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One cube different from another?
    #21849145 - 06/24/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

First question. Are cubes going to vary, if you have the exact same species? I read that some cubes are developed more for their "potency" rather than the overall quality of the experience. Is this true? If it is, it almost seems like the very best idea would be, to go pick natural growing cubes out in the fields, and make spore prints from those. Then take your natural mushroom spore prints, and use those for future grows.

Is any kind of alteration going on? Any kind of "selective breeding" that may be taking away from the natural experience? Or should I not be concerned with this in the slightest?

Next question!

On that main video about cultivating mushrooms in a fish tank, they show the man using tap water to fill up the jars, with the substrate in it. Is that really a good idea? My tap water around here sucks, and besides that, its going to have chlorine and other chemicals in it, even if its great tap water. Wouldn't bottled water be a lot better, for every endeavor involving cultivation?


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Re: One cube different from another? [Re: bennylava]
    #21849275 - 06/24/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What you want to focus on is sporeprints,agar etc and learn to section out the best growing mycelium and then save the substrain that works best for your growing condition. This way you will have a substrain/genetic that is consistent. You can just use the same type of genetics and grow same type every time.
Tapwater to fill the jars works fine, you will pressurecook them and all nastyness will be dead after that. If you are afraid of your tapwater then use what your intuition tells you to use (bottled water).


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Re: One cube different from another? [Re: qweqaz]
    #21849432 - 06/24/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok thanks that sounds like good advice.

But I still have that one question. If I obtain some spores of Cubes from one source, is there any possibility, that the experience could somehow be different, than if I obtained spores from a totally different source?

Say one source is located far and away from another source, and they have no relationship to each other. But I obtain Cubes (aka goldencaps) spores from both sources. Is there any way that the experience could ever differ, due to where I got the spores from?

Is there any truth to what I read, about some spore providers trying to produce spores that would yield a "stronger" experience? You know, trying to expand on nature like a farmer who breeds corn over a long period of time, to resist disease. Is any of that going on, anywhere?

I'm asking because I read about that going on in some places, and I want to avoid that. I want only the experience that I would get from an all natural fruit. I want the exact same experience that I'd get, if I went out to the cow pasture, and gathered up wild growing mushrooms. So I just thought I'd ask.


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Re: One cube different from another? [Re: bennylava]
    #21849946 - 06/24/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

To my knowledge there have not been any doubleblind study on mushrooms for this purpose to know for sure if one substrain of cubensis differs from another. Many people say that its just a bunch of hype to be able to sell spores easier and others say that it does matter and that there is a significant difference on the quality of the trip.
Its the same genetics (cubensis). From my own experimentation I can say that yes it does matter what type of substrain you trip on. However most important are set and setting and the time between the trips you do.
Make sure you have no tolerance built up and keep your mind stable enough for the trip at hand so you can navigate away from your own ego and plunge into the trip.


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Re: One cube different from another? [Re: qweqaz]
    #21850289 - 06/24/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How long do you go between trips? I've heard some people say 1 month.


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Re: One cube different from another? [Re: bennylava]
    #21853842 - 06/25/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mushrooms: 1-2 week

When working with higher doses of mushrooms you need more than a week for the tolerance to calm down. If you always go for >5g then you need at least 2 weeks for a good enough trip again. If you want to have pure quality to the trips when tripping hard, wait a month between the trips.


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Re: One cube different from another? [Re: qweqaz]
    #21853857 - 06/25/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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First question. Are cubes going to vary, if you have the exact same species?



Unless you're willing to go agar many many iterations there is always a huge variance, especially with multispore.

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Any kind of "selective breeding" that may be taking away from the natural experience?



IMO when you grow your own, regardless of the spore source, there is a much more intimate, personal experience with the Little Ones. 

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On that main video about cultivating mushrooms in a fish tank, they show the man using tap water to fill up the jars, with the substrate in it. Is that really a good idea? My tap water around here sucks, and besides that, its going to have chlorine and other chemicals in it, even if its great tap water. Wouldn't bottled water be a lot better, for every endeavor involving cultivation?



Yes, a pc will sterilize but won't eliminate chlorine, fluorine, heavy metals etc.  Best to spend $1 on a gallon of spring water.


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