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how azur gets down on straw * 6
    #21852646 - 06/24/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Evening ya'll
ya like straw
Here's another how to do
but it's nothing new

If you're feeling groovy
select your favorite movie
And a hit from your bowl
To soothe your soul

Straw time bitches.

A chipper shredder is a wonderful piece of machinery. Get on craigslist and buy one now. It shreds the fuck out of straw. Infinitely better than chopping by hand. The kind of stuff myc loves.

When you've got enough to fill a mesh laundry bag, load it up. Put it in your pot and fill it above the straw line with hot water. Now take the straw out and get the water to 160 degrees. Once at temp, Put the straw back in for 30-45 min. After that, pull it out and let it drain. An hour or so later, spread it out on a table and mix it with spawn. Then load it into bags, trays, or tubs.
If using bags, seal it up and then poke holes every few inches. Once colonized, put into fruiting.
If using trays or monotubs, pack it in tight. The chipper shredder gets the straw really fine so a weight is not needed.
Here are a few pics. I'll load more when i have fruits. These are pink and king oysters.



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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852655 - 06/24/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

:cheer:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Buck513]
    #21852702 - 06/24/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I need one of them, just need a place to put it :lol:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21852715 - 06/24/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Do you still pack the straw down real tight if you're mixing it with other sub's?


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21852734 - 06/24/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah I need one of them, just need a place to put it :lol:



They're about the same size as a wife/slash girlfriend, but much heavier (hopefully)  So ditch the bitch. Really though, I'm including some of the straw in your package. When you see it, you'll buy one and a shed to put it in that day. It's THAT nice. And oh so fast. And it turns hpoo balls into powder instantly.


Yes buck. Still pack. But this straw won't pop back up like hand cut straw will.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852748 - 06/24/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I really like this! Its nice and simple. I had heard that cubensis colonizes straw exponentially faster than other substrates. Do you know of any truth to this?


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852750 - 06/24/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Well right now I just run the lawnmower over it. Probably not as good as the chipper tho. But I love me straw. Cheap as borscht and great mushroom food :awesomenod:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852778 - 06/24/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Did you just advocate killing his girlfriend and running her through the chipper, so he has room for the chipper?

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21852788 - 06/24/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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I really like this! Its nice and simple. I had heard that cubensis colonizes straw exponentially faster than other substrates. Do you know of any truth to this?



Ya know, i always thought it was a tad slower, but when it's shredded like this, it actually is faster. Strange.


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Well right now I just run the lawnmower over it. Probably not as good as the chipper tho. But I love me straw. Cheap as borscht and great mushroom food :awesomenod:



Well run that bitch over with the lawn mower. Then she won't be around to tell you to mow the yard. So you trade the mower for a chipper shredder. Problem solved


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852855 - 06/24/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Azur yer a genius :brilliant:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21852863 - 06/24/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852869 - 06/24/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Nice write up, Az. I may have to invest in a chipper when ever I run out of my straw pellets. Straw pellets are even finer than that straw but it would definitely be the next best thing. I'm going to bookmark this for when I need it.

Srirachi, cool avatar, dude. :peace:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: insanemike]
    #21852923 - 06/24/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Nice write up, Az. I may have to invest in a chipper when ever I run out of my straw pellets. Straw pellets are even finer than that straw but it would definitely be the next best thing. I'm going to bookmark this for when I need it.

Srirachi, cool avatar, dude. :peace:




Thanks, I'm just glad Captainpaps isn't mad I put his pic up on the Shroomery!

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852935 - 06/24/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Evening ya'll
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Here's another how to do
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If you're feeling groovy
select your favorite movie
And a hit from your bowl
To soothe your soul

Straw time bitches.
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: shroomyaxn]
    #21852945 - 06/24/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I usually use the lawnmower as well. A tub with a hole cut in the lid and a weed whacker does wonders too. Probably not as fast, but it works well.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21852952 - 06/24/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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azur said:
Quote:

LordOrochimaru said:
I really like this! Its nice and simple. I had heard that cubensis colonizes straw exponentially faster than other substrates. Do you know of any truth to this?



Ya know, i always thought it was a tad slower, but when it's shredded like this, it actually is faster. Strange.



