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How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans?
    #21849768 - 06/24/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey everybody, I have attempted pan cyans twice with complete failure besides two jars which may have stalled out. I have some pan cyan Hawaiians coming in the mail today and was wondering how do I prepare horse manure for the jars? And would a 1:1:1:1 ratio be sufficient?


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ericfloyd64]
    #21849878 - 06/24/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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a 1:1:1:1 ratio



A ratio of what to what?


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: motherchimp]
    #21849902 - 06/24/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Poo:brf:verm:water... for pan. Cakes.


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: Grey]
    #21850067 - 06/24/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And then I would crumble and case the cakes. But how do I prepare the horse manure?


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ericfloyd64]
    #21850114 - 06/24/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Field capacity is key, and imo determines the success far more than pasteurization/sterilization. For cakes just sterilize like how you would for pftek. For bulk I use:

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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ericfloyd64]
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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ShroominMe]
    #21850543 - 06/24/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So I do not need to do anything special to the horse manure before I load the mix of 1:1:1:1 verm, flour, manure, water? Just make sure the whole substrate mix is at field capacity? Also is tap water fine?


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ericfloyd64]
    #21850674 - 06/24/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

tap or spring water is preferred.


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21850741 - 06/24/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dude, you should just utilize the search bar at the top right of the site. There are so many good pan. Cyan teks out there. Good luck to ya.


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: Lazarus787]
    #21850746 - 06/24/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

dude you should post one of those results if you're just going to post to tell someone to use the search engine

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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21850786 - 06/24/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Personally, I prefer not to incriminate myself.

Just trying to help out a guy with some legitimate information that is readily available.


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: Lazarus787]
    #21850821 - 06/24/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Personally, I prefer not to incriminate myself.





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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: Lazarus787]
    #21850852 - 06/24/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I soak my manure in water while making up my normal ratio BRF cakes. Then squeeze out all the moisture from the manure by handfuls. Add about an 1/4 cup maybe a bit less. I do a small handful to each half pint. Then proceeded as usual.

I like adding manure as it really helps speed things up with them but I dont fruit directly from the container itself. I use them as spawn and they work great , usually done in rwo weeks in warmer weather. Then they go to straw and Vermiculite. Im in the process of spawning to straw shortly again but into a mono this time instead of trays.

Oh the straw is soaked in manure water and whatever I have left for manure goes into the pot when pasteurized. Not much though as ive had trouble fruiting pans with a nute rich substrate so I always stick with plain straw and they fruit easy.


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21851476 - 06/24/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks everyone for the posts. I'm thinking of crumbling and casing them. What should I case them with?


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ericfloyd64]
    #21851587 - 06/24/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would recommend a 50/50 peat moss/coco coir or even peat moss alone will do the trick. If you have access to garden lime (calcium carbonate) you can add it in the ratio 1:10 for better results. Mix water with it till its moist and you can squeeze just a couple drops out of the mixture. Don't want it to wet to avoid contams. You can pastuerize if you want but its kind of unnecessary. I would just put throw it in the oven till steaming hot or even the microwave will do the trick.

There are other casing teks you can try but that's what I would reccomend.


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: Lazarus787]
    #21851659 - 06/24/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I forgot to mention. The casing layer should really only be about a half inch deep or even less. If you find that the myc starts to overlay the casing layer simply add thin layers to the spot/spots that are growing faster. It helps get a more even flush all across as opposed to only getting pins in certain spots.

Good luck to ya!


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: Lazarus787]
    #21852729 - 06/24/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks so much! Hopefully this pan cyan attempt will be successful. I will update you all with pictures


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ericfloyd64]
    #21852744 - 06/24/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also, I am going out to my friends barn that he works at to get this horse manure and he said there are a lot of mushrooms growing that look like pan cyans. I was wondering if I upload pictures could anyone identify them without a doubt for me?


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: ericfloyd64]
    #21852818 - 06/24/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well I'm pretty decent at identification of pans, but for the real experts hit up the hunting and identification forum.


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Re: How do I prepare horse manure for pan cyans? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21852905 - 06/24/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Personally, I prefer not to incriminate myself.





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I have nothing to add, but this nearly made me piss myself :rofl:


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