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Truffles vs Shrooms
    #21850167 - 06/24/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So.....from the same site I bought the grow kit from a few months ago, my mate has ended up buying already made truffles.

Now I told him it's much better to grow your own shrooms but he wanted to try the truffles this site from Amsterdam sell.

They arrived today and look so much different to shrooms. In the delivery it came with a note saying although a lot of people say truffles are less intense and less visual than shrooms, this is not proven correct.

My mate is giving me 10g of truffles to try. Now my question is do I do the whole 10g in a LemTek or do 5g in LemTek? I had an amazing experience on 5g of shrooms in LemTek but am worried that if truffles are a lot less potent, me doing 5g of truffles in a LemTek will hardly have an affect on me.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21850204 - 06/24/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Truffles are more potent by weight to fresh mushrooms. But not to dried ones. Here's the mushroom dosage calculator. It'll help you get your dosage.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21850210 - 06/24/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Achillita beat me to it....use the calculator.

5g cubensis dry vs 5g truffles dry are very different things. Do some reading on dosing and find out why because it doesn't sound like you understand what you are doing.
Also you are not growing your own mushrooms. Someone did all the hard work for you and you are opening and misting a bag. Doing the reading, putting in the time, and doing things the right way are what is so satisfying about growing your own. the potency of his stuff vs your stuff literally could come down to genetics. You have not grown your own mushrooms. If your kit is a success, even then, you have produced sub surface sclerotia.

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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21850329 - 06/24/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

10 grams of fresh truffles should be the approximate equivalent to about 2 - 2.5 grams of dry cubensis

If I were in your shoes I would take the entire 10 grams.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21850544 - 06/24/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Achillita......Cheers for that. Very helpful. Although it does say for a Level 5 trip, you need to only do 5g of Mexicana. I did 5g the first 2 times of doing them and I wouldn't say my trip was that in the description of a Level 5 trip. I'd say I had between a Level 3 and level 4 trip on 5g.

SteveRogers.......can I have your autograph and maybe your shield? I know what your saying bud. I wanna grow my own from scratch. I have only just managed to bring the misses round to me taking shrooms, the next step is to talk her round to me growing them. I think after I have tried the truffles, I will talk to her about growing them.

Ncogneto.......Cheers for that bud. Just looking on the site he bought them from and they also say 10g for a medium trip and 15g for a heavy trip. So yeah, truffles are less potent than dried shrooms.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21850568 - 06/24/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You are ahead of the game just by being interested and asking questions. Sclerotia, whether its ATL# 7, Mexicana, or Tamp. if you just want invitro stones, are actually very easy and discrete to produce. You don't need a fruiting chamber or worry about spawning to anything. The user "Stonesun" is a wizard in this area. Check his grow logs out. they are quite detailed and impressive results every time.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13431948/page/1

Enjoy your travels in the field.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: SteveRogers]
    #21850794 - 06/24/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Definitely do the lemon tek as you may be wishing for a stronger experience otherwise. I've had six different varieties of truffles all from Amsterdam. The "variety" is just a marketing ploy for the length of time the truffles are grown. I've used the tek on 15g of some potent buggers. It was roughly around 3.5-4g of cubes. Had a bit of tolerance though. Enjoy the ride.

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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Soul-Shine]
    #21850936 - 06/24/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

MY guess is the truffles you have are fresh, so that's why 10 grams is a good dose.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Achillita]
    #21855979 - 06/25/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cheers Steve......I'll have a read of that. As the woman turned around and said she can't be happy with me growing in the house and was very to the point about it. So looks like growing my own is out of the question. But I'll still read the link to see if I can get around it.

Soulshine......Yeah I think I'm going to do 12g LemTek just to be on the plus side of a nice visual trip.

Achillita......I have just found out today that yes they are fresh. Not dried out yet. So I think I'm gunna stick them all on some newspaper and stick them in a warm cupboard to dry a bit, on Monday I will take 12g out to do Monday, and leave the rest to completely dry out for another session a few weeks later.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21856172 - 06/25/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can keep truffles in the fridge in a paper bag for either a few weeks or months.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Achillita]
    #21856290 - 06/25/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Aww.. I remember reading somewhere that truffles are more potent in general :frown:. I guess it does depend the genetics,I was reading a write up on a truffles tek and they were recommending mexicana and galindoi spores  to make truffles and said they are 2x more potent fresh then fresh mushrooms and dried about 2/3 the potency .. Re reading it I see the 2/3 dried means its less potent then dried mushrooms. but even still.. most shrooms i've had at once was like roughly 4 grams and I tripped out hard! Let us know how your 10 grams hits ya :laugh:

