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oontribe

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marijuana alternative.
#21853753 - 06/25/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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what planets can you grow and serve as a marijuana alternative? well so far i have found Leonotis leonorus and yopo
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: oontribe]
#21853768 - 06/25/15 04:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yopo does not sound like a good marijuana alternative. I use kratom to chill out, also good for work in small doses.
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damaiana, low dose of salvia(very diff. effects tho), dream herb, catnip I heard can give u a buzz, kava kava.
Also maybe look into yerba mate and green tea, in high doses, meaning putting a few bags into one cup, the buzz compares to marijuana without the memory loss.
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oontribe

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mixing the yerba mate with green tea? anyway iam looking for something to grow. thanks man.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: oontribe]
#21853831 - 06/25/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tagetes lucida, or other Tagetes spp., are known to produce some sort of high when smoked.
There has not been any scientific research into these plants, but they may contain some salvinorin-a -like substances. Some mexicans use it as entheogen. The plants are sold wordwide.
Turnera diffusa (Damiana) is good for taste and expectorant when beeing smoked, but there's no buzz. A hot damiana tea tastes great btw.
If you want to get sleepy and heavy smoke a big passionflower(-tea) -joint. 
There is no marihuana-like substituite. Every plant has it's own distinctive effect.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: oontribe]
#21853835 - 06/25/15 05:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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theres a plant thats called something like little marijuana thats legal...
well hold on let me find the link....
http://www.smokableherbs.com/category/all-herbs/depressant-alike/
http://www.smokableherbs.com/category/all-herbs/stimulant-alike/
http://www.smokableherbs.com/category/all-herbs/hallucinogens/
i like that page, it gives you a lot of info
the mini-marijuana one is under depressants i believe but its not on the first page, the page numbers are hidden at the bottom only the active page is lit for me, bad layout... shows on mouseover tho.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: rxb]
#21853872 - 06/25/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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mixing the yerba mate with green tea?
U wouldn't necessarily need to mix them, either in high doses would have the same effect which is (stimulating but relaxing) and u could probably order the seeds online if u wanted to grow them.
key is that u have to take use a few tea bags to make sure u really feel it. Also turns out that both of these herbs are super healthy
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oontribe

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but alot of caffeine lol
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: oontribe]
#21853993 - 06/25/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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none of these new things have the *CENTURIES* of usage behind them that cannabis does. Even though we're still figuring it out, we have a much stronger grasp than these new hipster (yes, I know i'll get flamed for using that word) plants.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: meowshroom]
#21854015 - 06/25/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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kava, salvia, and green tea have been used for centuries in different parts of the world
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mixing the yerba mate with green tea?
U wouldn't necessarily need to mix them, either in high doses would have the same effect which is (stimulating but relaxing) and u could probably order the seeds online if u wanted to grow them.
key is that u have to take use a few tea bags to make sure u really feel it. Also turns out that both of these herbs are super healthy
I'm gonna try this today, the problem is that I drink tea everyday and mate very often, I'd probably have to drink a lot of both to feel something, don't know if my stomach can take it
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: meowshroom]
#21854498 - 06/25/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: none of these new things have the *CENTURIES* of usage behind them that cannabis does. Even though we're still figuring it out, we have a much stronger grasp than these new hipster (yes, I know i'll get flamed for using that word) plants.
First of all cannabis has been used for *THOUSANDS* of years not centuries.
Second so have many other plants...
Not sure if you are being serious or what point you were trying to make...
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oontribe

