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lbot1983
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First timer, SW PE.
#21851656 - 06/24/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello shroomery and welcome to my first journey into mycology. I spent many many hours on here reading posts from the best of you, not gonna use names to keep from leaving any props out, so props to all.
Now onto my grow. Pf tek brf jars sterilized on the 15th, 9 days later lots of growth on all 9 jars. I read PE is a slow colonizer and fruiter but also read about using a little more then 1cc per jar to speed it up but not add to much extra moisture. I used 1.5cc per jar. Seems like the mycelium is pretty vigours for PE but read more then once that SW PE is the best in the buisness. I plan to spawn to bulk hpoo tek as i have horses. 6qt dub tubs is my FC.
I got 2 PE MS from SW, used 1 for the 9 jars and the other for 4 LCs. The LCs were inoculated on the 18th, all have mycelium growing, hopeing for atleast on viable culutre but hooefully all 4. I was very clean and anal about sterilization. I know my home is clean of mold as it is a more recent home in a dry desert, mold her is obvious and confined to bathrooms and even then in rare in homes under 25 years old.
I hope all goes well, wish me luck in my journel. Also, the fruit will be used to study psilocybin and ptsd by micro dosing cubensis.
Enjoy the pics of my mycelium as of today. I will update daily if not every other day.


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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21851710 - 06/24/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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great job, next time though you can use even less than 1cc, even just a drop per hole is fine. the reason there's 4 holes on a PF tek is to get things spread around and faster colonization. A single drop of spore solution has over 1000s of spores and you only need 2 compatible ones. check out the very last link in my signature.
PE they say this and that but it will grow, patience is the biggest part.
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I doubt your home is mold free.
Don't use that as an excuse to get sloppy
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Buck513]
#21851741 - 06/24/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yep even in your "mold free house" every single breath you take has 100s of spores. you can't sanitize a residential room let alone sterilize one.
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Never once did i say i was sloppy, i was just saying that i was anal about everything and there is no mold blooms growing in my house...i have hepa air filter and uv air filter in my house. As per a very reconized cultivator posting that continual failure is usally a sign of mold growing in the house. I was trying to imply that if shit fucks up i fucked it up and its not the enviornment. Why do people seem to read things that were in no way implied, what so ever.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21852122 - 06/24/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lbot1983 said: As per a very reconized cultivator posting that continual failure is usally a sign of mold growing in the house.
Yea, blame it on the mold spore count in the air, not the sterile technique of the user......lol.
You could put me, a SAB, and 100 jars in a room full of trich....I will do 100 G2G transfers and still come out a winner....
You control the failure rate, not the mold spore count.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: PussyFart]
#21852137 - 06/24/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amen PussyFart.
To the poster. Your doing well man. Growth in 9/9 jars first time and LC's rollin is a healthy start. Well played.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21852138 - 06/24/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was not implying that there are no spores in my home or bacteria in my breath, just again just saying, the dry climate i live in is very unhospital to mold spores germinating. I know the risks, i was anal, surgical mask, gloves, flow hood, 91% iso, alcohol wipes, 24 hour cooling before opening PC and alcohol lamp for flaming the needle before each jar. I took every precaution. Nothing sloppy about my sterilization process. I dont even move the jars, pics are taken in place. Im very anal. But i do appreciate the looking out from you guys.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21852145 - 06/24/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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even when its dry, anal is good. (climate joke).
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: PussyFart]
#21852147 - 06/24/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lbot1983 said: As per a very reconized cultivator posting that continual failure is usally a sign of mold growing in the house.
Yea, blame it on the mold spore count in the air, not the sterile technique of the user......lol.
You could put me, a SAB, and 100 jars in a room full of trich....I will do 100 G2G transfers and still come out a winner....
You control the failure rate, not the mold spore count.
Blame what, i said nothing of contam in my jars and clearly said if anything goes wrong I FUCKED IT UP.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21852153 - 06/24/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lbot1983 said: I was not implying that there are no spores in my home or bacteria in my breath, just again just saying, the dry climate i live in is very unhospital to mold spores germinating. I know the risks, i was anal, surgical mask, gloves, flow hood, 91% iso, alcohol wipes, 24 hour cooling before opening PC and alcohol lamp for flaming the needle before each jar. I took every precaution. Nothing sloppy about my sterilization process. I dont even move the jars, pics are taken in place. Im very anal. But i do appreciate the looking out from you guys.
they germinate in the jars anyway moot point 91% iso is inferior to 70% use 70% next time. it denatures proteins water is miscable with alcohol and helps it penetrate cell walls.
sloppy is not knowing about sterile process. that's the basics.
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bodhisatta said:
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lbot1983 said: I was not implying that there are no spores in my home or bacteria in my breath, just again just saying, the dry climate i live in is very unhospital to mold spores germinating. I know the risks, i was anal, surgical mask, gloves, flow hood, 91% iso, alcohol wipes, 24 hour cooling before opening PC and alcohol lamp for flaming the needle before each jar. I took every precaution. Nothing sloppy about my sterilization process. I dont even move the jars, pics are taken in place. Im very anal. But i do appreciate the looking out from you guys.
they germinate in the jars anyway moot point 91% iso is inferior to 70% use 70% next time. it denatures proteins water is miscable with alcohol and helps it penetrate cell walls.
sloppy is not knowing about sterile process. that's the basics.
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bodhisatta said:
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lbot1983 said: I was not implying that there are no spores in my home or bacteria in my breath, just again just saying, the dry climate i live in is very unhospital to mold spores germinating. I know the risks, i was anal, surgical mask, gloves, flow hood, 91% iso, alcohol wipes, 24 hour cooling before opening PC and alcohol lamp for flaming the needle before each jar. I took every precaution. Nothing sloppy about my sterilization process. I dont even move the jars, pics are taken in place. Im very anal. But i do appreciate the looking out from you guys.
they germinate in the jars anyway moot point 91% iso is inferior to 70% use 70% next time. it denatures proteins water is miscable with alcohol and helps it penetrate cell walls.
sloppy is not knowing about sterile process. that's the basics.
