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Achillita
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How long did you have them for?
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scorps1212
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Ok now I'm very confused. I must have been reading this whole thread wrong. I was under the impression that dry truffles are less potent than fresh truffles. I think I read that fresh truffles are more potent than cubes but dry truffles are about 2/3 the potency of cubes. But you mentioned 17g fresh will give me a good trip but 17g dry will be talking to God. Lol. So your saying dry truffles are more potent than fresh?
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Achillita
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Compared to cubes that is, Fresh to fresh, and dried to dried.
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scorps1212
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My mate received them in the post 5 days ago. I got mine off him 4 days ago and stuck them in the airing cupboard with the hot water on constant for 24 hours (airing cupboard was pretty warm seeing the water was constantly on.
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scorps1212
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Ah ok. Gotcha. Now I get it. But I still don't see why I felt nothing at all.
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Achillita
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Are you on meds? Previous tolerance? It might have just been bunk stones
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scorps1212
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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Achillita]
#21873194 - 06/29/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope.....no meds bud. I had nothing to eat for about 5 hours before taking them. All I had to drink was the orange juice that I consumed them with. Was at my own house so as comfortable as I could be. No interruptions.
Could it be cause I was sick so I bought them all up and down the toilet? But this didn't seem to bother me when I threw up on cubes.
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Achillita
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How long into it did you puke?
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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Achillita]
#21873231 - 06/29/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Threw up about 20-30 minutes after taking them
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scorps1212
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20 mins after taking them. I threw up before I started coming up. When I threw up on cubes, I was already up for about 29 mins before I was sick
Edited by scorps1212 (06/29/15 11:51 AM)
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tryptkaloids
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you probably didn't break them down enough to actually ingest psilocybin. and the reason dry will give you a stronger trip is because all that water.
20 grams fresh sclerotia is equal to 40 fresh cubes because the cubes have so much more water content. it's the same reason 3g dried sclerotia is equal to 10g regarding potency they are more potent by weight. just like how an ounce of fresh mushrooms is about an eighth of dried
sorry you didn't trip. damn nausea I'm lucky in that area 100+ trips and no nausea at all
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scorps1212
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Ah right ok. So it could be down to not breaking them down enough and me throwing them back up.
Sticking with the 'not breaking them down enough' issue. I take it you can eat truffles on their own right? Without brewing or blending them into orange or lemon juice. But surely if you just eat them as they are, you won't be breaking them down to injest the psilocybin. So if I didn't break them down enough, wouldn't that be just like me eating them straight up?
100+ trips and no throwing up......you lucky bugger. Lol.
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Truffles are more dense and take a bit longer to absorb. When you vomited, most of the actives came up with it. This happened to me the first time i ate them. The taste was too much for me. The next time I took them I took small bits and gulped them down with o.j. to cover the taste. I had a nice trip. Sorry about your luck bro. Get some more and try again.
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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Ncogneato]
#21873841 - 06/29/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah ok. Yeah they were a nightmare to take. At least with cubes, when blended with the OJ the cubes float. With the truffles, they sunk to the bottom of the glass so I had to scoop them out with a spoon and slosh down with the OJ. Lol.
I think next time I'll take cubes from now on. I have had 2 awesome trips with just 5g of them and know that it works for me.
Thanks for the info bud.
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Buck513

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scorps1212 said: Ok now I'm very confused. I must have been reading this whole thread wrong. I was under the impression that dry truffles are less potent than fresh truffles. I think I read that fresh truffles are more potent than cubes but dry truffles are about 2/3 the potency of cubes. But you mentioned 17g fresh will give me a good trip but 17g dry will be talking to God. Lol. So your saying dry truffles are more potent than fresh?
Sheesh. I'll repeat myself again.
Dry stones are less potent than cubes, fresh stones are more potent than cubes. They're only more potent when fresh because they have a smaller water content.
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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Ncogneato]
#21873866 - 06/29/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm very new to stones.. but i'm pretty sure you can just eat them. I make it a habit to chew up my psyches into a gooey mush before swallowing so my stomach isn't doing so much work. to answer your question, no. if you eat sclerotia and you don't throw up your stomach acid will break it up and release the psilocybin and you'll trip. the reason it takes so long to kick in is because your body needs to break up the shroom to get to the goodies inside. if you get rid of the fungi before you get any psilocybin you won't trip
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tryptkaloids
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100+ trips and no throwing up......you lucky bugger. Lol
not even that, no feeling sick (accept one time but I was already sick) and no bad trips. i guess i just have a stable mind and body trip on my friend!
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filthyknees
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well if you threw up them up shortly after ingestion you would need to eat more and not throw up to have a trip....
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scorps1212
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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Buck513]
#21874506 - 06/29/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Buck513 said:
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scorps1212 said: Ok now I'm very confused. I must have been reading this whole thread wrong. I was under the impression that dry truffles are less potent than fresh truffles. I think I read that fresh truffles are more potent than cubes but dry truffles are about 2/3 the potency of cubes. But you mentioned 17g fresh will give me a good trip but 17g dry will be talking to God. Lol. So your saying dry truffles are more potent than fresh?
Sheesh. I'll repeat myself again.
Dry stones are less potent than cubes, fresh stones are more potent than cubes. They're only more potent when fresh because they have a smaller water content.
Yeah I understand now bud. All is clear now. Cheers. I wasn't reading the potency as fresh to fresh and dry to dry.
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scorps1212
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tryptkaloids said: I'm very new to stones.. but i'm pretty sure you can just eat them. I make it a habit to chew up my psyches into a gooey mush before swallowing so my stomach isn't doing so much work. to answer your question, no. if you eat sclerotia and you don't throw up your stomach acid will break it up and release the psilocybin and you'll trip. the reason it takes so long to kick in is because your body needs to break up the shroom to get to the goodies inside. if you get rid of the fungi before you get any psilocybin you won't trip
See I couldn't imagine chewing them straight up. So you chew up your shrooms and then wash them down with a drink after? I could try that next time. Chew up the shrooms to a goo and wash them down with OJ
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