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Question about colonizing
    #21849599 - 06/24/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My jars have been incubating for about 2 1/2 weeks. Only 2jars look 100% consolidated. Obviously I made a noob mistake and didn't put the same amount of spores in each hole. Should I still birth all the jars and then dunk n roll? I'm following RR Let's grow mushrooms videos and Shea's  PF-tek.
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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: tooaud2]
    #21849619 - 06/24/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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tooaud2 said:
My jars have been incubating for about 2 1/2 weeks. Only 2jars look 100% consolidated. Obviously I made a noob mistake and didn't put the same amount of spores in each hole. Should I still birth all the jars and then dunk n roll? I'm following RR Let's grow mushrooms videos and Shea's  PF-tek.
Thanks!





They will always colonize at different rates

Once 100% colonized wait 7 days,  this is the consolidation period

Wait 1 week and then dunk and roll per RR's instruction


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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: tooaud2]
    #21849640 - 06/24/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The amount of spores don't need to be exact. 1/4th cc per hole is a good estimate. If the other jars haven't shown any mycelial growth by this stage, then they are likely contaminated.


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    #21849655 - 06/24/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: DampMushroom]
    #21849730 - 06/24/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Psilosoulful said:
The amount of spores don't need to be exact. 1/4th cc per hole is a good estimate. If the other jars haven't shown any mycelial growth by this stage, then they are likely contaminated.




He never said that there's no growth in the other jars, so getting him worried about contamination isn't helping


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Stop incubating regardless, cubensis species preform perfectly at 70 F in all stages of life. If you forget your cakes for a month and if they've got 25% water by volume (pf tek), consolidation will occur and the first flush will be quite heavy.




My guess is since his terminology was off on consolidation, incubation means colonizing to the op

But if incubation is occurring at higher temps stop, room temp is best

Forgetting about your cakes for a month isn't the best advice ether,  its better to keep an eye on them and learn

Being a ms injection forgetting about them for a month wont give him a "heavy harvest"


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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: DampMushroom]
    #21849764 - 06/24/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ditto- they'll likely colonize unevenly, but that's not really a problem. Just let them colonize to 100% or the gods will become angry & turn that shit green. You can birth each jar individually after they've consolidated, don't need to do them all at once.

If the jars are colonizing unevenly, you might get pins before the jar is at 100%--in that case it's better to birth them at 100% without a consolidation period. I've had cakes trap pretty bad because the pins were pressing against the sides of the jars.

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Re: Question about colonizing *DELETED* [Re: DetectiveLefty]
    #21851781 - 06/24/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: DampMushroom]
    #21851792 - 06/24/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Pinning is impossible in complete darkness. Consolidation keeps the myc in a sort of dormant stage when nutrients are fully absorbed inside the vacuoles of hyphae. Cakes are ready for action once myc begins to shrink away from the jar wall and an air gap is visible. When a thirsty cake gets dunked it will panic to start a desperate flush of hearty mushrooms and spread spores. In nature the cow paddy is colonized by the spores from an egret which picks insects off of cows backs, grasses surround the paddy and choke off the fresh air exchange, a storm supplies a sudden spike in water content and pins develop, finally a cow munches some grass to expose the paddy to fresh and humid air and pins erect into mature fruitbodies.




Eh pinning is not impossible in complete darkness. You can put a tub in complete darkness and it will still pin. I've had brf jars that i forgot about in a drawer that I never open and they still pinned invitro.


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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: DampMushroom]
    #21851816 - 06/24/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Pinning is impossible in complete darkness.



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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: DampMushroom]
    #21851929 - 06/24/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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DampMushroom said:
Pinning is impossible in complete darkness. Consolidation keeps the myc in a sort of dormant stage when nutrients are fully absorbed inside the vacuoles of hyphae. Cakes are ready for action once myc begins to shrink away from the jar wall and an air gap is visible. When a thirsty cake gets dunked it will panic to start a desperate flush of hearty mushrooms and spread spores. In nature the cow paddy is colonized by the spores from an egret which picks insects off of cows backs, grasses surround the paddy and choke off the fresh air exchange, a storm supplies a sudden spike in water content and pins develop, finally a cow munches some grass to expose the paddy to fresh and humid air and pins erect into mature fruitbodies.




You are full of incorrect info

Please stop posting already,  didn't your mom tell you to clean your room and do your homework


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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: mush madness]
    #21853622 - 06/25/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So, birth them?


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Re: Question about colonizing [Re: tooaud2]
    #21856037 - 06/25/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

birth each jar separately 7 days after it reached 100% colonization.
rinse them, dunk for 24 hrs, rinse again, then roll in dry verm!


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