I used the 91% to clean my work after cleaned what i cleaned. I used wipes on the needle, jars, and anything else once the jars came out of the PC. I read something about what you have stated but had 91 on hand and figured it was more then ok for cleaning a work area. Thanks for the info, im all ears for good info.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21852341 - 06/24/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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C1V1=C2V2 is the concentration calculation you can dilute it to make 70% with distilled water
(0.70)(650mL)=(.91)(500mL)
add 150ml of water to 500ml of 91% yields you 650mL of 70%.
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bodhisatta said: C1V1=C2V2 is the concentration calculation you can dilute it to make 70% with distilled water
(0.70)(650mL)=(.91)(500mL)
add 150ml of water to 500ml of 91% yields you 650mL of 70%.
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bodhisatta said: C1V1=C2V2 is the concentration calculation you can dilute it to make 70% with distilled water
(0.70)(650mL)=(.91)(500mL)
add 150ml of water to 500ml of 91% yields you 650mL of 70%.
Thanks a bunch, i have a bunch of 91%. I always have it for cleaning my various dabbing rigs.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21863740 - 06/27/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quick update, all jars have very nice mycelium growth. Ill post a pic of 3 jars over a 72 hour period.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21889082 - 07/02/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most jars are about 90% colonized. I got a mini greenhouse martha setup. Sealed the bottom and added a few inches of perlite. Cut some slits to provide FEA and a cool mist humidifer. Empty i can maintain 90% or greater humidity and temps of 71-76. Should be spawing to bulk coir/coffee/gypsum next week. I have enough spawn for 2 6qt shoe boxs tubs and my lc is about ready to inoculate some wbs jars. I can get 12 6 qt shoe box tubs in there.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21889620 - 07/02/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn. You are putting my first grow to shame ._.
Quick question. How fine did you grind up your brown rice? It looks like you broke more into pieces than powder. The reason I ask is because when I used pint jars (And I've seen others with this problem) I got mine down to a more powdery consistency and they had a tendency to stall out or separate from the rest of the substrate.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21889776 - 07/02/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its organic brf, very fine. Im using half pint jars and did not pack them. There are nice air pockets that have colonized nicely. The first few jars are just about ready, within the week. Its been 2 weeks since inoculation with MS and from what i have read that is a pretty quick colinization from ms for PE.
Im one of those read for a year then go for it. I made 4 LCs to inoculate WBS jars shortly and realized a martha woukd be better suited for 6 qt bulk trays then having to deal with 14 dub tubs.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21889829 - 07/02/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see, didn't have anything for scale, thought they were whole pint. You got some good technique mixing with the verm there, sir. Keep it up, I am both very impressed and very envious =)
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21889872 - 07/02/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ZeroBoyWD said: I see, didn't have anything for scale, thought they were whole pint. You got some good technique mixing with the verm there, sir. Keep it up, I am both very impressed and very envious =)
Thanks much, i have years of experiance with cannabis, from soil to auqaponics and everything in between. Most of it is useless when it comes to mushrooms but there are a few things that gave me a head start. Here's to keeping it clean.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21889959 - 07/02/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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A seasoned cultivator mentality goes a long way in understanding the concepts. I read as much as I can (often putting off my college studies) but I'm really a hands on kinda guy. I like to see things in action so they'll stick. Really looking forward to following this grow to its conclusion
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21890010 - 07/02/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ill be sure to post whenever something worth posting happens, good or bad. Until then feed back and questions appreciated.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21896924 - 07/04/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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First jar is 100% colonized, all others within a week behind. I habe surgery on the 13th so ill spawn to bulk next weekend and let them sit for 10 days while i recover. Ill update with pics when i spawn.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21896956 - 07/04/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ohh and happy 4th to all.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21909839 - 07/07/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So i have spent the last 3 days dialing in my martha. I got an analog hygrometer and calibrated it.
Seems like 15 minutes on 30 off on low for my ultrasonic is the sweet spot. When it is on it brings humidity to 98% then, once off, the humidity slowly falls down to 88% before the humidifier kicks back on.
You all know i am a noob but an educated noob. I figure this will be ideal for pinning. As for fruiting i was thinking 15 on 45 off, should maintain 85-95% humidity, no cakes, all bulk.
Any advise would be appreciated.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21911747 - 07/07/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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After more research and tweaking i got my times to 1 hour 45 minutes off 15 on. I put a 3-4 inch layer of damp perlite over a forced air egg incubator top i had laying around. Its decreased the rate at which the humidity falls, kinda like a SGFC at the bottom of the perlite. I was able to remove the computer fan because the incubator does its job. Allows for 24/7 FAE. Ill post pics tomorrow when i spawn my first tub.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21911899 - 07/07/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll be watching for your grow log. I just joined the forums after 6 months of PF Cakes and am about to do my first WBS>Coir bulk tub. Us newbies seem to have good luck on our first step up from the basic cakes according to a few logs I've reviewed of people making the jump. And god do I wish I lived somewhere a little dryer with less mold, contams were awful for the first month or so of my growing until I completely cleaned out my former cannabis room had to toe and re-painted/re-sealed wood floors. Now it hasn't been much problem at all. GOOD LUCK! I hope the mushrooms fall, or better yet climb to the sky, in your favor
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MagicInMichigan said: I'll be watching for your grow log. I just joined the forums after 6 months of PF Cakes and am about to do my first WBS>Coir bulk tub. Us newbies seem to have good luck on our first step up from the basic cakes according to a few logs I've reviewed of people making the jump. And god do I wish I lived somewhere a little dryer with less mold, contams were awful for the first month or so of my growing until I completely cleaned out my former cannabis room had to toe and re-painted/re-sealed wood floors. Now it hasn't been much problem at all. GOOD LUCK! I hope the mushrooms fall, or better yet climb to the sky, in your favor 
Thanks much. I started with brf cakes but soon leatned that PE is not the best idea fruited on cakes. From there i ordered 5 more syringes. I realized i dont want to deal with all the tubs for 6 strains so martha seemed like the best bet. I have room for 9 6 qt tubs and roughly 16-20 cakes. Gonna do a few cakes of each strain then the rest in wbs jars spawned to bulk. My bottom self stays above 90% humidity at all times.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21920100 - 07/09/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So i forgot to take pics during spawning but first tub is done and now in the closet. I used daemons coir tek but added some gypsum. Ill case in 10-12 days and put it into fruiting. When i put it into fruiting ill make sure to get pics before i case it.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21940206 - 07/14/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lbot1983 said: So i forgot to take pics during spawning but first tub is done and now in the closet. I used daemons coir tek but added some gypsum. Ill case in 10-12 days and put it into fruiting. When i put it into fruiting ill make sure to get pics before i case it.
