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Offlineblingbling
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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16374805 - 06/13/12 01:14 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

vega was my favourite character in street fighter.


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cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

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euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

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if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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OfflineR0B0G3N3S1S
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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21812599 - 06/16/15 06:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Vegans are from Vega.

Vegetarians are from Vegetaria.




Maybe meat eating originated from canibalism, fish was probably seperate.


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: R0B0G3N3S1S] * 1
    #21813611 - 06/16/15 04:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I think for humans a vegetarian diet is just as natural as a meat-based diet; we can easily adapt to different environments and circumstances.

There are lots of people living on third world countries that can't afford meat, so their diet is mostly, if not only, vegetables. There are also those villages living outside 'normal society' that require hunting for survival, their lands being not suitable for farming. We also have people from the cities that have a wide variety of choice...

Now to the question that seems to be popping on this thread "Is it morally right to eat meat?"
I don't think so, but I won't go into arguments. Instead I'll just drop this here.

I think it's really easy to "just eat meat", specially when it's easily accessible and processed. It would be interesting to see those in favor of such action create a bond with any kind of animal to later kill it with their bare hands and rip it apart for the pleasure of eating.
Funny how some of those would go on to profess things such as "we are one", "every being is conscious" and the likes.

I would like to quote H.D.Thoreau here:

"One farmer says to me, 'You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make bones with;' and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying his system with the raw material of bones, walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plough along in spite of every obstacle. Some things are really necessaries of life in some circles, the most helpless and diseased, which in others are luxuries merely, and in others still are entirely unknown."

"There is a certain class of unbelievers who sometimes ask me such question as, if I think I can live on vegetable food alone; and to strike at the root of the matter at once, - for the root is faith, - I am accustomed to answer such, that i can live on board nails. If they cannot understand that, they cannot understand much that I have to say."

And yes, I am a vegetarian (for 3 years now).

EDIT: nice necro


Edited by DoggSnoop (06/16/15 05:28 PM)


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: DoggSnoop] * 1
    #21817257 - 06/17/15 08:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, people have been eating meat for millions of years. I don't see how that would pertain to anyone's personal diet in a developed country in this day and age. People back then killed each other with spears and shit, does that mean it's alright for you to go do it? You can get every nutrient that you need from a vegan diet if you take supplements, and i'm sure a baby could take supplements too. I take a vegan b12 supplement that comes in a liquid form that even a baby could take. You don't need as much protein as you think you do, but yes it is vital, and yes you can get all the protein you need from a vegetarian/vegan diet. There are many different plant combinations, and even plants by themselves, that form a complete protein when eaten.

When i switched to vegetarianism i started to feel a lot more energetic. These days i'm a vegan and i'm overweight because i eat all day. If you saw me on the street you would never be able to guess from my appearance that i'm a vegan.

With the remarkable ability that humans have to form and communicate complex abstract thoughts, and to contemplate all sorts of philosophic questions, it bamboozles me why anyone in the developed world these days would see it as acceptable to cage an animal for its entire life and then brutally slaughter it for the frivolous reason that they liked what it tastes like. Since the day i started thinking about it, it has been abundantly clear to me that since i wouldn't like for that to happen to myself, it's probably wise not to do that to my fellow creatures.


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: Cosmopolite]
    #21817827 - 06/17/15 02:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

When we speak of a vegetarian diet, that can cover a lot of ground.  Merely eliminating meat is only a part of that story.  What replaced the meat?

If we say soy, then we are fucked.  Soy is crap, it's absolute garbage, and it's in freaking everything.  Literally 95% of soy is Monsanto RoundUp ready nasty ass garbage.  It's all GMO, it's an endocrine disruptor, and worse.  Just one example.


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #21818524 - 06/17/15 07:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Soy-lent - mere coincidence?


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21826850 - 06/19/15 03:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It actually kinda is, because of our teeth and jaw structure. (a study revealed this by some russian scientist). But! we need B12 (and many other substances) which is only in meat. So anyway, vegetarianism is not good at least while you're young.


Edited by hobowizard (06/19/15 03:07 PM)


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OfflineR0B0G3N3S1S
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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: hobowizard]
    #21830530 - 06/20/15 08:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Even our ape ancestors hunt in groups for meat,


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: Cosmopolite]
    #21849956 - 06/24/15 08:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Cosmopolite said:
Yes, people have been eating meat for millions of years. I don't see how that would pertain to anyone's personal diet in a developed country in this day and age. People back then killed each other with spears and shit, does that mean it's alright for you to go do it? You can get every nutrient that you need from a vegan diet if you take supplements, and i'm sure a baby could take supplements too. I take a vegan b12 supplement that comes in a liquid form that even a baby could take. You don't need as much protein as you think you do, but yes it is vital, and yes you can get all the protein you need from a vegetarian/vegan diet. There are many different plant combinations, and even plants by themselves, that form a complete protein when eaten.

When i switched to vegetarianism i started to feel a lot more energetic. These days i'm a vegan and i'm overweight because i eat all day. If you saw me on the street you would never be able to guess from my appearance that i'm a vegan.

With the remarkable ability that humans have to form and communicate complex abstract thoughts, and to contemplate all sorts of philosophic questions, it bamboozles me why anyone in the developed world these days would see it as acceptable to cage an animal for its entire life and then brutally slaughter it for the frivolous reason that they liked what it tastes like. Since the day i started thinking about it, it has been abundantly clear to me that since i wouldn't like for that to happen to myself, it's probably wise not to do that to my fellow creatures.



yep, im a vegetarian for the same reason.

natural or not, how we treat the animals is not OK at all, worst, its a fucking crime against nature, against life.


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: swimmingfast]
    #21850117 - 06/24/15 08:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's natural for humans to eat meat as it is natural for humans to eat vegetarian.


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21850120 - 06/24/15 08:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Is it natural for humans to eat Oxycontin?


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: Sun King]
    #21850135 - 06/24/15 09:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: Sun King]
    #21850144 - 06/24/15 09:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Sun King said:
Is it natural for humans to eat Oxycontin?




Doesn't that have thorns in it? You gotta be an oxy-moron to try that

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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: Khancious]
    #21850157 - 06/24/15 09:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This is when I'm supposed to get back into it, after my sloppy albeit correct response.


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21850206 - 06/24/15 09:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

What is correct? Last time I heard that term was in school and mainstream media.

:heytheresexy:


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: Khancious]
    #21850253 - 06/24/15 09:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Khancious said:
:heytheresexy:



:girlofdisapproval:


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Re: Vegetarianism, is it natural for humans? [Re: liquidlounge]
    #21850277 - 06/24/15 09:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:icouldjusteatyou:


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