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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21856754 - 06/25/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Steve.....checked out that link. Very helpful. But......I still gotta have the jars made up and that's gunna be an issue to hide. And I'll have no place to store them in natural light without her seeing them. I got a loft but there's no natural light up there.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21856761 - 06/25/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Abductee......Yeah I will do mate. I'll set up another thread once I've done them. The site says 10g for a medium trip and 15g for a heavy trip. So I've decided to go 12g LemTek.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21856885 - 06/25/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

scorps1212 , now i'm currious.. how my psychedelic experiences rank.. I have to say, in the past i've done what I thought was alot. I would say I explored more than experimented but I never did anything like dropped ten hits or eaten a half O of shrooms.. I'm thinking is it possible to have a more trippy trip than i've had.lol
  I took shrooms once the night after september 11th. I swear I astrologicaly projected myself under the debri and tried to comfort a survivor.. the grief of all that death was too much that my spirit went to play with the seals and they were swimming around me, their snoots in my face, it wasnt enough to bring me out of my grief and I met a whale who told me her story of how she was a native american in her previous life and she through herself off the cliff and then became a whale. she helped me relax by telling me to  take deep breaths and with every breath we sunk deeper and deeper into the ocean.. at that point I was completely relaxed and no longer emotionaly distraught, but in the deep it was black and she told me that there are things down here bigger than her.. so I came back to my body and told my gf who was with me of my trip.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21856931 - 06/25/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Let us know how it goes. If your lemon teking make into some lemonade and strain the spent flesh bodies. No nausea fast come up more intense its a win win.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21857164 - 06/25/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Steve.....checked out that link. Very helpful. But......I still gotta have the jars made up and that's gunna be an issue to hide. And I'll have no place to store them in natural light without her seeing them. I got a loft but there's no natural light up there.




Ya I hear you on that one. Best not to hide it from the wife.
Mine was of a similar mindset and rightfully so. Then I gave her some....and everything changed. You will be happier in a solid marriage than if you hide it have great time and end up single. Stonesun is THE MAN though keep him in mind if your situation changes.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Achillita]
    #21858276 - 06/26/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Truffles are more potent by weight to fresh mushrooms. But not to dried ones. Here's the mushroom dosage calculator. It'll help you get your dosage.




Maybe I misread it but, truffles when wet are more potent than dried cubes.
But dry stones are not more potent than cubes, they're about 2/3 the potency.

If that's what you meant, then yes that's correct.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21858720 - 06/26/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The potency of commercial sclerotia / truffles is a bit unpredictable. This was something I posted on another thread:

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I was thinking about the potency of these things, which is hard to judge until you eat them. There are two frequent scenarios - one is that you sit there in a very mild trip thinking "this is total bullshit" and the other is that you buy something where the producers make extravagant claims for the potency, you think "yeah right" and then realize, as the dimensions of the room start shifting, that THEY WERE NOT FUCKING KIDDING.

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The potential potency range for sclerotia is quite wide. Based on comparing my experiences with other people's posts, this is how I would see the situation:

If it's weak, 15g sclerotia might give you a trip that compares to 1.5g cubes. If it's average commercial stuff, nothing special, it might compare to between 2 and 2.5g. If it's decently strong it might be equivalent to 3g, and if it's super-potent it could reach maybe 4g. To get a trip equivalent to 5g of cubes off 15g sclerotia would be at the outer-limits of possibility I would say.




The stuff about truffles being less intense and less visual is not true, but bear in mind that a lot of dosage advice from commercial sellers is fairly cautious and aimed at first-time users.......if you ate 15g of typical mexicana you would most likely be underwhelmed.....on the other hand sclerotia can occasionally turn out to be viciously potent, and 15g might be a fairly challenging trip. Usually the seller will give some clue as to how potent the stuff they are selling is supposed to be.:peace:


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: Aldebaran]
    #21859960 - 06/26/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Abductee......Wow. That's trippy. I've never had an outer body experience yet. The most I've got so far is as I was going in and out of the trip, it was like I was entering water when in the trip, and coming out of water when coming out of the trip. My breathing changed between in and out of trip too. As I was just going in or just coming out, I would be holding my breathe and then breathe a big breath as I was through the change. If that makes sense.

Lovesquare.......I most definitely will leave a report once I have done it mate. And I gotta say, I say I will be doing LemTek but I don't like lemons, I use orange juice instead. But I don't think there is an orangetek Is there? Lol. So I won't be making lemonade. I like bottled lemonade but not lemonade made with fresh whole lemons. Sounds weird right? Lol.

Steve......Yeah I have told her I would love for her to try them with me and how much she'll love it, but she not budging. She's too set in her own ways and not very open minded to try stuff at all. Your lucky dude.

Alderbaran.......Cheers for that info mate. Problem is the seller didn't mention how potent the mexicana is. Just said 10g medium trip and 15g high trip. 2 times that I would class a medium enjoyable trip with visuals, I did 5g cubes in a LemTek. I am aiming to get the same sort of trip with the truffles. So if what you previously posted in another thread is true, I'm gunna have to be taking 20+grams. Ah man. If this is true, after the truffles are gone, it's definitely going to have to be cubes from now on.


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Re: Truffles vs Shrooms [Re: scorps1212]
    #21859984 - 06/26/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's fresh weight though. 20 grams of fresh screlotia compared to 40 grams of fresh cubes. Now if the stones were dried it'd be like 6 grams or so to compare to your 5 grams dried cubes.

Also, your 5 gram would have been 50 grams if it was fresh. And depending on species and potency, 15 grams could get you a level 5. Just check out the calculator.


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