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LordOrochimaru
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Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea
#21852708 - 06/24/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello fellow shroomerites! I have an idea I'd like to run past all of you guys. I've been doing research on different types of grow methods and stumbled upon Mycobags. After some information gathering on these bags, I found you could fruit in them in the bag, the yield expected is about 50-75% of a cake the same size, and they are pretty low maintenance (mist/fan is all). So I thought up an idea.
You could have a taller opaque Sterilite tub or the like. I could hydrate some brf to slightly lower than it should be, and use a lot of sterile, good liquid culture. I've had jars colonize with a liquid culture in 5-7 days. I'd have one fruiting chamber with two levels and perlite lining the bottom. I'd hook a small cpu fan up to move air when its fruiting. To fruit id simply cut the tops of the bags off.
Meanwhile, Id have an opaque sterilite tub elsewhere to hold colonizing bags in it. The cycle could produce several ounces a week, and enough cakes to bury outdoors to supply you and a few friends with spirit fruit for lifetimes to come.
Someone should do this, or I could, but it'd be a while. I'd make a log if I did. It seems like a relatively easy way to do some decent crops.
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SteveRogers
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13431948/page/1
This man is a WIZARD. Follow his advice. Sclerotia require nothing out in the open or large appliances like a flowhood or PC. IF you MUST do this discreetly (which I highly highly advise against) just do ATL #7 or Mex. A and you will find what you are seeking without the hassle and exposure.
Don't hide manufacturing felonies from those you live with. It's not fair.
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: SteveRogers]
#21852812 - 06/24/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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"I'd hook a small cpu fan up to move air when its fruiting."
Dont do this man, you cant provide FAE with a fan. Actually if youre fruiting inside the bags I dont see any need for an external fruiting chamber.
Really dude if youre looking for better yeilds definitly time to move past BRF man. Move on to bulk growing.
If you have to hide a grow from people in your own house you probably shouldn't be growing at all
I dunno man Im pretty sure stones require at least a pressure cooker, you usually grow stones on grains
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SteveRogers
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: mushpunx]
#21852828 - 06/24/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was referring to pre sterilized media. Sclerotia do the best on Rye Berries for me. Rye Grass Seed is big for some, but Rye Berries will not let you down.
Yes doing anything except straight PF cakes will require either a pressure cooker or a credit card to place an order with out-grow.com this gentleman
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LordOrochimaru
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: SteveRogers]
#21852853 - 06/24/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No I do not have to hide this from anyone;I own my own house, but I don't think the first thing I would want to tell a girl I have over is that I dabble in the cultivation of felonious substances. This can also be applied to relatives, neighbors, and really anyone who is inside of your house. I think a monotub would stick out like a sore thumb.
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SteveRogers
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Yeah I agree. Never explain that to ANYONE. Ever.
If you really own your own HOUSE and are intelligent enough to be participating on this board and in this hobby. You can troubleshoot the very small amount of time you have people over and fruit a monotub that takes up less than 4 square feet of space with surprising results.
Good luck to you sir. I certainly understand your position.
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Edited by SteveRogers (06/24/15 10:18 PM)
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LordOrochimaru
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: SteveRogers]
#21852936 - 06/24/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said: Yeah I agree. Never explain that to ANYONE. Ever.
If you really own your own HOUSE and are intelligent enough to be participating on this board and in this hobby. You can troubleshoot the very small amount of time you have people over and fruit a monotub that takes up less than 4 square feet of space with surprising results.
Good luck to you sir. I certainly understand your position.
This is just a possible solution for those who let relatives stay when they visit, etc. Come to think of it, I think a tub stuffed with sclerotia hard could do the same. Either way, you could do some nice yeilds with a small, inconspicuous amount of space.
Edited by LordOrochimaru (06/24/15 10:39 PM)
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mushpunx
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Mabye I dont understand Why does a monotub stick out any more than a bunch of grow bags in a fruiting chamber with petlite and fans?
Monotubs can be opaque as long as they have a little window on top or the side somewhere. Virtually no maintenance, you can just leave it alone somewhere while its fruiting.
But lots of people fruit in spawn bags. There are much better options tham BRF though. Check out Muda's bottle tek that can be done in bags, or you can mix your grain spawn and sub in spawn bags over trays or tubs.
Really, like said above the most practical way to do a stealth grow is to grow truffles. They never leave the jars. You just prep your grain in jars with GE lid like any typical spawn jar, inoculate and leave them alone untill harvest except for maybe a shake.
as long as they are getting adequate gas exchange and preferably a little light you can just leave the jars on a shelf or in a box, under your bed in the closet amywhere. If you stagger your spawn production enough you can have a harvest every week
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: mushpunx] 1
#21854336 - 06/25/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Captain Future had some stellar bag grows. If your looking for stealth grow stones. Those can be stored on a shelf in your closet where no one can see them.
If you don't have a PC and are looking for invitro/stealth grows they're out there. This one was a invitro brf cake. All I did after colonized was loosen the lid a bit.

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Sksoul
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: Grey]
#21854392 - 06/25/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the best stealth grow is sclerotia, but the best sclerotia will never be the best grow.
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SteveRogers
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: Sksoul]
#21854561 - 06/25/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15773551
Been trying to isolate a strain that does something similar to this for a good while now. The stones I have managed to produce are much stronger than any Cubensis fruit body I have ever consumed.
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Edited by SteveRogers (06/25/15 02:48 PM)
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mushpunx
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: SteveRogers]
#21855478 - 06/25/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yow are going abouyt stabalizing it?
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SteveRogers
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: mushpunx]
#21855501 - 06/25/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushpunx: maybe that's the wrong term...I'm doing somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 agar plates with potential candidates actually forming masses on the agar itself. I have fully grown out and cloned probably another 50 specimens which are just sitting on slants waiting to be run through another few generations to see if the trait reemerges. I won't get into the issues I have had with some of the more promising clones, but lets say they were still inferior genetically.
Honestly I need help. But i don't want to hijack this guys thread for it.
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Edited by SteveRogers (06/25/15 02:45 PM)
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: SteveRogers]
#21855821 - 06/25/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Start a thread. I'm into that stuff. I'm about to do the same with Pan. Subbalteatus.
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mushpunx
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Re: Stealth Invitro Mycobag Idea [Re: Grey]
#21856952 - 06/25/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Grey said: Start a thread. I'm into that stuff. I'm about to do the same with Pan. Subbalteatus.
sounds cool!
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