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Bag tek question
    #21850805 - 06/24/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So for my first time growing I've chosen to do a bag tek because it sounds the most simple. Anyways I would like you guys to look at the steps of my bag tek that I bought online and let me know if the instructions are leaving anything out or not or any suggestions. Here's the link http://sampedros.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/bag-tek-mushroom-growing-kit.html ;   Thanks guys!


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21850811 - 06/24/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21850813 - 06/24/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it's the second link my bad


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851027 - 06/24/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I hope you know that's an oyster kit...


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851091 - 06/24/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I know oyster spores come with it, I will be using golden teachers, not oyster spores.. Any advice or does the instructions seem pretty foolproof?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851103 - 06/24/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I was told this would work for cubes, is that not  correct?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851134 - 06/24/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno. But it says a 400gm yield which I'm sure is wet weight. I bet you wouldn't crack an oz, but who knows.

I've seen 2 or 3 successful grow kits, but I've also seen hundreds crash and burn.

I don't even see a link to purchase it or how much it costs.
I'd save your money man


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851154 - 06/24/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

those instructions and their choke bag FC are always crap.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: spacechildo]
    #21851163 - 06/24/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

spacechildo said:
those instructions and their choke bag FC are always crap.



Lol


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851169 - 06/24/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

here's the link and it's only about $15.. why don't you think I would get at least a dry oz off of it?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851175 - 06/24/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Bag tek question [Re: spacechildo]
    #21851177 - 06/24/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

why do you say that? I know it's not the best way to do it, but do you think it would work for a newbie like me?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851187 - 06/24/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

because grow kits for the overwhelming part, are complete shit.

They cut corners to save money, who knows how lng they even sterilized that. Oysters are much more aggressive than cubes, so I'm not sure how well using an oyster kit for cubensis will be

And unless you want a mod bitching at you, I'd quit the double and triple posting


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851191 - 06/24/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

what grow kit would you recommend, Buck513? it's not just an oyster kit it says you can use it on many different kinds of mushrooms, which I would think cubensis would also work on those because they sell cube spores as well.. Aren't the ingredients in this kit the same as you would use for cubes?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851212 - 06/24/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

There's not a single grow kit out there i would put my name behind.
That's been my whole point:facepalm:

Its way cheaper to buy things separately.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851224 - 06/24/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The point is, he won't recommend any grow kit to you. Do a few searches and learn the teks yourself. I learned everything i know without asking a single question on here. So can you.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851226 - 06/24/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This whole grow kit thing is such an old topic.
Seriously, everyone knows they're shit.

Op I'm gonna leave you with a link to this thread
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19058406/fpart/1/vc/1

Enjoy:cookiemonster:


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851229 - 06/24/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You just said earlier that you've seen 2 or 3 kits work..I'm doing this for the simplicity of it because it's my first time, the pf tek and all that shit seems to complicated for me.. No need to facepalm me:smile:


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851231 - 06/24/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Buck513 said:
There's not a single grow kit out there i would put my name behind.
That's been my whole point:facepalm:

Its way cheaper to buy things separately.



Aw you beat me to it!


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21851254 - 06/24/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I bought this kit for 15 dollars, I doubt I could buy all of the equipment for this price.. Other than them sucking, etc. what is the reasoning as to why this kit sucks. So in a nutshell I won't get any shrooms out of it in the end or what? You guys are just saying it sucks without giving any reasoning


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851263 - 06/24/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok well you said its for oysters, so what is the substrate composed of?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851265 - 06/24/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

blackhawks90 said:
You just said earlier that you've seen 2 or 3 kits work..I'm doing this for the simplicity of it because it's my first time, the pf tek and all that shit seems to complicated for me.. No need to facepalm me:)




Just take your time and go over the pf tek when I started I too found everything complicated but I looked at the things I didn't get that's all it takes. Just use the search function


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21851270 - 06/24/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

rye grain is the substrate.. here's the whole list of what it comes with. A sterilized 500g rye grain mushroom growing bag.
A large fruiting bag & perlite.
*MUSHROOM SPORES ARE NO LONGER INCLUDED IN THIS KIT*
Casing mix.
Alcohol swabs for cleaning.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851274 - 06/24/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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I bought this kit for 15 dollars, I doubt I could buy all of the equipment for this price.. Other than them sucking, etc. what is the reasoning as to why this kit sucks. So in a nutshell I won't get any shrooms out of it in the end or what? You guys are just saying it sucks without giving any reasoning




after simply skimming through your link I can name a few:

pre-sterilized grains. how were they sterilized? prepped? how long have the bag been sitting before it got to you?
casing a pound of grains with verm? :uhoh: no thanks.

the humidity tent is just a simple choke bag. it will be a bad FC for cubensis and a horrible one for oysters.

the instructions are just :wow: but they can be thrown away :shrug:

so you're getting a pound of grains and a small bag of verm for 15$.
that's kinda crappy! bag of verm+brf is cheaper than that.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: spacechildo]
    #21851284 - 06/24/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ok if the instructions are shit, what would you recommend me to do?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: nooberst]
    #21851289 - 06/24/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I guess you didnt read the thread i linked to you.
And I told you they're shit because they cut corners, and over charge.
Well since you bought it, be sure to update us. On second thought I doubt you'd get half an oz. Youre fruiting straight from grain:lmafo:

You can buy all the matertials you need to get started for 50 or less.

10 bucks or so on jars, some brf, perlite, a tote. That's just about it.

You can grow ounces easily and consistently with the pf tek. You can muster up a few grams or so from a kit. Be sure to keep us posted,

OP, check out cronicrs thread "my 50 dollar adventure"


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851290 - 06/24/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just followed your link and that kit is a serious waste of time.
Included in the kit are as follows:
1 bag of rye with self healing injection port
1 small bag of verm casing
1 small tent with some perlite
2 alcohol swabs
1 tree oyster syringe

Seriously this is a huge waste of time. Just look up a simple tek on here man, you won't regret it.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Buck513]
    #21851311 - 06/24/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you can't fruit off rye, what do they fruit off of?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851342 - 06/24/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can fruit off of rye if you case it with the verm, but for a whole pound of rye that is a little tiny bit of verm. Also, your yield will be greatly diminished.

BRF cakes are great, so look up the pf tek, and you could also mix your colonized rye with pasteurized hpoo or coco coir and lay trays or mix into a monotub. Possibilities are endless when you do the research and learn for yourself.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21851344 - 06/24/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Did you do any research at all?

You CAN fuit from grain, 20 years ago it was the norm.
Then it was discovered you get shitty fucking yields, and fruiting from grain is just all bad.  No one does that


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: natedawgnow]
    #21852029 - 06/24/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

so should i buy more verm for the grain?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21852037 - 06/24/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

rather buy a brick of coir if the grains doesnt contam before they're colonized.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21852044 - 06/24/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just follow the instructions


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: azur]
    #21852112 - 06/24/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I do bag grows quite a bit, it's simple and for someone only looking to make a small amount it's not a bad option. I would spawn the 1lb of grain into 5lbs of hpoo in a mycobag. Wait for it to fully colonize then case it. Can fruit directly in the bag and get decent results or take the cake out and place in SGFC. If you're wanting to keep to a bag that would probably be your best bet.


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: Trickyricky217]
    #21855988 - 06/25/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Trickyricky217, how much on average do you yield on bag grows?


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Re: Bag tek question [Re: blackhawks90]
    #21856738 - 06/25/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hard to say, varies from grow to grow on a variety of factors but if I had to put an average on it I would say an ounce dry weight. Keep in mind though this is just to put a number on it like you ask, it could be better or worse.


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