Awesome! Can't wait to see your first flush I have a few agar plates going and hopefully they will stay mostly contam free and I wont have to transfer too many times. The prints were maddddd unsterile since I dropped them into a trich infested grow box. Once I fruit some clean ones I'll send you a couple prints of each so you have some more strains to work with. I'll have Chilean, Brazillian, and Burmese IF I get these babies to fruit. It's always nice to have a variety and some extras to work with and not have to worry about having to pay for more. Good luck with the PE!
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21960282 - 07/18/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry it has been awhile, had surgery but i kept busy. Got some WBS jars of B+ and PES Amazonian, brf jars of b+, gt, tc, pes amazonian, and Puerto Rican. Made LCs of each strain as well. 1st PE tub was cased yesterday and should go into fruiting tomorrow. 2 other tubs of PE have been spawned and are about a week from birthing. Forgot to get pics like i always do lol. Here is a pic of my jars going now.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21960312 - 07/18/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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wait wait wait. Are you humidifying your colonizing jars???
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Ohh dear god no, thats piped to my martha.
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lbot1983 said: So i forgot to take pics during spawning but first tub is done and now in the closet. I used daemons coir tek but added some gypsum. Ill case in 10-12 days and put it into fruiting. When i put it into fruiting ill make sure to get pics before i case it.
Awesome! Can't wait to see your first flush I have a few agar plates going and hopefully they will stay mostly contam free and I wont have to transfer too many times. The prints were maddddd unsterile since I dropped them into a trich infested grow box. Once I fruit some clean ones I'll send you a couple prints of each so you have some more strains to work with. I'll have Chilean, Brazillian, and Burmese IF I get these babies to fruit. It's always nice to have a variety and some extras to work with and not have to worry about having to pay for more. Good luck with the PE!
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Im getting there, up to 6 strains now. Not to shabby id think.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21963885 - 07/19/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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First tub of PE is in the martha. I covered all the mycelium patches with more casing before i put it in. I know PE slows down about now so heres to fruits in 2-3 weeks.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21964621 - 07/19/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So i decided to do a side by side, one tub cased at 100% and left for 2 days longer in incubation. The other i cased today and put into the martha. The pic doesnt looked 100% colonized but it is.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21964646 - 07/19/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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what size are the trays you are using?
also, what substrate recipe did you use
what casing recipe did you use?
If you could post the measurements thatd be great
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You will do anything not to have to eyeball a substrate, clearly.
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firstTIMER420 said: what size are the trays you are using?
also, what substrate recipe did you use
what casing recipe did you use?
If you could post the measurements thatd be great
My tubs are 6qt shoe box tubs, i spawned 1 qt brf spawn to 3 qt coir/verm/gypsum at a ratio of 1:2 ratio verm coir with 5% gypsum. After incubation they were cased in 60/40 verm coir. I was gonna use hpoo but crazy rains turned all my hpoo to soup.
My subs and casing were mixed with boiling water in a bucket and left to sit for 12 hours. If i used hpoo i would have pasturized properly but coir verm doesnt need it as coir is very contam resistant which is why i use it with my tropical reptiles. I have never seen a contam on it and only change it out once a month in dirty reptile tanks, just remove waste daily and it remains contam free. My BRB (brazilian rainbow boa) requires 80% humidity, tank is hooked up to an US on a timer. Keeps the sub moist always with no contams.
I am still doing my first grow so im not trying to get to technical yet, just looking for a sucessfull one. Im moving to lc, g2g, and agar now but for these first PE trays ill stick with KISS (keep it simple stupid).
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#21964824 - 07/19/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You will do anything not to have to eyeball a substrate, clearly.
What is this supposed to mean? You speak like you know me and i do this often...first grow here buddy, i dont know what you speak of but im pretty picky about how i do things. Dont judge until i screw up.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21964832 - 07/19/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You will do anything not to have to eyeball a substrate, clearly.
What is this supposed to mean? You speak like you know me and i do this often...first grow here buddy, i dont know what you speak of but im pretty picky about how i do things. Dont judge until i screw up.
Yeah, if I were talking to you, I assure you I would have used the reply function correctly. That guy I did reply to however, has been asking just about every single person for exact measurements of their substrates.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21964836 - 07/19/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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He was referring to firstTIMER420 who has been on a real tear asking absurd and easily answered questions if he chose to use the search function.
Chill out.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#21964920 - 07/19/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ahh my apologies, seemed like it was towards my saying my tub was colonized, thats what i get for assuming hahaha. Sorry again.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21964928 - 07/19/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't worry about it, good luck with your grow here, seems like you've got some momentum going.
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SteveRogers said: He was referring to firstTIMER420 who has been on a real tear asking absurd and easily answered questions if he chose to use the search function.
Chill out.
Everyone wishes you luck on your first grow.
