wants idiots to feel bad for him :facepalm:


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21854775 - 06/25/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Call me old fashioned but I just have a hard time making that call without looking him in the eye, even if it is a video.  Since I can't do that I am inclined to not believe him I guess, and it certainly makes it easier hearing that he's to be put to death I think.

I think he should go on Dr. Phil and sort this all out



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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21854794 - 06/25/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

who cares if hes sorry, him being sorry doesnt change what happened

dudes gonna die


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21854865 - 06/25/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree, I just like to judge people based on how they say things, as well as what they say.

As far as I know he still could have appeals, he might die in prison before they get a chance to kill him given how most cases of this nature tend to drag out.  There isn't really any doubt though, he confessed, which I think does warrant some recognition as well as an apology if it is genuine, but I don't really feel like it is.  I think he is still under the influence of the same people who lead him and his brother to commit these inhuman acts.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21855036 - 06/25/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't believe he is sorry at all.  He is probably looking forward to raping virgins when he dies.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: DieCommie]
    #21855053 - 06/25/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It is all a conspiracy anyway.  $100 says he is a sleeper cell.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21855076 - 06/25/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't care about that kid. He'll be dead soon anyway


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21855150 - 06/25/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
way when that was supposedly the same thing that lead to this




do you believe it's possible that the thing "that lead to this" was his misinterpretation of the teachings?  or perhaps someone teaching him things that arent even in the quran


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: k00laid] * 1
    #21855185 - 06/25/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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do you believe it's possible that the thing "that lead to this" was his misinterpretation of the teachings?




No, that is not possible.  There is no such thing as "misinterpretation" in this respect.  There is only different interpretations.  To claim an interpretation is a misinterpretation necessarily requires there to be a correct interpretation which necessarily requires that the god of the religon does exist and does have an intent for its teachings.  Only a believer can logically claim that the interpretation is a misinterpretation.  Otherwise, there are just different kinds of interpretations.  Some we may like, some we may not like - but none are correct or incorrect, they are interpretations that every person chooses for themselves. 

You cant misinterpret a false religion's teachings any more than you can like the wrong food for your favorite type of food.  There is no right or wrong, its personal preference.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21855191 - 06/25/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think he is still under the influence of the same people who lead him and his brother to commit these inhuman acts.




We are all always under the influence of the people in our lives.  That is not an excuse at all, its a recognition of a way that monsters are created.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: DieCommie]
    #21855245 - 06/25/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, but my idealistic side thinks he is capable of doing more to acknowledge where he went wrong.  I wouldn't really expect that from someone gullible enough to go down this road, but I would still like to see what I would consider genuine remorse where what he is saying now feel to me like just fulfilling the bare minimum of what is culturally appropriate.

I'd like it if he had the courage to stand up for what is right, but of course then this probably never would have happened.  As it stands I personally can't forgive him on any level.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: DieCommie]
    #21855295 - 06/25/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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requires there to be a correct interpretation which necessarily requires that the god of the religon does exist




no it doesnt.

i can write a fiction story about a fucking talking dinosaur, and i as the writer know the correct interpretation, and you as the reader do not.  therefore you have the possibility to incorrectly interpret the story.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: k00laid]
    #21855344 - 06/25/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The writer is god through long dead people.  Only a believer can logically appeal to god's intention.

Why do you believe his interpretation is incorrect?  Do you know the author and the author's intent?  If not then you cannot say the interpretation is wrong just because you personally don't like it.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: DieCommie]
    #21855429 - 06/25/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Patlal]
    #21855444 - 06/25/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't care about that kid. He'll be dead soon anyway



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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21855449 - 06/25/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: k00laid]
    #21855454 - 06/25/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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way when that was supposedly the same thing that lead to this




do you believe it's possible that the thing "that lead to this" was his misinterpretation of the teachings?  or perhaps someone teaching him things that arent even in the quran




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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21857052 - 06/25/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

His lawyers coached him to say that as set up for the appeal. Not that it'll matter. Fuck that guy. I don't care if he was as involved as his brother or not. He participated in the murder & maiming of many people. Fuck him.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21857069 - 06/25/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't care what happens to this shit stain. Justice was served as much as it could be given the circumstances.

I would much rather see him isolated in that ADX prison or whatever it is. That is a punishment much worse than death.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21857136 - 06/25/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Im sure hes so sorry.  Fuck him, boil in pigs blood.





True, he deserves worse. I can't say for sure that he isn't remorseful however I doubt it.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21859388 - 06/26/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Im sure hes so sorry.  Fuck him, boil in pigs blood.





True, he deserves worse. I can't say for sure that he isn't remorseful however I doubt it.





You're right, we cant say FOR SURE he isn't but that leads me to what Dark Star said.


