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azur
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firstTIMER420 said: and their already pinning? damn bro. thats pretty fast for PE.
EDIT:Btw, I got a bale of straw per recommendation, and its a bitch to chop up. Tried to rent a chipper/shredder, fucking 300$ deposit and 75 buck an hour for like the first 3 hours.
I've posted this in a few straw related threads, but no one listens to a "noob", even one who's been involved in mushroom cultivation since 1986...
Forget the big noisy messy chippers!
I bought a leaf shredder (Worx brand) for half that price. Essentially an inverted weed whacker in a hopper. The frame holds jumbo trash bags perfectly. I processed around 300 pounds of straw in less than half a day. Best investment ever!!
My chipper shredder was $150 used. I can do 300 lbs in 30 min
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MudaFuka
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
#22491063 - 11/07/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The other day I saw a nice chipper shresder siting next to cement mixer. I wish I wasn't so broke I would have gotten both.
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Green Bastard
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
#22491886 - 11/07/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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azur said:
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Green Bastard said:
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firstTIMER420 said: and their already pinning? damn bro. thats pretty fast for PE.
EDIT:Btw, I got a bale of straw per recommendation, and its a bitch to chop up. Tried to rent a chipper/shredder, fucking 300$ deposit and 75 buck an hour for like the first 3 hours.
I've posted this in a few straw related threads, but no one listens to a "noob", even one who's been involved in mushroom cultivation since 1986...
Forget the big noisy messy chippers!
I bought a leaf shredder (Worx brand) for half that price. Essentially an inverted weed whacker in a hopper. The frame holds jumbo trash bags perfectly. I processed around 300 pounds of straw in less than half a day. Best investment ever!!
My chipper shredder was $150 used. I can do 300 lbs in 30 min
Nice!! Not too many deals like that around here... You lose much to flying debris? What do you shoot it into? What I like most, about my shredder, is that it weighs under 20 pounds, packs away into a small space, and the straw shreds straight into a bag.
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azur
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Yea. Those features are nice. Mine is big and heavy. And i had to build a crate type thing to catch it all. I lose such a minimal amount to blowing that it's not a concern, but not without the crate. How well does yours shred the straw? I looked at that model, but wasn't sure. Mine is a gas powered beast that will shred 3" diameter sticks if i threw em in
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Green Bastard
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
#22492378 - 11/07/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My straw ends up averaging around 2". A few 3"-4" pieces. About 20% is under 1/2", or powder. I pasteurize in large burlap sacs...
Not so good with sticks, so it's dedicated to straw only. We're rural acreage, so sticks, that don't end up as mulch for perennials, get burned...
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Josex
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
#25042336 - 03/06/18 08:20 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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JHOVA
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Josex] 1
#25042551 - 03/06/18 10:06 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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For anybody that is lazy as fuck like me and doesnt want to chop straw go to petsmart and look up oxbow βeco-strawβ. 20# of pelletized straw for $20.
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mushboy
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: JHOVA]
#25042557 - 03/06/18 10:08 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks gov'na trying straw soon.
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: mushboy]
#25042581 - 03/06/18 10:17 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think ill switch over conpletely after i run out of coir. A lot of times i only need half a brick of coir and old coir is a gamble depending on moisture content and rh.
Them pellets can be used in exact quantites with zero waste.
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van hatton
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: JHOVA]
#25042599 - 03/06/18 10:24 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Buy straw. Put on ground. Run over with lawn mower. Pick it up. Done.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Josex
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: JHOVA]
#25042609 - 03/06/18 10:28 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm gonna make the switch cos I have to source the coir online (expensive) and this last batch I got is fucked up. At first I thought I was just dealing with slow clones + cold weather, but even the MS cultures I got are colonizing ridiculously slow, almost makes me wanna trash all this shit. 2 tubs are starting to pin now after 45 days, wtf? Something's up with this coir I tell ya. With straw there's no second guessing. I also get a giant bail of straw for 3 euros, ridiculous.
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mushboy
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Josex]
#25042633 - 03/06/18 10:35 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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45 days? lolz. id be fuckin pissed. at least they didnt explode with mold.
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Josex
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: mushboy]
#25042662 - 03/06/18 10:45 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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No mold no. they look perfectly healthy. The spawn was clean too.
It's just unbranded shit that comes in a rando box with no labels, all crammed together. Lots weigh as little as 400 grams and a few reach 650. The first time I used coir from this batch was in August last year. It was a cloned culture of Orissa India. After more than a month without seeing pins I tossed the tubs and chalked it up to genetics. But then the coir+Brf pucks I've been doing don't pin out no matter what. I think I read somewhere that sometimes coir contains added salt, but tbh dunno it this is the case. So straw is gunna be.
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Josex
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Josex]
#25042686 - 03/06/18 10:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.ebay.es/itm/COIR-BRICK-COCO-CANNA-SOIL-MEDIA-10-X-10-LITRE-HYDROPONICS-GROW-ROOM-L-K/281913987933?hash=item41a362135d:m:mVDC_0AkYnCjx7zcnrhcV7g
This is the shit I got. Last year I bought from the same vendor, and was drowning in shrooms by this month, no probelms. But this coir doesn't seem to have any control or standards so they may have sourced it from somewhere else and now it's fucked up.
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van hatton
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Josex]
#25042725 - 03/06/18 11:04 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lick it josex
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Josex
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: van hatton]
#25042729 - 03/06/18 11:06 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Will do!
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eatyualive
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: Josex]
#25073295 - 03/18/18 01:47 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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ive used oxbox many times. its a great product. its a little expensive though. you can also order bales pre chopped on ebay and amazon. it does get a little sticky. so if you do use it, make sure to expand it with hot water because the plant material binder gets sticky. and use gloves to mix it up.

beginning pages of my slurry thread was using oxbox litter.
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
#25098546 - 03/29/18 12:46 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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very useful thanks
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Josex
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: whitehawk]
#25131722 - 04/11/18 07:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Made my first 2 straw tubs today, one layered, one mixed, now I understand first hand why they say to layer straw tubs. Being a lazy coir user I'm not used to this diabolic mess that is straw, jeez  Also, dem tubs don't weigh nearly as much as a coir tub, yall know what that means...
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Josex
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Re: how azur gets down on straw [Re: azur]
#27298171 - 05/07/21 07:14 AM (3 years, 13 days ago) |
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azur said: Evening ya'll ya like straw Here's another how to do but it's nothing new
If you're feeling groovy select your favorite movie And a hit from your bowl To soothe your soul
Straw time bitches.
A chipper shredder is a wonderful piece of machinery. Get on craigslist and buy one now. It shreds the fuck out of straw. Infinitely better than chopping by hand. The kind of stuff myc loves.
When you've got enough to fill a mesh laundry bag, load it up. Put it in your pot and fill it above the straw line with hot water. Now take the straw out and get the water to 160 degrees. Once at temp, Put the straw back in for 30-45 min. After that, pull it out and let it drain. An hour or so later, spread it out on a table and mix it with spawn. Then load it into bags, trays, or tubs. If using bags, seal it up and then poke holes every few inches. Once colonized, put into fruiting. If using trays or monotubs, pack it in tight. The chipper shredder gets the straw really fine so a weight is not needed. Here are a few pics. I'll load more when i have fruits. These are pink and king oysters.

The bruthamang's way of pasteurizing straw has always been my go-to. Easier and less messy than the tub method, also easier to get the correct temps throughout the pasteurization cycle.
I like to pasteurize for one hour though, and use a old blanket instead of a laundry bag (pieces of straw are able to escape from the laundry net).

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