Im chill, just an error in judgement, was confused. Thanks gor the good wishes.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21974646 - 07/21/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All 3 6 qt PE tubs are in the martha. The 3rd i left uncased just to see the blobs everyone talks about first hand. I have mycelium growth on jars from every new strain but the PR, guessing they are slower to germinate then other strains...at least this batch.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21979855 - 07/22/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quick update, all 3 tubs are looking good. Nice healthy mycelium, doesnt seem whispy and lacking FAE, they are not drying out but no puddling on the tubs either. Pretty sure i nailed the environment in my martha. We all know i am a noob so if im missing something please let me know. Here is a pic of all 3 tubs to judge. Obviously the middle on is the uncased lol.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21980391 - 07/22/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looking good so far. I'm pretty new to this too so I'm not the best judge but I approve I look forward to seeing them grow, make sure to post lots of pics as they progress so the experts can help you correct anything if anything goes wrong before it's too late. They are very good at judging the issue based on pictures and helpful.
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Thanks much and will do. Hopefully ill have some pins in the next week or so. Figure with 3 tubs done a little different will let me decided how i progress with PE in the future.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Day 5 of fruiting and the tubs look great. The ropey mycelium seems to be thickening up, almost like it may be moving to start hyphal knot creation. For the first 4 days the ropey mycelium looked frayed at the end, like each individual strand was trying to go a different direction, now most are smoothed and look like they are getting more dence. I know they are not knots yet but i read somewhere that those ropey strands end up turning to the knots...is this true?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21983658 - 07/23/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was reading about mycelium types and will correct myself. So knots dont form from the tips of the rhizomes but the excess ammount of them points towards a larger pinset then if the mycelium where tomentos growth you get a more uneven pin set.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21983738 - 07/23/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think how rhizomorphic the growth looks has anything to do with the pinset. Where are you getting this from?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#21983780 - 07/23/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was from a post here. It discussed the 2 differnt types of mycelium and how they effect the pin set, just look for hyphae vs tomentose its all over. Hyphae produce a more even pinset while tomentose produce a more uneven pinset. Im still learning here and my terms may get mixed up here and there so please bear with me lol.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21983882 - 07/23/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Primordia are pin tip sized white dots that appear brighter than the mycelium network.
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insanemike said: Primordia are pin tip sized white dots that appear brighter than the mycelium network.
I know what primordia are
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21984805 - 07/23/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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insanemike said: Primordia are pin tip sized white dots that appear brighter than the mycelium network.
I know what primordia are
Cool thanks for clearing that up because this statement lead me to believe otherwise.
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lbot1983 said: Day 5 of fruiting and the tubs look great. The ropey mycelium seems to be thickening up, almost like it may be moving to start hyphal knot creation. For the first 4 days the ropey mycelium looked frayed at the end, like each individual strand was trying to go a different direction, now most are smoothed and look like they are getting more dence.I know they are not knots yet but i read somewhere that those ropey strands end up turning to the knots...is this true?
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Yeah was trying to find out if something i read was true which i found was not. My question was gearing towards hyphal knots not primordia. Technically the tiny white pin heads are hyphal knots, as soon as the knot starts to take shape and grow into a tiny shroom with no cap or very tiny pale cap it is primordia. Finally once the primordia takes shape and has a noticeable cap forming its then a pin. This is fallow many things read by RR and even him posting a pic of all 3 on money, so u can see the difference fairly easy.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21987767 - 07/23/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nonsequeter: Read OP, sounds like you used 1/4 syringe per LC? You should be able to start any LC with a single drop, and indeed it is preferable since it reduces the chance of contaminats in the syringe making it into the LC.
Hope they worked out well for you.
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I've never heard someone regularly using a drop of lc.
Most people I'm aware of use at least 1-4cc per quart
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Buck513]
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I could be wrong, I've only made MS LC directly from a print, and only used about 1/8th of a faint quarter sized print. 4cc sounds like a hell of a lot.
Just unfortunate that he burned up all his original multispore inoculant since it might not be easy to come by more from PE.
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Spores to lc is one of the worst methods to go about growing.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Buck513]
#21988388 - 07/24/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was only screwing with it before I had agar. I'd rather make a muda blender jar and do LI or just use a wedge.
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2cc seems pretty standard for 250ml of liquid. I made 4 PE LCs to increase the chances of having 1 viable one. Also i have PE tubs that ill be able to clone from, 4 grain jars going of pe that i can do g2g. All i did was go through 2 PE syringes but still have many ways to continue PE. as for MS of PE, reliable vendors still carry good PE MS and can order another if i needed.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21988774 - 07/24/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lbot1983 said: 2cc seems pretty standard for 250ml of liquid. I made 4 PE LCs to increase the chances of having 1 viable one. Also i have PE tubs that ill be able to clone from, 4 grain jars going of pe that i can do g2g. All i did was go through 2 PE syringes but still have many ways to continue PE. as for MS of PE, reliable vendors still carry good PE MS and can order another if i needed.
If you put that much liquid in each LC, you actually decreased the chances of them being viable. By a huge margin.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21988781 - 07/24/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I plan on starting agar work soon as well, just want to ensure i have the basics locked down first. I have read many times that MS LC inoculations are a crap shoot but still a good way for a noob learn from. Im a hands on kind of guy and like to give lots of things a try. You read 10 post on how sucessfull thier ms lc was and 10 on how crappy it was, in the end all we can really do to sort through misinformation is learn first hand.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
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lbot1983 said: 2cc seems pretty standard for 250ml of liquid. I made 4 PE LCs to increase the chances of having 1 viable one. Also i have PE tubs that ill be able to clone from, 4 grain jars going of pe that i can do g2g. All i did was go through 2 PE syringes but still have many ways to continue PE. as for MS of PE, reliable vendors still carry good PE MS and can order another if i needed.
If you put that much liquid in each LC, you actually decreased the chances of them being viable. By a huge margin.
Thanks, i actually never heard that yet. Most teks i read for LC were with agar or flesh. The MS syringe teks i read all said 1-4cc so i used the mean value.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21988794 - 07/24/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole you got 5 shrooms from me for helping sort through bs recently, thanks much.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21990386 - 07/24/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Day 6 in the greenhouse for the 2 cased tubs, day 4 for the uncased. The casing layer is nearly 100% colonized on both cased tubs. Lots and lots of healthy mycelium but no signs of fruiting. Based on my research i should see pins in 4-8 days. This is like waiting for christmas when i was a kid. Just glad i have so many other things that i need to do or it may be all consuming. I have 2 out buildings with climate control i may convert for various edible and medicinal mushrooms.