I'd think shredded straw would colonize faster that whole tubes because the mycelium has a solid 5-9 inch straw to grow through as opposed to little 1-2 cm ones


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Srirachi]
    #21853049 - 06/24/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

insanemike said:
Nice write up, Az. I may have to invest in a chipper when ever I run out of my straw pellets. Straw pellets are even finer than that straw but it would definitely be the next best thing. I'm going to bookmark this for when I need it.

Srirachi, cool avatar, dude. :peace:




Thanks, I'm just glad Captainpaps isn't mad I put his pic up on the Shroomery!




:lol: picking on poor 'ol captainpaps.

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: LordOrochimaru]
    #21853052 - 06/24/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

:takingnotes:

I found pre cut straw the other day but I can only assume it is waaaaay cheaper to buy a bale and cut it myself.

Time to add another tool to the myco wish list :facepalm:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Dhearic]
    #21853079 - 06/24/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I got mine on craigslist for $150. It's 20 years old and is a beast. One full size bale ($5) took about 15 min. I did like 200 lbs of hpoo in less than 20 min. You can find used ones for under 300 all day long. Will pay for itself in 10 min


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21853888 - 06/25/15 06:32 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

i do wanna add " i approve of your method"(in a gwb voice)

your straw size is perfect and i often do it just like that :thumbup:

show these kids with leggy straw how its done az. one clown comes to mind who doesn't know how to properly prepare straw. that clown could learn a trick or two by listening to reason.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: eatyualive]
    #21853905 - 06/25/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #21854464 - 06/25/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yo azur, thanks for the straw tek.
Looks like a good way to get the feet wet.
Yer one of the craziest fuckers I'v ever met.
A woodchipper like yours' is what I wanna get.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: hamloaf]
    #21854491 - 06/25/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Oh shit
He done did it
Kill your wife
Better your life
Get a shredder
You'll feel better


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22386642 - 10/16/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stickied for the week, nice write up.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: cronicr]
    #22386736 - 10/16/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:takingnotes::rockon:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Darkhome]
    #22386746 - 10/16/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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A chipper shredder is a wonderful piece of machinery. Get on craigslist and buy one now. It shreds the fuck out of straw. Infinitely better than chopping by hand. The kind of stuff myc loves.



Wanna know what this poor lazy fuckers been using? A garbage can and a weed wacker.

CL is like $2-300 or so. I'm go poor lol


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22386779 - 10/16/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea nice :takingnotes:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22388059 - 10/16/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh shit pasty. I never sent you straw. Damn me. Next time.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22388238 - 10/16/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok.. so you vacuum seal the bags and poke the holes while it's colonizing?  So when you put it in fruiting conditions what exactly do you do with it?

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22388602 - 10/16/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh shit pasty. I never sent you straw. Damn me. Next time.




No worries man, I actually have some already :wink: your chipper does do a nice job on it tho :awesomenod:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22388803 - 10/16/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Do you hold the water at 160F after putting the straw back in or just turn the burner off and let it ride?  Covered or uncovered, so to speak.

Do you put the straw in and take it out to tease the water into getting wetter?


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22388921 - 10/16/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ok.. so you vacuum seal the bags and poke the holes while it's colonizing?  So when you put it in fruiting conditions what exactly do you do with it?



Small scale, either mist it in open air or put a humidity dome (i.e. plastic bag) over it and air and mist a few times a day.
Yes. Vacuum seal then poke holes immediately.



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Do you hold the water at 160F after putting the straw back in or just turn the burner off and let it ride?  Covered or uncovered, so to speak.

Do you put the straw in and take it out to tease the water into getting wetter?



No dunking the straw in and out as the water is too hot and could burn you with splashes.
Once you put the weight on it, air will escape and straw will get saturated 
You may have to turn the burner back on after adding straw as it can lower the temp. If so, once it's stabilized at ideal temp, it will hold for the desired time without a heat source.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22392511 - 10/17/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ya know, i always thought it was a tad slower, but when it's shredded like this, it actually is faster. Strange.




Out of curiosity, what is faster?

I never shredded it but was a hell of a lot faster than rice, or especially a rice flour based substrate.

Or maybe this is just the nature of bulk in general...


