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Why can I not get high from edibles? * 2
    #21853610 - 06/25/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

This is science related I guess... I'm just wondering if there's any biology experts or whatever in here that can shed some light on this because it's been perplexing me for a while.
Really, I would just like a logical/scientific explanation for why this happens.. or even just a guess.
Please don't tell me the edibles are bunk or weak or the people making them don't know what they are doing because that is not the case at all. (see below).

I'm just going to copy and paste what I posted in another thread:

I've been smoking pot for ~20 years now, pretty much daily, although I do take tolerance breaks every once in a while.
Even when I have a high tolerance, I can still get high just fine by smoking.

Over the years, I have eaten hundreds of different kinds of edibles.. at every stage of my cannabis use..
and they hardly effect me at ALL. I have never ONCE been blazed from edibles. At MOST, I get a VERY light.. mild buzz.

People always say oh you are just getting bunk or super weak edibles.. the people making them aren't doing them right.. yadda yadda blah blah... no.

- I have eaten numerous firecrackers made with 1-4g of top shelf kush - they do nothing. Meanwhile I can smoke a single bowl of that SAME WEED and get high.

- I have eaten numerous "super potent" edibles from dispensaries in EVERY form you can imagine - they all do practically nothing. Gummi bears, cookies, rice krispie treats, tinctures, chocolates, etc etc etc. It's a complete waste. The exact same edibles - other people can eat half of one and get zombified couch locked high as shit for 6-8 hours. I eat three to four times as many as they do and feel almost nothing.

- 1,000 mg THC bhang bars - I can eat 2 or 3 of them and might catch a super slight buzz

- I have eaten numerous batches of homemade brownies made with premium cannabutter that a grower friend made. Everyone else gets high as shit from one. I eat three... Almost Nothing.
One friend put an OUNCE of top shelf in a small batch of brownies. Other people eat a quarter of ONE and get completely fried. I eat four or five of them and barely catch a buzz.

- My crazy pot scientist friend makes SUPER potent brownies... warns you "be careful bro.. only eat HALF or a QUARTER of one and don't have anything planned for the rest of the day... "
I'll eat three or four of them, they are hard to get down because they taste so strongly of herb.... catch the lightest buzz possible, barely even noticeable. Other people eat half of the same brownies and can't move


- I've had a professional "pot chef" make me some cannabis food - nothing.

I've challenged people to make me an edible that can get me high. No one has been able to do it. I've been trying to like 15 years or something.
An edible that everyone else says will get them completely fucked up, I can literally eat 5x as many as them, and barely even catch a tiny light buzz.
That's the most I have EVER gotten from edibles... a SUPER light body buzz.. barely even noticeable. Every single time I feel like I got jipped. But it's just my biology it seems.
I have tried taking a tolerance break for 3+ weeks, they still do nothing. Then I take one hit from a bong and get fried.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the potency of the edibles or my tolerance. They can be the strongest edibles in the world and I could have zero tolerance and it would be the same thing.

It is a complete and absolute waste of weed for me to consume edibles. They do basically nothing for me.

We aren't talking an isolated incident or two with someone that didn't know what they were doing. I am talking about hundreds of different attempts, of some of the most potent edibles you can make.
Believe me, I have tried... HARD. It has taken me many years and hundreds of attempts and experimentation to come to this conclusion. I'm practically immune from edibles.

For whatever weird reason... eating weed does not really effect me at all. Which sucks. Because I want to feel that lasting, super deep body high that everyone talks about from edibles..
But it's impossible for me. It doesn't matter what my tolerance is like.
It's my liver.. my metabolism.. something with my body chemistry... I have no fucking clue what causes it.. but eating weed does nothing for me. So I just stick to smoking/vaping it. Works like a charm, every time.

In all my time here, I've only found one or two people on the shroomery here that have the same issue. It's extremely rare, but it happens for some reason.

I would really love to find a scientific explanation for why this happens. We need more studies on this.

(Note in case it's relevant.. I am not overweight by any means, in fact I am skinny. I am 6'2 and 175lbs)


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21853621 - 06/25/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Thats weird as hell man.
The Russians taught me how make this concentrated bhang (milk) stuff thats so potent its practically poisonous.... 
Ive seen disasters from it


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Oeric McKenna] * 1
    #21853624 - 06/25/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I have tried bhang bars too. Multiple times.... multiple bars too.. Same thing. I'm a freak of nature :sad:


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21853627 - 06/25/15 02:53 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

A 4th of a bhang bar will get me beyond lit haha edibles will get me stupid high for hours


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21853630 - 06/25/15 02:54 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah same with everyone else.... I could eat 4 of those bars and maybe... maybe catch a light buzz.