 How do they look?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21995234 - 07/25/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Casing layer on both cased tubs at 100%. Still no signs of knots. Dont expect any gor atleast a few more days.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21995251 - 07/25/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice. Just be patient, they will start popping up in no time. That is a good idea for those buildings if they are climate controlled good luck with that.
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Indeed they are fully climate controled. They were my old veg and flower rooms for cannabis before my county made it illegal to grow even with medical card.
Whats up with this mycelium growth?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Im probably just being noob looking to hard trying to learn but i just want to learn what i am seeing. Got that marshmallow like growth in the last pic and now i notice this...could it be primordia?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21996499 - 07/25/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doesn't look like it but i could be wrong
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#21996501 - 07/25/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can't really tell but just chill out, it doesn't look too crazy yet. Might have a little bacteria maybe. And if your posts are so close together it's best to use the edit function.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22005680 - 07/27/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hows things looking on this tub? I think i see knots on the casing layer. There are a shit ton of knots between the tub walls and sub.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22006063 - 07/27/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Knots?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
#22006077 - 07/27/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There do appear to be some hyphal knots there... If that's not a buncha knots then it's sick mycelium that looks highly similar by virtue of how colonized the casing layer is.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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noun plural noun: knots 1. a fastening made by tying a piece of string, rope, or something similar. "tie a knot at the end of the cord" synonyms: tie, twist, loop, bow, hitch, half hitch, clove hitch, join, fastening; More a particular method of tying a knot. "you need to master two knots, the clove hitch and the sheet bend" a tied or folded ribbon, worn as an ornament. 2. a tangled mass in something such as hair. 3. a knob, protuberance, or node in a stem, branch, or root. synonyms: nodule, gnarl, node; More a hard mass formed in a tree trunk at the intersection with a branch, resulting in a round cross-grained piece in timber when cut through. a hard lump of tissue in an animal or human body. 4. an unpleasant feeling of tightness or tension in a part of the body. "her stomach was in knots as she unlocked the door" 5. a small tightly packed group of people. "the little knot of people clustered around the doorway" 6. a unit of speed equivalent to one nautical mile per hour, used especially of ships, aircraft, and winds. historical a length marked by knots on a log line, as a measure of speed. "some days the vessel logged 12 knots" verb 3rd person present: knots 1. fasten with a knot. "the scarves were knotted loosely around their throats" synonyms: tie (up), fasten, secure, bind, do up "a long blue scarf was knotted around her waist" make (a carpet or other decorative item) with knots. 2. make (something, especially hair) tangled. synonyms: tangled, tangly, knotty, entangled, matted, snarled, unkempt, uncombed, tousled; informalmussed up "knotted hair"
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
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There do appear to be some hyphal knots there... If that's not a buncha knots then it's sick mycelium that looks highly similar by virtue of how colonized the casing layer is.
I might see one or two, my casing layers never look like that I guess.
@Buck
Thanks for the dictionary.com , I was implying I saw a colonizing casing layer and maybe a few tiny buttons . Maybe it's just the pic.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
#22006117 - 07/27/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eh I only see maybe 6-7 of them without looking too hard... they're not exactly everywhere. A better pic would say more than I can.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22006313 - 07/27/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sweet im not crazy hahaha. Also found 3 little guus starting to darken on top. As for the them being all over, those are between the tub and sub.
The casing is verm coir so it is not the perfect casing and colonized before knoting up. I sure hope its not sick mycelium lol. Looks good in comparison to other healthy tubs.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22014954 - 07/29/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No pins yet but more and more knots. The uncased tub has a blob growing now, showed up yesterday evening and is now the size of a pea.
Took a close up of a section of casing with some knots, seemed like a good spot to monitor growth of knots to pins for my own amusement.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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I see some
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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I'll monitor these knots for you guys and take pics as they grow. Ill add a pic of the blob this evening or tomorrow as well.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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What humidifier are you using with your greenhouse? I've been wanting to build one of those for years now, but I've just never gotten around to doing it.
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I think it is a vicks v4600 or 4700. Its an ultrasonic. I also have 5 inches of perlite on the bottom with a computer fan underneath pushing fresh damp air around.
The perlite and computer fan keep thing 99-88% humidity for an hour and 45 minutes then the humidifier turns on for 15 minutes to bring things back to 100%.
The bottom (for cakes) stays above 95% always. I used a calibrated analog hygrometer and spent a week dialing things in. Remeber, the settings of everything is dependent on your local climate.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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The blob for your viewing enjoyment!
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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I can now see 2 pin. One on a cased tub and the other on the uncased tub chilling with some baby blobs. I couldn't get a pic of cased tub pin, its coming up from the side but here is a pic of the pin from the uncased sun.
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Doh forgot the pic lol
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Great first grow man, you seem like you know exactly what you're doing with things. Following
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Thank you, i did not jump into this unprepared. I researched for weeks, got my supplies together for start to finish, started jars then realized i have an US humidifier and squashed the monotub, made it a glovebox, and set up the martha. If i had to guess id say tomorrow and saturday will reveal my pinset. Knows are finally starting to grow after 2 days. Im hopeing the 7th will be the day i harvest my first blobs and shrooms. Just a few for a nice weekend trip lol
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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With PE, expect some weird looking mutants too haha, especially from the uncased one.
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Ohh i already know about the mutants. I left a tub uncased and fruited it like a cake to get some blobs. I posted a pic of the biggest one so far and the pic with the pin has 3 blobs in it.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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I want to compare potency myself. I have read many posts about blobs being more potent but then others that say they are compareable to the mushrooms. Only way to tell is eat both and compare. I have a scale that goes down to mg so i can dose fairly precise.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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There's no use in being that precise.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
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I know but still, i have the scale so why not.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Okay. Lets say you test potency of this batch. Then you grow out the same strain from the same syringe.