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: micro]
    #22392554 - 10/17/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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maybe this is just the nature of bulk in general...





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    #22392602 - 10/17/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

makes sense :thumbup:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: micro]
    #22392670 - 10/17/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What's your typical substrate?


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22393567 - 10/17/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

We always just used pasteurized straw.

It is soooo cheap and was easy to come by.

I never chopped it up though.

It makes sense though why that would colonize faster.

That's why we used parboiled rice to case or make spawn.

It ends up very airy so the mycelium will colonize it more readily.

I found it works much better than a brf based substrate which ends up much less airy.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: micro]
    #22411047 - 10/20/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

pretty sick dude. Just saw a fresh bail i better go grab for my cubies. Cause hey, who can complain with free?

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Ogla]
    #22411312 - 10/20/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's probably someone's Halloween decoration dude!


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22411384 - 10/20/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha,  nah. It's in the manure pile at the local stable. One man's trash is another man's treasure :wink:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Ogla]
    #22424733 - 10/23/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'll grow a straw cube tube for this thread. Update with pics tomorrow.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22424869 - 10/23/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: cronicr]
    #22425821 - 10/24/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ur chipper must be dope dude.  even when i put mine thru twice, it is not that small :frown:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22426338 - 10/24/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes sir. Chipper shredder ftw


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22427334 - 10/24/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Couldn't you just use a blender?


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    #22427340 - 10/24/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Couldn't you just use a blender?




No. Blenders and food processors are no good for that type of job. Them motors burn up very easily. You would litterally be buying a new blender every few days.

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: thewanderer25]
    #22427344 - 10/24/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm sure running a square bale of straw through a blender would take forever.

You should try it though and report back. :thumbup:


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Grey]
    #22428385 - 10/24/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have used a blower/vac. Works good but straw needs run thru twice. Can be messy too.

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    #22428625 - 10/24/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll grow a straw cube tube for this thread. Update with pics tomorrow.



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    #22428712 - 10/24/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Couldn't you just use a blender?



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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: eatyualive]
    #22429395 - 10/24/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What is the benefit of straw though? I know it makes the shrooms bigger but why?


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    #22429655 - 10/24/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What's that mean?


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    #22429662 - 10/24/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i do wanna add " i approve of your method"(in a gwb voice)

your straw size is perfect and i often do it just like that :thumbup:

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    #22429673 - 10/24/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea dude. This straw is lime fluffy cotton candy. Myc LOVES it


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22429711 - 10/24/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If I didn't have access to dust free preshredded straw. I would definitely buy a chipper/shresder.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22429779 - 10/24/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea dude. This straw is lime fluffy cotton candy. Myc LOVES it




Just like my straw pellets. Damn. I'm going to need to get me one of those things when my pellets run out.

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22429939 - 10/24/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If I didn't have access to dust free preshredded straw. I would definitely buy a chipper/shresder.



i know your lucky muda. i want to try some of that straw you have. im not near the boondocks of the americas or else id be able to get some. but unfortunately it isn't available for me.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: insanemike]
    #22429950 - 10/24/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The farm store here has half bales of hay already chopped up for $10. Your suppose to put it on the lawn and water it daily and it makes your lawn grow back. Of course, I'd rather not pay for anything

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    #22429958 - 10/24/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The farm store here has half bales of hay already chopped up for $10. Your suppose to put it on the lawn and water it daily and it makes your lawn grow back. Of course, I'd rather not pay for anything



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    #22430114 - 10/24/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i don't even know how long i've left this thread stickied...fuck it


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: cronicr]
    #22430126 - 10/24/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea. I don't either. Probably 10 days. Give me a few more and I'll get that tub going


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    #22430133 - 10/24/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ok well you get the 2 week special then:lol:


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    #22430134 - 10/24/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Shweet


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22430136 - 10/24/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's a good write up, i bet my 7 year old could read it and pull it off


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    #22430170 - 10/24/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hopefully so. I'll do some work on the op anyways though. And include the tub pics there...since this is cult and all


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    #22430180 - 10/25/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

lol no doubt, i'm still a couple weeks away from needing anymore straw


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    #22432148 - 10/25/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice write up mate. You're giving people the straw boner. :freewilly:


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    #22432451 - 10/25/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: taGyo]
    #22435724 - 10/26/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So i just pasteurized 28 half gallon jars of a different substrate. Water was at 160 when the cycle was done, so i poured it all in another big pot and threw a big laundry bag of straw in it. Time and energy saver. I'll spawn it this afternoon and post a pic


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    #22435732 - 10/26/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All of azur's threads are sticky... I don't even want to think about why...