... then I can go and take a bong hit and get high instantly.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21853635 - 06/25/15 02:56 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Have you tried the 51\50 bars? I believe they're like 60 something doses


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21853640 - 06/25/15 03:01 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think so on those particular ones... but I have essentially tried edibles that strong or even stronger before. I mean I've eaten some pretty ridiculous quantities of super potent edibles. I doubt they would be any different.

I'll give them a try if I see them at my dispensary... but yeah I have big doubts. I'm convinced it's something with my body. It has nothing to do with how potent the edibles are.

I got reminded of it after reading this article - http://www.marketwatch.com/story/i-tried-edible-marijuana-and-felt-nothing-2015-03-11
And I'm thinking that guy has the same issue. He's blaming the potency and consistency of the product. But edible companies don't sell completely bunk edibles...
But it made me think back to all the HUNDREDS of times I have tried dosing edible cannabis, even QUADRUPLING or MORE the dose normal people take.

This has been going on for years now. I've tried just about everything out there. I'm just trying to figure out WHY.. it's really weird.
I can smoke it and get high as shit. I can eat the shit all day long and feel basically nothing.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21858277 - 06/26/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not alone - http://www.reddit.com/r/eldertrees/comments/2purbf/i_have_never_experienced_any_effect_from_edibles/

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I've been a budtender for 6 years now, so I've had time to notice this in people.

Seems about 5%, maybe less, of folks just get no effect from edibles, regardless of dose. I'm one of them myself. I've eaten 300mg of THC with 0 effect.

/u/Brutal_Peacemaker has, in my opinion, the best theory on why that is. It seems the most likely culprit is some difference with our digestive system. It might be a problem with liver metabolism/first pass. It might be the lack of an enzyme that helps digest it.

One time I got a mild buzz from 75mg THC, and that was when I ate the edible 45min after a huge meal. I was stuffed, and ate the edible on top of it, and an hour later I felt a definite onset- much stronger than my previous 100mg+ experiences.

I've wasted hundreds of dollars trying to get edibles to work, taking quintuple doses and whatnot. I've given up, and just don't bother anymore.

You should know the vast majority of people will start to feel THC at a 10mg dose, and most experienced smokers with a tolerance tend to like 20-50mg doses.

Someone suggested I take lipase supplements with the edibles to see if it helps (lipase is an enzyme that can break down fatty substances) but I have not tried that yet.





Digestive system or enzymes or liver... that seems to make the most sense and that's always what I have assumed. 

Lipase supplements are something I have not tried... so I'm going to give that a try sometime.

Also mangos are proven to potentiate cannabis significantly when eaten 45mins - 1hr before before smoking. So I'm going to try that with edibles.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21859057 - 06/26/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

1.  Science doesn't prove, it explains.
2.  Where is it explained how mango's potentiate Cannabis?  If you have any sources I'd be interested in reading them.

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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Byrain]
    #21859413 - 06/26/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Here ya go 
http://www.theweedblog.com/mangos-increase-the-effects-of-consuming-marijuana/
http://www.medicaldaily.com/mangoes-elevate-high-smoking-marijuana-are-they-healthier-alternative-munchies-247892
http://berkeleypatientscare.com/2010/10/08/terpenes-terpenoids-and-cannabis/

It has to do with the myrcene terpenes in mangoes allowing THC to pass the blood brain barrier much faster.. resulting in the high hitting faster and lasting longer.
It definitely works for smoking, so I assume it would work for edibles as well, but maybe not. The lipase thing sounds like a good idea.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21859446 - 06/26/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Cool idea, I'll read the link tonight.

Edibles do nothing for me either, I have given up on them.

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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: DieCommie]
    #21859497 - 06/26/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I've not completely given up just yet.... I am determined. The lipase supplement thing sounds logical enough.. I will give that a try next time and see if it does anything.

But if that and mangoes doesn't work... then yeah I give up.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21862942 - 06/27/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Have you tried a sublingual tincture?  (alcohol extract).
I know it's not quite a brownie or something but I've had good results holding a strong tincture under the tongue for 5-10 min before swallowing, although edibles do work for me, so it's not the best comparison.

I agree with Shroomism, it's possible enzymes are screwing you over.
Another possibility is digestion time.
I've found pot can build a strong temporary tolerance, if your body is digesting the THC slower than it builds tolerance, it might lead to nothing.
However, given the amount you have thrown at it, it's clear something is making sure it doesn't go from your stomach to brain.