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His lawyers coached him to say that as set up for the appeal. Not that it'll matter. Fuck that guy. I don't care if he was as involved as his brother or not. He participated in the murder & maiming of many people. Fuck him.




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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21859425 - 06/26/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you feel justice has been served?  What are your feelings regarding Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his dead brother?



There's no denying he did it, so of course justice has been served. I don't care for the death penalty, especially in the current state it's in now, however.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21859427 - 06/26/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.




The response was ludicrous. I can't remember how many thousands of police officers they had out looking for one guy (might have been 9000 or something like that), but it was a huge over reaction. They basically shut a whole city down and confined people to their homes while they searched for him. I was living in a suburb of boston at the time, and I was way more afraid of the police coming in to fuck up my neighborhood than I was of some stupid kid who was trying to hide from an army of overpowered cops.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: D.M.T]
    #21859434 - 06/26/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

None of us can really know if justice was served.  Don't lie.


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    #21859439 - 06/26/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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As for my feelings on him, I don't really care to be honest. I know I'm supposed to be all like "OMG he's a terrorist piece of shit do all kinds of horrible things to him" but nope. He could die today or rot in prison for the rest of his life and it wouldn't make any difference to me. Once he was caught you already knew his life was over one way or another. It's not as if he stood any chance of being found not guilty. I know we have due process and that everyone has to be treated according to it, but honestly the trial was a colossal waste of time. Should've just stamped "Guilty" on his forehead as he was being put in the patrol car and jumped straight to sentencing.



If we didn't go through the trial, the precedent this could set against future due process for others would be unjust. Everyone deserves a trial.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21859465 - 06/26/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.




The response was ludicrous. I can't remember how many thousands of police officers they had out looking for one guy (might have been 9000 or something like that), but it was a huge over reaction. They basically shut a whole city down and confined people to their homes while they searched for him. I was living in a suburb of boston at the time, and I was way more afraid of the police coming in to fuck up my neighborhood than I was of some stupid kid who was trying to hide from an army of overpowered cops.




Are you seriously complaining that cops were out looking for a most likely armed terrorist?  Good lord :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21859470 - 06/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.





yeah it was alarming

they did it tho cuz no one had any clue wtf was going on and cell phones can be triggers for bombs so they turned em all off in boston so no bombs could be triggered

my dad works like in the heart of the city and i had a couple real close friends in boston for either the red sox or Bruins that day

normall my dad gets home at like 4 and he got home at like 11 or 12 that night


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
    #21859483 - 06/26/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.




The response was ludicrous. I can't remember how many thousands of police officers they had out looking for one guy (might have been 9000 or something like that), but it was a huge over reaction. They basically shut a whole city down and confined people to their homes while they searched for him. I was living in a suburb of boston at the time, and I was way more afraid of the police coming in to fuck up my neighborhood than I was of some stupid kid who was trying to hide from an army of overpowered cops.





your actiing like boston police knew it was one person, which is fucking laughable

it happened just hours before that. we didnt know if it was one person or a team of terrorists

acting like what they did is wrong shows how fucking clueless you are


seriously, youre a fucking joke


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21859499 - 06/26/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.




The response was ludicrous. I can't remember how many thousands of police officers they had out looking for one guy (might have been 9000 or something like that), but it was a huge over reaction. They basically shut a whole city down and confined people to their homes while they searched for him. I was living in a suburb of boston at the time, and I was way more afraid of the police coming in to fuck up my neighborhood than I was of some stupid kid who was trying to hide from an army of overpowered cops.





your actiing like boston police knew it was one person, which is fucking laughable

it happened just hours before that. we didnt know if it was one person or a team of terrorists

acting like what they did is wrong shows how fucking clueless you are


seriously, youre a fucking joke




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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21859502 - 06/26/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

dudes like "damn i was more afraid of the police than this terrorist"

wow youre so fucking tough dude

seriously, just shut the fuck up


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21859521 - 06/26/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm complaining that an army of cops was out looking for one kid who they suspected was already wounded. I'm also complaining because they stepped on the constitutional rights of hundreds of thousands of people to search for the kid. There are terrorist compounds in the US that get a hell of a lot less attention than that. a few cops and a few news broadcasts of his description would have been more than enough to catch him. I can't believe you guys bitch about cops killings kids or people that look unarmed, but most of you seem to be okay with this shit.