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    #22435759 - 10/26/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22437092 - 10/26/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So...i mixed up a gt straw tub.
In the OP i explain how to pasteurize the straw.
When building straw tub, you want to do it in layers. Start with straw and end with straw. If your straw is finely chopped like mine, there is no need to weigh it down while colonizing. Just press it down on each layer.
So i did 6 layers of straw and 5 layers of spawn and finished with a layer of coir/verm (just to field capacity, not heat treated).  Added a casing to this tub because i prefer to case all straw tubs.



I had some straw leftover, but not enough for an entire tub. So i mixed it half and half with hpoo/verm. When using straw as an additive, layering is not necessary. Just mix it all up like you would with a coir or hpoo tub. If you have any clumps, be sure to pull em apart.
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22437146 - 10/26/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Added a casing to this tub because i prefer to case all straw tubs.




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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22475062 - 11/04/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Tub 1 all straw with casing
Tub 2 50/straw 50/hpoo&verm
Tubs 3, 4, & 5 hpoo/verm 50/50

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22475074 - 11/04/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and their already pinning? damn bro. thats pretty fast for PE.

EDIT:Btw, I got a bale of straw per recommendation, and its a bitch to chop up.  Tried to rent a chipper/shredder, fucking 300$ deposit and 75 buck an hour for like the first 3 hours.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22475078 - 11/04/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those are gt. My pe are the same speed


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22475088 - 11/04/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

hmm, makes me wonder why mine are so much slower(TC)

Would coir cause this? ive also noticed that the sub doesn't get fully colonized with coir.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22475090 - 11/04/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I like the idea of fruiting right from the get go. I did this by mistake with some of my early grows and they did pretty good. These days I don't fruit until I see pins but maybe I'll it your way fir a few tubs.


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    #22475108 - 11/04/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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hmm, makes me wonder why mine are so much slower(TC)




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    #22475134 - 11/04/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #22475307 - 11/04/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Firsttimer420, sorry dude. That wasn't an attack on you.
Simply put, all the info is out there.
Search my main threads. See how many times it was to ask a question. I can think of 3. One for cleaning up after contamination, one for agar, and one to identify a contam. And the last one i put a lot of effort in so others won't have to.
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    #22475427 - 11/04/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah FT420, you can't take anything Azur says to heart. He's a dick, but a dick that is willing to help just the same :lol:

I can say that because I'm a dick too (just not as willing to help).

I've got a batch of straw azur gave me, and I think it's the chipper that makes it so fast. The straw is absolutely beat to shit by the time it comes out of the shredder. The round hollow stalks have been completely disassembled into little shards with tons of surface area.



Check that out... that's shredded :thumbup:

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    #22475937 - 11/04/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I buy preshredded straw but after reading this thread I started chopping it even finer in my ninja blender. So far I'm  really liking the results. Chipper shresder has been on my list of  things to buy for a while now.


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    #22476017 - 11/04/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #22476198 - 11/04/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea man I killed myself cutting straw by hand all fall. My hands are still hurting :lol:


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    #22476457 - 11/04/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mush on YouTube there's a video of a guy making straw using a weed whacker. I tried it over the fall too, and if you take your time it can be fuckin sooo shredded. Almost powdery. Also everyone has weed whackers lol.

Probably more work than a shredder, and much longer, but it's a cheap solution if you don't have the funds. And it beats using your hands lol


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Mad Season]
    #22476466 - 11/04/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lawnmower works too. Just lay it ot in yor driveway and go over it.


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22476475 - 11/04/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't have a weed whacker or a lawn mower.


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    #22476478 - 11/04/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Then who was that Mexican guy I met at your place?

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    #22476479 - 11/04/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

And yet you have a chipper shredder :rofl: is your lawn wood chips??