Guess what? You don't have the same mushrooms. You could grow more or less potent shrooms.
So the test is really inconclusive . I had PESA that people said hit harder then my APE.
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Im just trying to draw my own conclusion, ill have enough to retest with blobs and shrooms from different tubs over a period of time. Thats enough for me to choose if i like the blobs or shrooms more. Not trying to gather evidence for others, just to satisfy my own curiosity.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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I always just try a gram of something and I know real quick what I'm dealing with.
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I do agree, 1 gram is my prefered tester. I enjoy the relaxation that comes with a small dose. I tend to get stuck barefoot in the garden on small doses like that, chillin with the plants.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Yeeeah buddy. It's enough that I can keep doing what I want to do with my day instead of laying in bed for hours rolling around.
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Heck yes, although rolling around in bed is fun as well.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Pins pins and pins. Today is a nice day. I have sveral small pins on each tub. I cant say how even it is yet but if i had to guess id say ive got a nice spread. The uncased tray has blobs forming all over yay! Here is a tiny pin for your viewing enjoyment. Ohh btw, 11 days in fruiting for pins in cased tubs, 7 days for blobs in the uncased.
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Its a baby penis and its blob friends.
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Thanks for the props. Got some pretty baby pins showing up, take a look.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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So i have 2 shrooms growing upside down side by side. Dont know why they do it and they are on the uncased tub...hmmm
Ive looked into and it seems like nothing to worry about, just a mutation of sorts.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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that looks mighty dry to me. how's your tub set up?
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They are in a martha. That was just before i misted and the US humidifier turned on. I mist and fan as well but its a bit dry in the mornings but is misted shortly after i wake. I took that pic just before my morning mist.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Use your humidifier more, it shouldn't get that dry. You'll have problems later on with fruit formation.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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Its not that dry, there is always condinsation on it. The coir is still dark not showing much sign of drying. That pic is only an area about 2"×2". There is condinsation on the walls of the martha, on the sides of the tubs. Ill mist a bit more i guess but im not touching the humidifier. It keeps the humidity perfect.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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well you dont have much if any moisture on the sub surface where it counts so I'd take up on tags advice and dial that marta in better.
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lbot1983 said: Its not that dry, there is always condinsation on it. The coir is still dark not showing much sign of drying. That pic is only an area about 2"×2". There is condinsation on the walls of the martha, on the sides of the tubs. Ill mist a bit more i guess but im not touching the humidifier. It keeps the humidity perfect.
No it isn't...
Your surface is dry. You are going to get tiny mushrooms with fucked up caps. The surface of a monotub shouldn't be that dry unless you have a massive pinset that's sucking up all of the water. I've seen both, one dry with no pinset that lead to fucked up fruits and one that I would mist 3 times a day and it was covered in pins that were sucking up all the water.
Your pins are coming in mutated and dry looking, mycelium is weak when dry as well. Up the humidity.
CONDENSATION IS NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM A METHOD OF DETERMINING HUMIDITY.If you have a cup of water in a hot desert the outside of the glass starts to sweat and form condensation. Is your cups RH at 100%? The difference in temperature causes condensation, not relative humidity. Humidity is invisible moisture in the air. Don't make your fruits suffer when someone is telling you what to do. Check my thread in my sig I've grown a mushroom or two and so has Spacechild.
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If you don't want to believe me believe RogerRabbit:
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I'm just concerned because when I look at pictures of tubs here on the Shroomery I see walls that are positively dripping with condensation.
It's one of the biggest causes of fail.
There should be minimum condensation on the walls of a monotub, and zero condensation on the walls of a shotgun terrarium.
Condensation only means the walls of the tub are at a temperature equal to or below the dewpoint within the tub.
The fix is to more closely equalize the temperature between inside and outside your monotub. Substrates produce heat so the inside of the tub is warmer, thus the condensation forms. It is also more humid in the tub so when this humid air hits the cold wall, it condenses.
Provide more fresh air now that pinning has started. Remove or loosen the polyfill so air can circulate. This will simultaneously lower the humidity in the tub and equalize temperature between inside and outside.
In short, what I'm saying is nothing is wrong and you don't want a lot of condensation, especially if it's to the point of running down the sides.
Move your light closer. It should be within a few inches of the tub. Place it above and to one side. RR
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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I said id mist more, how is that not taking someones advise? Just because im not going to mess with the humidifier doesnt mean i didnt listen. Scroll up and read where i said id mist more. Thanks all for the advise. If condinsation is not what im looking for then what is the sign that its drying out?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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The surface of a tray/casing should be covered in tiny droplets of water. You have to dial in your chamber, if it's drying out the surface like it is you have to adjust your humidifier.
Here is a pic of what a sub should look like:

That's my KSSS, I get so many pins the substrate gets sucked dry. Here is what it looks like after:

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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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you do as you want of course but the whole point of a martha is to dial the humidifier in so you dont have to mist.
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I realized a few minutes ago my perlite is dry, thats the issue, i had dropplets like that on the sub yesterday. Its gotta be because my perlite dried out. Id guess evaporation increased from that beyond what i was putting back. Gotta love the 15% rh nevada desert. Thanks for the help, doubt i would have noticed without it.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Okay, lets try that.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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Uhh... you're using perlite in a setup that involves a humidifier?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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your martha has perlite? I'm confused dude!
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: taGyo]
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Yes, if the US runs to much it saturates, so i use damp perlite layer to help keep the humidity stable, similar to an impeller type on bottom. Under the perlite is a small adjustable pc fan pushing air up through the perlite. There are beads of water on both cased tubs and most of the uncased. Just that small area that seemed a bit dry, maybe from the cluster growing there.
What i am going to do instead of trying to use the US more is go out and get an impeller type vicks.