Also, they did have an idea of how many people were involved and the response went on for a couple days like that. when you use that many cops for a man hunt, which occurred after the shooting, you do have some idea of what your're looking for, and finding one dumb kid shouldn't require an army of cops.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21859523 - 06/26/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

capital punishment is a bullshit way of dealing with a problem. instead of getting the person to actively change themselves and atone for their wrongdoings, the state steps in and just terminates them. while i'm sure many posters here would agree that it's easy and effective, i would argue that morally it is unjust.

i don't know if he is serious or not about the apology. what he did was severely fucked up, and i do not condone his actions in the slightest. but i do think that it is possible that he may be feeling sorry for what he did, he is human, he is capable of feeling emotions, and he is capable of reason. what would you do if you were faced with death after you made such a poor life decision?

i think a lot of people here lack empathy. i can empathize with that too, it's hard to feel sorry for people that commit heinous acts of violence against their fellow man.

this entire story is just very sad, including the victims of the bombing.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21859531 - 06/26/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah when a terrorism act happens to your city you totally take that lightly. no big deal right?


seriously, just shut the fuck up

what you essentially just said was "im pissed people tried so hard to keep our city safe"


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: 404] * 1
    #21859537 - 06/26/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There are no winners in this whole thing at all, as far as I can see it.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21859555 - 06/26/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I real
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yeah when a terrorism act happens to your city you totally take that lightly. no big deal right?


seriously, just shut the fuck up

what you essentially just said was "im pissed people tried to hard so keep our city safe"


go back to your sewer




That's not at all what I said. They probably caused way more damage with that response then they prevented, and they didn't gain much by doing it. Remeber, the police didn't even find the kid. Some guy called it in, and he didn't even need 9000 police to do it. Also, I didn't say it was no big deal. I said they overreacted, but I guess the idea of a measured response is something you can't understand.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21859558 - 06/26/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm complaining that an army of cops was out looking for one kid who they suspected was already wounded. I'm also complaining because they stepped on the constitutional rights of hundreds of thousands of people to search for the kid. There are terrorist compounds in the US that get a hell of a lot less attention than that. a few cops and a few news broadcasts of his description would have been more than enough to catch him. I can't believe you guys bitch about cops killings kids or people that look unarmed, but most of you seem to be okay with this shit.

Also, they did have an idea of how many people were involved and the response went on for a couple days like that. when you use that many cops for a man hunt, which occurred after the shooting, you do have some idea of what your're looking for, and finding one dumb kid shouldn't require an army of cops.




One dumb kid?

This "dumb kid"  setup an elaborate plan and fucking ruined peoples lives.  Threw bombs out windows at cops.

Honestly gtfo of America if youre gonna bitch when cops try to save your life.  What did you miss out on?  What was so important that you couldnt leave your house or use your phone?  Your bf couldnt get ahold of you?


Next time,  we'll just call Andy Mayberry and Barney Fife they'll get the job done.  Would you feel safe then?  What if was just a local police station looking for them and the "dumb kid" took someone in your family hostage?  Would you be crying then?  Nope, you'd be bitching and moaning that there wasn't enough cops out on the streets and now your family is a victim cause of it.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21859572 - 06/26/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

he acts like there wasnt multiple shootouts in one night in boston, which never happens here

shit got fucking real that night. the whole city got shut down. and this dudes bitching about a violation of rights? who needs rights when youre fucking dead?

dude shud go move to fucking iraq


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    #21859583 - 06/26/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Iraq would be ultimate butt hurt for him.. He'd scream oppression of his rights and get his head chopped off


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21859614 - 06/26/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah
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I'm complaining that an army of cops was out looking for one kid who they suspected was already wounded. I'm also complaining because they stepped on the constitutional rights of hundreds of thousands of people to search for the kid. There are terrorist compounds in the US that get a hell of a lot less attention than that. a few cops and a few news broadcasts of his description would have been more than enough to catch him. I can't believe you guys bitch about cops killings kids or people that look unarmed, but most of you seem to be okay with this shit.

Also, they did have an idea of how many people were involved and the response went on for a couple days like that. when you use that many cops for a man hunt, which occurred after the shooting, you do have some idea of what your're looking for, and finding one dumb kid shouldn't require an army of cops.




One dumb kid?

This "dumb kid"  setup an elaborate plan and fucking ruined peoples lives.  Threw bombs out windows at cops.

Honestly gtfo of America if youre gonna bitch when cops try to save your life.  What did you miss out on?  What was so important that you couldnt leave your house or use your phone?  Your bf couldnt get ahold of you?


Next time,  we'll just call Andy Mayberry and Barney Fife they'll get the job done.  Would you feel safe then?  What if was just a local police station looking for them and the "dumb kid" took someone in your family hostage?  Would you be crying then?  Nope, you'd be bitching and moaning that there wasn't enough cops out on the streets and now your family is a victim cause of it.




Daily life is that important, man. There was no reason interfere with public communications. Why are you defending these actions? What good did they do?

And remember, you won't be able to call Andy Mayberry and Barney Fife because you're phone won't work. God forbid you have some kid of emergency, because you can bet 911 will be busy since it's the only number in town that works.