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    #22476494 - 11/04/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Then who was that Mexican guy I met at your place?



Hey. He's only half Mexican. I think the blacks and Mexicans are in cahoots. Black guy steals my mower and sells it to Mexican. Mexican gets job mowing my grass.
$50 twice a month to mow, weed whack, edge, pick up trash, and blow the driveway off. Who can argue with that. I mowed enough grass in my life.


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    #22477515 - 11/04/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Lawnmower works too. Just lay it ot in yor driveway and go over it.





Yea I almost tried this. But its the fall and I was worried about what seeds and stuff I might pick up, I swept a bunch of straw off my porch and ended up with a bunch of grass growing in my tubs :lol:

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22488635 - 11/06/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I suck at taking pics. Here's gt on straw cased with coir/verm



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    #22490663 - 11/07/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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and their already pinning? damn bro. thats pretty fast for PE.

EDIT:Btw, I got a bale of straw per recommendation, and its a bitch to chop up.  Tried to rent a chipper/shredder, fucking 300$ deposit and 75 buck an hour for like the first 3 hours.




I've posted this in a few straw related threads, but no one listens to a "noob", even one who's been involved in mushroom cultivation since 1986...

Forget the big noisy messy chippers!

I bought a leaf shredder (Worx brand) for half that price. Essentially an inverted weed whacker in a hopper. The frame holds jumbo trash bags perfectly. I processed around 300 pounds of straw in less than half a day. Best investment ever!!

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Green Bastard]
    #22490808 - 11/07/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lawnmower still works for me :thumbup:

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    #22490947 - 11/07/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I like to argue you can use a blender. Just mix with water first, don't put it in dry.

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    #22491033 - 11/07/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I use my ninja blender.  I fill it with water then submerge the straw. Works good for small batches.


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and their already pinning? damn bro. thats pretty fast for PE.

EDIT:Btw, I got a bale of straw per recommendation, and its a bitch to chop up.  Tried to rent a chipper/shredder, fucking 300$ deposit and 75 buck an hour for like the first 3 hours.




I've posted this in a few straw related threads, but no one listens to a "noob", even one who's been involved in mushroom cultivation since 1986...

Forget the big noisy messy chippers!

I bought a leaf shredder (Worx brand) for half that price. Essentially an inverted weed whacker in a hopper. The frame holds jumbo trash bags perfectly. I processed around 300 pounds of straw in less than half a day. Best investment ever!!



My chipper shredder was $150 used. I can do 300 lbs in 30 min


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22491063 - 11/07/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The other day I saw a nice chipper shresder siting next to cement mixer. I wish I wasn't so broke I would have gotten both.


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    #22491886 - 11/07/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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and their already pinning? damn bro. thats pretty fast for PE.

EDIT:Btw, I got a bale of straw per recommendation, and its a bitch to chop up.  Tried to rent a chipper/shredder, fucking 300$ deposit and 75 buck an hour for like the first 3 hours.




I've posted this in a few straw related threads, but no one listens to a "noob", even one who's been involved in mushroom cultivation since 1986...

Forget the big noisy messy chippers!

I bought a leaf shredder (Worx brand) for half that price. Essentially an inverted weed whacker in a hopper. The frame holds jumbo trash bags perfectly. I processed around 300 pounds of straw in less than half a day. Best investment ever!!



My chipper shredder was $150 used. I can do 300 lbs in 30 min




Nice!! Not too many deals like that around here...
You lose much to flying debris? What do you shoot it into?
What I like most, about my shredder, is that it weighs under 20 pounds, packs away into a small space, and the straw shreds straight into a bag.

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Green Bastard]
    #22492007 - 11/07/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yea. Those features are nice. Mine is big and heavy. And i had to build a crate type thing to catch it all.
I lose such a minimal amount to blowing that it's not a concern, but not without the crate.
How well does yours shred the straw?  I looked at that model, but wasn't sure. Mine is a gas powered beast that will shred 3" diameter sticks if i threw em in


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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
    #22492378 - 11/07/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My straw ends up averaging around 2". A few 3"-4" pieces. About 20% is under 1/2", or powder. I pasteurize in large burlap sacs...

Not so good with sticks, so it's dedicated to straw only. We're rural acreage, so sticks, that don't end up as mulch for perennials, get burned...