I am taking advise, im not idly standing by seeing if what everyone says is correct. I am doing things to improve the problem you pointed out. I am misting more, i am looking into dialing in the martha a bit more, just because someone does not do exactly what you say does not me they arnt taking your advise.
I do appreciate all the help from everyone. Please keep it coming, dont be let down if every word it not fallowed.
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If this is your first grow why are you using an automated system with a bunch of fans and theoretical physics involved? The pc case fan is probably whats drying your shit out. We have a hefty handful of fruiting chamber ideas that work way better and are 100% passive.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
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This is all from TCs on this site, RR even said that if you dont have an impellar type humidifier perlite can help and it does. The fan is very weak, just enough to get the damp air at the bottom moving up. Really everything is pretty stable. Here is a pic of a tub in the same martha, maybe the casing layer is the differnce, i dont know, but it does not appear to be dry at all and it a foot away from the other.

Really, everything looks like the earlier pic, just that one area looked dry, even other areas of the same tub were damp.
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Because i felt i could, great thing about being free to learn and grow in our own way. Its working, one bad pic of a dry area and everyone thinks your failing. I see a very even pinset with lots of pins and primordia. I see water droplets on all my tubs, one was drying out a bit on the edge, opps, thanks for noticing but still, my system works and uses a lot less space then a bunch of tubs. I have 9 more tubs about to spawn and a dozen cakes.
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Buck513 said: Someone got butthurt pretty fast. You ask us for our opinions/advice, then get butthurt when we give it to you.
Seriously, we were all being pretty helpful. If you're going to be a dick you can just wallow in your failure. No skin off my back. I asked a pretty legitimate question and gave good reasoning to why I was asking it. People who act this way don't last long here.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole] 2
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how can a martha take up less space than a bunch of stacked tubs?
meh nevermind you dont wanna hear it anyway..
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Really? Where was i a dick? Im so lost as to how i became a dick. I said everything else looks ok, i said my perlite idea came from a post by rr. I never said anything rude to anyone. I never said anyone was wrong or stupid. I said thanks for the help, the advise, for everything. I said id mist more. The worst i did was say im not gonna mess with the US, Id go out and get ab impeller type to add.
There is nothing rude in my post, nothing dick headed. I sure hope your not taking the "because i could" as a dick post then your taking it wrong and im sorry for that.
Lets try and be adults and not assume anything. I am not a dick for honestly answering a question.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Okay well I might've thought you were being a dick because I misread "thanks for noticing" as "thanks for nothing". Whoops on my part.
Still, just trying to tell you that there are easier ways that are potentially more effective and require way less effort. It's easier to learn when all of your conditions aren't directly associated with the capacity at which 3-4 different machines operate.
Also we all reacted that way because that picture you posted wasn't just dry for 5-10 minutes, it showed signs of having been dry the entire time those pins were forming, and it shows on the pins.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22029191 - 08/01/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I appreciate the help, ill make sure to keep a much more watchful eye on things and get to town for the impeller type asap. Until then ill mist when needed, im almost always home (disabled vet).
Honestly in the end i have treated that cake as a tub but i removed it from the tub so its like a big cake. Thats why it got dry, atleast my guess. Noob mistake i did not think about until trying to figure out why it is more dry then the tubs...DOH! Greatful for noticing what i did not, honestly.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22029241 - 08/01/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well the thing is, it doesn't matter what kind of setup you have as long as it gets enough FAE and it doesn't dry out. You can get good results in open air if you keep misting enough. So, while you're dialing in, always prioritize FAE, but also make sure you're not directly blowing air at it, because that dries stuff out. Overmisting is a potential issue but if you always dial it with high FAE then it shouldn't become a problem. In my opinion the extra FAE is always worth having to mist now and again.
The reason I'd suggest starting simpler is because if you start with a simple understanding, the things you can make out of it can grow quite complex. If you start with a needlessly complex understanding, then you'll pretty much be stuck with whatever you figure out that actually works because you'll feel obligated to use that method, due to having spent weeks or months dialing it in.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22029250 - 08/01/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Having a bunch of tubs stacked up would be a lot simpler IMO. But whatever you want to do. I just think trying to dial in multiple machines and this and that is more trouble than it'd be worth as opposed to monos. But GH's can be great, though
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Buck513]
#22029257 - 08/01/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They can be great. Definitely hang onto all your gear for it. If you're going for space-saving and non-conspicuous design, though, GH is not where it's at.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22029526 - 08/01/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I understand where you are coming from. I understand the mistakes i made and have learned from each and every one. Honestly i had most everything for a martha sitting around the house. I think thats why i went that route. I often have severe migraines and arthritis flares, and even seizures. I want to be as automaded as i can in the end.
I put a lot of thought into monos but the rh in my area can reach below 10% in the winter. I run 2 US in my room in the winter to get the humidity to 50%. Its not a big room either. Martha seemed like my best bet at sucess while dealing with disabilities.
When i dialed the martha in it was weird westher with 50-70% humidity and lots of rain for a few weeks. Recently is back in the low 20s upper teens. So many variables to consider in any setup and im learning how to control them.
Again every word of advise you give is valued and is applied to any situation it is relevant to.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Buck513]
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Buck513 said: Having a bunch of tubs stacked up would be a lot simpler IMO. But whatever you want to do. I just think trying to dial in multiple machines and this and that is more trouble than it'd be worth as opposed to monos. But GH's can be great, though
The tubs or greenhouse seemed very comfortable, growing cannabis and rasing reptiles has me very familiar with dialing in these machine. Im working on the grow room now and when its done there will be tubs. I do love tye idea of monos.
In the end it was because what i had made it cheaper then tubs and wifes approval is always based on cost. All i needed was the mini greenhouse for 30 bucks.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22029635 - 08/01/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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To quote blindingleaf
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All you need is a plastic tub. 
SAB? Plastic tub.
Fruiting chamber? Plastic tub.