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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: StygianKnight]
    #21864565 - 06/27/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah tinctures are the same deal. I've also tried various things to potentiate it like alcohol, coconut oil etc etc.
Only things I haven't really tried that seems worth it is the mango thing and lipase supplements. So that's worth a go at least.
I used to think I was just a complete freak of nature, but now I know at least some other people have the exact same issue.
I would be interested to know exactly why this occurs. It's quite a strange thing. Now that cannabis is becoming more and more accepted hopefully we will get more studies.

I am guessing my metabolism has something to do with it. I have always had a SUPER crazy metabolism. I can pretty much eat whatever I want without gaining weight and it has always been this way, I'm 33 now and it hasn't really slowed down much at all. I also often sweat profusely at night when I sleep... as in wake up and the blankets are completely drenched in sweat.. I am a hot sleeper.. but I almost never get sick. Haven't been sick in about 12 years. But there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the sweating thing, regardless of the temperatures. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. Maybe it's after I've been eating too much junk food or something and my body needs to get purge all the toxins, dunno.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21867476 - 06/28/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Hm, strange. I dunno Shroo. Maybe you have some unique gut bugs that gobble up THC.

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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21868853 - 06/28/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

It is a very different high for me as well, I find to actually get lit from edibles I have to take so much that it isn't even fun, more of I have had to piss for two hours but too lazy to get up and do it feeling.

I only use them that I make myself for things like movies ect. But it only is to supplement the buzz I have, standalone it feels like a waste.

Ime club edibles are weak due to liability of idiots eating too much and having bad things happen.

Nothing like that combustion of a bong rip.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #21881995 - 07/01/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Dude that's crazy. Could it be because of the method of ingestion? Maybe weed has a more intense effect smoked than orally. Sort of like DMT in a way, haha.

I have a hard time getting high with edibles too, if I can taste the weed in it more than I can the edible itself I know I'll get high. This one time a buddy of mine had inherited a kilo from a friend that was growing. He would help the guy out each week and come back with an oz every Friday, it was awesome cause he smoked me out all the time haha. The guy moved to Oregon though, so he had to leave behind a lot of his weed. So my friend and I decided to make most of this kilo of primo headband buds into cannabutter over at another friends house, I had school that morning though, so they started without me. I arrived at the house in the afternoon and walked in the kitchen to help. There were two trays of brownies laying on the stove, my friends being pranksters told me one, which had no brownies missing from it had weed in it, and the other didnt. so I ate two brownies. Started helping them, taking a smoke break or two in between, and eating another 2 brownies (I was very fat at the time lol). well while pouring off the finished cannabutter he spilled a little bit and dared me to eat the small bit off the counter. It was about a spoonfull, I didnt think that was shit so I did. He said that amount was probably gonna get me very lit, so I upped the game and grabbed two more brownies and dipped them in the crockpot of cannabutter and ate both of them, and then they revealed that the brownies had weed in them. After that I rushed home and blacked out lmao


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: grownright]
    #21893341 - 07/03/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I've never felt much from eating edibles, even smoking (after vaping herb for 5 yrs) cannabis doesn't hit me like vaping does.

I get a lot more benefit from vaping now than smoking, where as smoking use to get me really high and was a really effective method for consuming.

Unless the herb is mixed with keef, I don't get as much of an effect as I feel I should.


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Re: Why can I not get high from edibles? [Re: Atreyu]
    #21909350 - 07/07/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I don't get high from edibles either.  I get very high from just 1 toke of good weed, I feel
it before I blow the smoke out.

Alcohol made me feel great and help me sleep when I was young, now it depresses me
and gives me insomnia.

Its been 25 years since I tripped, if I ever get shrooms I wonder how that will make me feel.

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    #22005531 - 07/27/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I cant seem to get high from edibles either. I've tried home made, professional cookies, and the tincture. Never felt anything from any of them except for the last time. I made firecrackers with ~2g of some dank. Felt the smallest buzz for maybe an hour. Then the next day at work we ate lunch like normal. I think it was a potbelly's sandwich. After lunch I get up to use the bathroom. Mid piss I realize that all of the sudden I'm fucking blitzed. I work construction so being high at work isnt really an issue but I almost told my boss i was too fucked up and I was going home cause I could barely stand or talk. It lasted about an hour and a half and then I was back sober.

I dont really understand. I had practically no tolerance at the time. But then again I didnt get high the first time I smoked either. At least now I know im not the only one.

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