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    #25042336 - 03/06/18 08:20 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

:elmo:

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    #25042551 - 03/06/18 10:06 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

For anybody that is lazy as fuck like me and doesnt want to chop straw go to petsmart and look up oxbow “eco-straw”. 20# of pelletized straw for $20.


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    #25042557 - 03/06/18 10:08 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

thanks gov'na:cheers: trying straw soon.

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    #25042581 - 03/06/18 10:17 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I think ill switch over conpletely after i run out of coir. A lot of times i only need half a brick of coir and old coir is a gamble depending on moisture content and rh.

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    #25042599 - 03/06/18 10:24 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Buy straw.  Put on ground.  Run over with lawn mower.  Pick it up.  Done.


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    #25042609 - 03/06/18 10:28 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I'm gonna make the switch cos I have to source the coir online (expensive) and this last batch I got is fucked up. At first I thought I was just dealing with slow clones + cold weather, but even the MS cultures I got are colonizing ridiculously slow, almost makes me wanna trash all this shit.
2 tubs are starting to pin now after 45 days, wtf? Something's up with this coir I tell ya. With straw there's no second guessing. I also get a giant bail of straw for 3 euros, ridiculous. :cool:

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    #25042633 - 03/06/18 10:35 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

45 days? lolz. id be fuckin pissed. at least they didnt explode with mold.

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    #25042662 - 03/06/18 10:45 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

No mold no. they look perfectly healthy. The spawn was clean too.

It's just unbranded shit that comes in a rando box with no labels, all crammed together. Lots weigh as little as 400 grams and a few reach 650.
The first time I used coir from this batch was in August last year. It was a cloned culture of Orissa India. After more than a month without seeing pins I tossed the tubs and chalked it up to genetics. But then the coir+Brf pucks I've been doing don't pin out no matter what. I think I read somewhere that sometimes coir contains added salt, but tbh dunno it this is the case.
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    #25042686 - 03/06/18 10:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.ebay.es/itm/COIR-BRICK-COCO-CANNA-SOIL-MEDIA-10-X-10-LITRE-HYDROPONICS-GROW-ROOM-L-K/281913987933?hash=item41a362135d:m:mVDC_0AkYnCjx7zcnrhcV7g

This is the shit I got. Last year I bought from the same vendor, and was drowning in shrooms by this month, no probelms. But this coir doesn't seem to have any control or standards so they may have sourced it from somewhere else and now it's fucked up.

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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Josex]
    #25073295 - 03/18/18 01:47 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

ive used oxbox many times. its a great product. its a little expensive though. you can also order bales pre chopped on ebay and amazon. it does get a little sticky. so if you do use it, make sure to expand it with hot water because the plant material binder gets sticky. and use gloves to mix it up.
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Made my first 2 straw tubs today, one layered, one mixed, now I understand first hand why they say to layer straw tubs.
Being a lazy coir user I'm not used to this diabolic mess that is straw, jeez :rofl:
Also, dem tubs don't weigh nearly as much as a coir tub, yall know what that means...

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Straw time bitches.

A chipper shredder is a wonderful piece of machinery. Get on craigslist and buy one now. It shreds the fuck out of straw. Infinitely better than chopping by hand. The kind of stuff myc loves.

When you've got enough to fill a mesh laundry bag, load it up. Put it in your pot and fill it above the straw line with hot water. Now take the straw out and get the water to 160 degrees. Once at temp, Put the straw back in for 30-45 min. After that, pull it out and let it drain. An hour or so later, spread it out on a table and mix it with spawn. Then load it into bags, trays, or tubs.
If using bags, seal it up and then poke holes every few inches. Once colonized, put into fruiting.
If using trays or monotubs, pack it in tight. The chipper shredder gets the straw really fine so a weight is not needed.
Here are a few pics. I'll load more when i have fruits. These are pink and king oysters.






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The bruthamang's way of pasteurizing straw has always been my go-to.
Easier and less messy than the tub method, also easier to get the correct temps throughout the pasteurization cycle.

I like to pasteurize for one hour though, and use a old blanket instead of a laundry bag (pieces of straw are able to escape from the laundry net).


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