Grain storage? Plastic tub.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22029699 - 08/01/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It really doesn't get any simpler than a plastic tub. Thank god they're easy to find and cheap as hell.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: jbaby007]
#22029727 - 08/01/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is almost exactly how I did my first grow recently :O. Good luck man. My log thread with lots of pictures is in TNF if you want to see an almost identical grow.
I also had to mist mine pretty often for a few days. I don't have an ultrasonic going in mine though. Just a wicking evaporating humidifier that runs 24/7. Not really a complicated setup at all.
I'm doing a monotub now and I've had to mist that one too but not nearly as often. I'll probably stick to using both methods.
Either way, neither method really takes much work.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: jbaby007]
#22030123 - 08/01/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jbaby007 said:
It really doesn't get any simpler than a plastic tub. Thank god they're easy to find and cheap as hell.
I agree, but i did not want to have a bunch of dub tubs, was not and still am not sure the rh in my area would make a mono as effective without opening and misting all the time. 30 bucks for the greenhouse seemed to me to be the safest way to go since i have timers, US humidifiers. My wife would not want a bunch of tubs in a corner somewhere, shes picky. In the end the greenhouse is what worked best for my given situation.
Like i said ill give monos a try once i finish the grow room. Humidified to 50% and cooled/heated to 72. Im just cleaning it out and sterilizing it.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22030130 - 08/01/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sterilizing...?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22030176 - 08/01/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just excessive cleaning lol. Bad lingo haha
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22037247 - 08/03/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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More and more pins forming while some pins have strated to grow up. Still have primordia forming and more knoting. Ive lost count of them all.
 Hows it looking?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22037318 - 08/03/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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looks rather wet to me, think you might get a problem with the caps soon. and i'm not 100% sure i like the look of the sub..
dialing in that gh of yours can be finicky man.. just do your best to keep things moist but still allow the mushrooms to dry so they arent sitting wet in the fc over time..
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The sub does look a little bit weird. Maybe some metabolites forming?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
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it has a yellowish look to it too yeah, and also how themyc itself looks and have grown. even more of a good reason to not have it so wet.
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The yellow is the flash from the camera. Im looking at it now and its coir brown and myc white. It does seem a bit wet so ill stop misting that tub. So dry cake wet tub...i can see the diiferece in the 2 methods now lol. Thanks for helping me out.
Would it be wise to take the wet tub out of the martha and let it dry just a bit?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22037534 - 08/03/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You have the tub inside the martha too?? That explains a lot. Yes, take it out.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22037551 - 08/03/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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its not a tub its one half of a dub tub isnt it? like a tray with tall edges?
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Oh if that's the case, it's fine. But I wouldn't call half a dub tub in a martha a tub, that's.. a little confusing. More like a tall tray at that point.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22037563 - 08/03/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah the tubs are just tubs without top. That is the reason i didnt want to touch the humidifier. The extra misting is making them wet so once this one is a bit more dry ill put it back and remove them when i mist.
Im still learning and appreciate the help. Please bear with my noob behavior, hopefully the extra wetness wont be an issue, i hear PE drinks a lot.
So ill say tray from now on to remove confusion, i appologize for that.
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to be honest I dont know this set up looks at all, supposedly its a martha with a pc fan under perlite somewhere?
i'd like to see a pic..
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Okay so yeah all you should do right now is cut back on misting that one. Just watch the surface of the cake and the tray/tub and mist each as it loses its shininess.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22037609 - 08/03/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Id take a pic but i replaced it with a vicks coolmist yesterday. It was a pc fan in small tub with holes to keep perlite off but allow air to flow in and out. That tub was burried under damp perlite.
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Inocuole said: Okay so yeah all you should do right now is cut back on misting that one. Just watch the surface of the cake and the tray/tub and mist each as it loses its shininess.
You got it boss, i just read to mist an hour or 2 after the surface moisture is gone, is that to long to wait or true?
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22037635 - 08/03/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eh, I usually don't want to come back an hour or two later so if I check and it looks dry, I mist it lightly.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Inocuole]
#22037655 - 08/03/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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waiting an hour is something we say so you dont go overmist it and know its not still moist from last misting.
inoc knows whats up so he just mists if it looks dry
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Thanks much, ill keep a close eye on it the next few days and see how things go, because of you guys i know what to dry and to wet loon like haha. Now to master keeping it between those two looks.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22081374 - 08/12/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry so delayed, had a seizure and have been resting. Gonna test these babies in a couple days. Got 63.2 dry grams first flush from the first 2 tubs. With everyones help they turned out nice, no funky caps, very solid, short and stout.
Now im just waiting on the fat fuckers to start, looking forward to the 2nd flush.
Also spawned 2 6 qt tubs of b+ and a small 3 qt tub of PESA with the leftovers from a g2g master jar. I g2g transfered 12 jars, and lc inoculated a 4 qt grain bag of PESA and did test jars of my PE LC.
Wish me luck, here is a pic 2 or 3 days before i took them down.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22082228 - 08/12/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man I love PESA...one of my favorites...
and good vibes.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Darkhome]
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Darkhome said: Man I love PESA...one of my favorites...
and good vibes.
Much thanks. I do enjoy PESA trips but these PE take the cake for me.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22082854 - 08/12/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice work, man.
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All 6 qts of PESA WBS are super aggressive. Today is day 3 for those jars and id say they are all 30-50% colonized. Going to spawn them into a 30 qt tray. I have a b+ master jar that will be ready to transfer to new jars so ill have 2 30 qt trays (b+ and PESA), 2 large PE cakes, 2 small PESA cakes, 4 PE 6 qt tubs, 2 B+ 6 qt tubs, and a 3 qt PESA. If all goes well i shouldnt have to grow cubes for a bit and can move on to edibles and medicinals.
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
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Don't forget to take some prints...
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: Darkhome]
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2nd flush is drying now, got some pretty big shrooms this flush. Here is a nice pic of some of the bigger ones. Enjoy!
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Re: First timer, SW PE. [Re: lbot1983]
#22132187 - 08/23/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice job!!!
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