If a 19 year old took somebody in my house hostage, then the local police could take care of it pretty easily. They'd probably call in a swat team, though, because they can do that as part of a reasonable response. If the police shut down a whole city to look for my family member, then I'd say they should put their efforts to better use, because that wouldn't help anybody.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21859624 - 06/26/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i cant believe the mods are just letting you troll

thanks for being a tattle tail too. please notice your reporting me didnt do shit either


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21859655 - 06/26/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm complaining that an army of cops was out looking for one kid who they suspected was already wounded. I'm also complaining because they stepped on the constitutional rights of hundreds of thousands of people to search for the kid. There are terrorist compounds in the US that get a hell of a lot less attention than that. a few cops and a few news broadcasts of his description would have been more than enough to catch him. I can't believe you guys bitch about cops killings kids or people that look unarmed, but most of you seem to be okay with this shit.

Also, they did have an idea of how many people were involved and the response went on for a couple days like that. when you use that many cops for a man hunt, which occurred after the shooting, you do have some idea of what your're looking for, and finding one dumb kid shouldn't require an army of cops.




One dumb kid?

This "dumb kid"  setup an elaborate plan and fucking ruined peoples lives.  Threw bombs out windows at cops.

Honestly gtfo of America if youre gonna bitch when cops try to save your life.  What did you miss out on?  What was so important that you couldnt leave your house or use your phone?  Your bf couldnt get ahold of you?


Next time,  we'll just call Andy Mayberry and Barney Fife they'll get the job done.  Would you feel safe then?  What if was just a local police station looking for them and the "dumb kid" took someone in your family hostage?  Would you be crying then?  Nope, you'd be bitching and moaning that there wasn't enough cops out on the streets and now your family is a victim cause of it.




Daily life is that important, man. There was no reason interfere with public communications. Why are you defending these actions? What good did they do?

And remember, you won't be able to call Andy Mayberry and Barney Fife because you're phone won't work. God forbid you have some kid of emergency, because you can bet 911 will be busy since it's the only number in town that works.

If a 19 year old took somebody in my house hostage, then the local police could take care of it pretty easily. They'd probably call in a swat team, though, because they can do that as part of a reasonable response. If the police shut down a whole city to look for my family member, then I'd say they should put their efforts to better use, because that wouldn't help anybody.





Daily life is that important?  Public communications?

So you didn't get to the donut shop and you couldnt call for a delivery? 

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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21859663 - 06/26/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Iraq would be ultimate butt hurt for him.. He'd scream oppression of his rights and get his head chopped off




So, you're trying to say that american citizens should be treated like the people in war torn occupied Iraqi cities? I think the standards are a little different, and you're fear of 19 year old terrorists shouldn't change that.

And I, or my many armed neighbors, would shoot back before anyone got anywhere close to cutting my head off. This is america after all. We're not supposed to be pussies.


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he acts like there wasnt multiple shootouts in one night in boston, which never happens here

shit got fucking real that night. the whole city got shut down. and this dudes bitching about a violation of rights? who needs rights when youre fucking dead?

dude shud go move to fucking iraq




Living people need rights. Like all those people in the city they shut down. It's probably a big waste of time to try to discuss what happens when the balance between safety and security get's tipped. Some of what happens in Iraq could be a decent example though. Maybe you should talk to some people that have actually lived there.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21859676 - 06/26/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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i cant believe the mods are just letting you troll

thanks for being a tattle tail too. please notice your reporting me didnt do shit either





I honestly didn't report you, man. I can fight my own battles, petty as they may be. I'm not even offended. I can see why you think it'd be me, but it wasn't :shrug:. I'm glad the snitching failed though.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21859678 - 06/26/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Iraq would be ultimate butt hurt for him.. He'd scream oppression of his rights and get his head chopped off




So, you're trying to say that american citizens should be treated like the people in war torn occupied Iraqi cities? I think the standards are a little different, and you're fear of 19 year old terrorists shouldn't change that.

And I, or my many armed neighbors, would shoot back before anyone got anywhere close to cutting my head off. This is america after all. We're not supposed to be pussies.


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he acts like there wasnt multiple shootouts in one night in boston, which never happens here

shit got fucking real that night. the whole city got shut down. and this dudes bitching about a violation of rights? who needs rights when youre fucking dead?

dude shud go move to fucking iraq




Living people need rights. Like all those people in the city they shut down. It's probably a big waste of time to try to discuss what happens when the balance between safety and security get's tipped. Some of what happens in Iraq could be a decent example though. Maybe you should talk to some people that have actually lived there.





Dude you have to be trolling, your logic leads to nothing else.

Cops can probably never do anything right in your eyes.


Did you have to go through this?



or this?



or this?






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