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so how did it feel NachitoCumbia btw i just got myself some dried yarrow flower dried leaves gonna give a report later.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: oontribe]
#21856633 - 06/25/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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oontribe said: so how did it feel NachitoCumbia btw i just got myself some dried yarrow flower dried leaves gonna give a report later.
I ran out of green tea, and my cup to drink mate (also called mate) is broken I can give you my thoughts on mate though, I have been drinking it for the past 5 years or so, be careful with drinking to much of it, it can give you severe stomach pains if you drink more than 2 tea-pots or if you're not used to it. Two of my friends got bored one day and drunk 15 tea-pots... it's not nice.
I recommend the mate if you want some caffeine-like boost, it's nicer for me than coffee, and if you get used to it's bitter taste (I never drink it with sugar, it's like a sin) you can really enjoy it and get used to strong-taste stuff (I have read that cacti's taste is really bitter and strong, haven't tried it yet, if it's taste is anything like mate I'm going in the right direction).
I'll try to remember to buy some green tea tomorrow and see how it goes And I'm looking forward for the yarrow flower's report.
Now that I remember, try making yourself a lettuce tea, it doesn't give you any effect while you're awake, but it gives good lucid dreams (or maybe it was just a placebo effect, but who knows, didn't hurt to try it out).
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Drinking mate is good for being very very awake. It is not a good pot alternative. You will wish you had weed to bring you down. It gets me bouncing off the walls. lol
I like dream herb, and I've grown the plant. Cute little things. You should give those a shot. It can be drank throughout the day for calming feelings, and if drank before bed, it inspires lucid dreams while you sleep. Yeah, it's pretty sweet like that. Good luck on your search.
Oh yeah, kratom's pretty tight. And it's pretty cheap, too. All of the red strains (like red bali) give you a calming feeling. Try one of the shroomery vendors.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: space walk]
#21856714 - 06/25/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can anyone even drink a SMALL amount of calea tea without barfing, let alone throughout the day?
Even the tiniest bit of leaf is horribly bitter!
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: space walk]
#21856717 - 06/25/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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space walk said: Drinking mate is good for being very very awake. It is not a good pot alternative.
I know. People suggesting mate as an alternative must not smoke marijuana. Terrible suggestion in my book.
I haven't got much more than that to add. I've yet to find a replacement for good ol' fashioned mary jane.
Kava kava is ok to relax though. Kratom's also ok but they're not substitutes in my opinion.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: karode13]
#21856752 - 06/25/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just started using kratom. I like it. It's sedating. But I hear it's addictive, so I'm taking it slow. Not a good pot alternative if you're planning to use it every day. But good for "every now and then"s.
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: karode13]
#21856895 - 06/25/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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karode13 said:
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space walk said: Drinking mate is good for being very very awake. It is not a good pot alternative.
I know. People suggesting mate as an alternative must not smoke marijuana. Terrible suggestion in my book.
I haven't got much more than that to add. I've yet to find a replacement for good ol' fashioned mary jane.
I don't think there's really an alternative to marijuana. Here we drink mate as we smoke joints, sharing it with friends and ingesting a lot. When you get used to drinking so much mate the effects change drastically, If I drink it now is to chill for a while, I like to drink it while I smoke tobbacco, it doesn't leave me jumping or anything near, but it's not like pot either.
For me mate is a replacemente for marihuana, mostly for the fact that it's preparation and ingestion is somewhat a ritual, like drinking absinthe, at least around here.
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space walk
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hell, drink absinthe and grow poppies
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karode13 said:
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space walk said: Drinking mate is good for being very very awake. It is not a good pot alternative.
I know. People suggesting mate as an alternative must not smoke marijuana. Terrible suggestion in my book.
I haven't got much more than that to add. I've yet to find a replacement for good ol' fashioned mary jane.
I don't think there's really an alternative to marijuana. Here we drink mate as we smoke joints, sharing it with friends and ingesting a lot. When you get used to drinking so much mate the effects change drastically, If I drink it now is to chill for a while, I like to drink it while I smoke tobbacco, it doesn't leave me jumping or anything near, but it's not like pot either.
For me mate is a replacemente for marihuana, mostly for the fact that it's preparation and ingestion is somewhat a ritual, like drinking absinthe, at least around here.
There's no substitute for weed. Weed is weed. There are other things you can try instead, but they won't satisfy if the weed high is what you're after. Smoking some opium is an OK substitute but I'd honestly still prefer marijuana. It has a very unique blend of psychedelic, muscle relaxant, euphoriant and pain relief qualities that really can't be duplicated by anything else.
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oontribe

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Yarrow is good not bad...kinda weak. it makes you high epically the first joint...you dont get the paranoia and over thinking like THC stuff. would like to try st.john
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Re: marijuana alternative. [Re: oontribe]
#21860679 - 06/26/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kratom is probably the only good alternative I can think of.
I prefer it over cannabis for some reasons and any addiction or WD I have had from it are comparable to the psychological effects I get from cannabis, or coffee. Cannabis is even harder for me to stop in some ways, and even sugar I find more addicting.
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