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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21855150 - 06/25/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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way when that was supposedly the same thing that lead to this




do you believe it's possible that the thing "that lead to this" was his misinterpretation of the teachings?  or perhaps someone teaching him things that arent even in the quran


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: k00laid] * 1
    #21855185 - 06/25/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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k00laid said:
do you believe it's possible that the thing "that lead to this" was his misinterpretation of the teachings?




No, that is not possible.  There is no such thing as "misinterpretation" in this respect.  There is only different interpretations.  To claim an interpretation is a misinterpretation necessarily requires there to be a correct interpretation which necessarily requires that the god of the religon does exist and does have an intent for its teachings.  Only a believer can logically claim that the interpretation is a misinterpretation.  Otherwise, there are just different kinds of interpretations.  Some we may like, some we may not like - but none are correct or incorrect, they are interpretations that every person chooses for themselves. 

You cant misinterpret a false religion's teachings any more than you can like the wrong food for your favorite type of food.  There is no right or wrong, its personal preference.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21855191 - 06/25/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think he is still under the influence of the same people who lead him and his brother to commit these inhuman acts.




We are all always under the influence of the people in our lives.  That is not an excuse at all, its a recognition of a way that monsters are created.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: DieCommie]
    #21855245 - 06/25/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, but my idealistic side thinks he is capable of doing more to acknowledge where he went wrong.  I wouldn't really expect that from someone gullible enough to go down this road, but I would still like to see what I would consider genuine remorse where what he is saying now feel to me like just fulfilling the bare minimum of what is culturally appropriate.

I'd like it if he had the courage to stand up for what is right, but of course then this probably never would have happened.  As it stands I personally can't forgive him on any level.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: DieCommie]
    #21855295 - 06/25/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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requires there to be a correct interpretation which necessarily requires that the god of the religon does exist




no it doesnt.

i can write a fiction story about a fucking talking dinosaur, and i as the writer know the correct interpretation, and you as the reader do not.  therefore you have the possibility to incorrectly interpret the story.


your logic is flawed.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: k00laid]
    #21855344 - 06/25/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The writer is god through long dead people.  Only a believer can logically appeal to god's intention.

Why do you believe his interpretation is incorrect?  Do you know the author and the author's intent?  If not then you cannot say the interpretation is wrong just because you personally don't like it.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: DieCommie]
    #21855429 - 06/25/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

His family was basically given free money to come over here too


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Patlal]
    #21855444 - 06/25/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't care about that kid. He'll be dead soon anyway



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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21855449 - 06/25/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: k00laid]
    #21855454 - 06/25/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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way when that was supposedly the same thing that lead to this




do you believe it's possible that the thing "that lead to this" was his misinterpretation of the teachings?  or perhaps someone teaching him things that arent even in the quran




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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21857052 - 06/25/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

His lawyers coached him to say that as set up for the appeal. Not that it'll matter. Fuck that guy. I don't care if he was as involved as his brother or not. He participated in the murder & maiming of many people. Fuck him.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21857069 - 06/25/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't care what happens to this shit stain. Justice was served as much as it could be given the circumstances.

I would much rather see him isolated in that ADX prison or whatever it is. That is a punishment much worse than death.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Herbologist]
    #21857136 - 06/25/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Im sure hes so sorry.  Fuck him, boil in pigs blood.





True, he deserves worse. I can't say for sure that he isn't remorseful however I doubt it.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21859388 - 06/26/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Im sure hes so sorry.  Fuck him, boil in pigs blood.





True, he deserves worse. I can't say for sure that he isn't remorseful however I doubt it.





You're right, we cant say FOR SURE he isn't but that leads me to what Dark Star said.


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His lawyers coached him to say that as set up for the appeal. Not that it'll matter. Fuck that guy. I don't care if he was as involved as his brother or not. He participated in the murder & maiming of many people. Fuck him.




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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21859425 - 06/26/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you feel justice has been served?  What are your feelings regarding Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his dead brother?



There's no denying he did it, so of course justice has been served. I don't care for the death penalty, especially in the current state it's in now, however.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21859427 - 06/26/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.




The response was ludicrous. I can't remember how many thousands of police officers they had out looking for one guy (might have been 9000 or something like that), but it was a huge over reaction. They basically shut a whole city down and confined people to their homes while they searched for him. I was living in a suburb of boston at the time, and I was way more afraid of the police coming in to fuck up my neighborhood than I was of some stupid kid who was trying to hide from an army of overpowered cops.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: D.M.T]
    #21859434 - 06/26/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

None of us can really know if justice was served.  Don't lie.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21859439 - 06/26/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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As for my feelings on him, I don't really care to be honest. I know I'm supposed to be all like "OMG he's a terrorist piece of shit do all kinds of horrible things to him" but nope. He could die today or rot in prison for the rest of his life and it wouldn't make any difference to me. Once he was caught you already knew his life was over one way or another. It's not as if he stood any chance of being found not guilty. I know we have due process and that everyone has to be treated according to it, but honestly the trial was a colossal waste of time. Should've just stamped "Guilty" on his forehead as he was being put in the patrol car and jumped straight to sentencing.



If we didn't go through the trial, the precedent this could set against future due process for others would be unjust. Everyone deserves a trial.


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21859465 - 06/26/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.




The response was ludicrous. I can't remember how many thousands of police officers they had out looking for one guy (might have been 9000 or something like that), but it was a huge over reaction. They basically shut a whole city down and confined people to their homes while they searched for him. I was living in a suburb of boston at the time, and I was way more afraid of the police coming in to fuck up my neighborhood than I was of some stupid kid who was trying to hide from an army of overpowered cops.




Are you seriously complaining that cops were out looking for a most likely armed terrorist?  Good lord :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: 'I am guilty and I am sorry' [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21859470 - 06/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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they shut down cell phone towers too so nobody outside of boston was able to contact their friends/family inside the city



That should scare anyone more than some nutjob blowing up a foot race.





yeah it was alarming

they did it tho cuz no one had any clue wtf was going on and cell phones can be triggers for bombs so they turned em all off in boston so no bombs could be triggered

my dad works like in the heart of the city and i had a couple real close friends in boston for either the red sox or Bruins that day

normall my dad gets home at like 4 and he got home at like 11 or 12 that night


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