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How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals).
    #21847902 - 06/23/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Did a search and found some things, nothing as specific as this thread. If you find something, point me that way!

I quit smoking weed/bho. I used to be a dub to eighth a day (more the latter), then moved explicitly to BHO (got down to a gram of shatter a week; much cheaper). Unfortunately circumstances arose where I had to quit cold turkey.

I don't care to get into a debate about marijuana withdrawals, but my experiences have lead me to an almost hypomanic manic state. No appetite, high anxiety, high energy, restlessness, no desire to sleep. It'd be a manic state if I still had my sex drive and night sweats/vivid dreams weren't lumped in.

I understand reducing one withdrawal symptom may affect the rest and I really think the main one is appetite related. If my stomach were full, I wouldn't be agitated and aroused (must hunt now!) and I'd probably sleep just fine. Maybe even get a good fap in.

So what do you do when you get the flu or quit smoking and have no appetite. Any advice, please?!

I've just been keeping food an arms reach away at all times and sticking to bland, low fat foods. I'm still only getting 500-1000 calories a day (6' 170lb for now...)


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21847936 - 06/23/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When youre hungry, youll eat.

People can live for weeks withot food, youll be fine.

Eventually youll get hungry, dont worry about it


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: JvF]
    #21848011 - 06/23/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: JvF]
    #21848016 - 06/23/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the support. I agree, I'm not going to die and Time will pass. It still is not a pleasant state to find myself and would like to do all I can to ease this healing process.


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21848068 - 06/23/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I mean i was the same as you. Smoking an eigth/more every day, feeling completely horrible and anxious if i spent 3 hours without smoking.

Id even wakeup early in the morning, smoke, and go back to bed.

Honestly i cant even say that smoking weed made me eat more. Towards the end i was feeling normal when i smoked and fucked up when i didnt.

It takes time(3+ weeks, maybe even longer) to feel normal again, and feeling normal wont be the way you felt when you were smoking. IME smoking kind of suppressed who i actually was, and when i came out of the hazy cloud i was trapped in, i realized how bad it sucked smoking. Not wanting to go anywhere, being lazy, everyime responsibility knocked youd say "fuuuuuuuck i have to get up and go somewhere."

That all went away for me. I feel 1000x better without it.

As far as eating goes, i gained weight after i quit smoking. Seemed like i was eating less, but for some reason i gained.

Your sleep quality will dramastically improve. Remember dreams? Yeah, youll get those back. Food will be normal again and all will be well

Hang in there brother, i guarantee the benefits of quitting greatly outweigh any benefit you think you got from smoking.

Oh, and your mental clarity will drastically improve. Youll be amazed at how smart you feel


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: JvF]
    #21848240 - 06/23/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean i was the same as you. Smoking an eigth/more every day, feeling completely horrible and anxious if i spent 3 hours without smoking.

Id even wakeup early in the morning, smoke, and go back to bed.

Honestly i cant even say that smoking weed made me eat more. Towards the end i was feeling normal when i smoked and fucked up when i didnt.

It takes time(3+ weeks, maybe even longer) to feel normal again, and feeling normal wont be the way you felt when you were smoking. IME smoking kind of suppressed who i actually was, and when i came out of the hazy cloud i was trapped in, i realized how bad it sucked smoking. Not wanting to go anywhere, being lazy, everyime responsibility knocked youd say "fuuuuuuuck i have to get up and go somewhere."

That all went away for me. I feel 1000x better without it.

As far as eating goes, i gained weight after i quit smoking. Seemed like i was eating less, but for some reason i gained.

Your sleep quality will dramastically improve. Remember dreams? Yeah, youll get those back. Food will be normal again and all will be well

Hang in there brother, i guarantee the benefits of quitting greatly outweigh any benefit you think you got from smoking.

Oh, and your mental clarity will drastically improve. Youll be amazed at how smart you feel



your experience makes me want to quit quite badly.

I'm in that hazy cloud and I have been for years :nonono:


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21848319 - 06/23/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I hate to sound preachy and when i was smoking weed there was nothing i loved more than telling people how harmless weed was...

BUT

From personal experience and from the experience of my girlfriend who had the same habit as me and quit at the same time....

Your life as a whole will improve. For some reason weed almost makes you a sheep. A philosopher non-action taker. You think about everything intensely and do nothing. Before you know it months and years pass and you realize youve had the same schedule the entire time without doing anything to stray from it.

Once again i hate preachy people and obviously weed is better than most drugs, but i liken it to psychological heroin. Anxious as hell without it, dull as a rock with it. It becomes a lifestyle, and not a good one at that.


I noticed now that im out of "the cloud," if i smoke once, i wont go back to baseline for 2 days. Im stuck in the cloud for that time. As bad as it sounds, i think weed affects us cumulatively. Takes a loooong time for it to completely stop affecting us


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: JvF]
    #21848558 - 06/24/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

100% resonate all of those experiences, personally, but, everyone is different. I envy those that don't suffer when they quit smoking. That's just not reality for a lot of people.

I want to avoid getting into debate because the recurring ideas of "I've never had that happen, you're crazy" or "you have no perspective into how I feel and why" "because you're soo different from all the other smokers, definitely crazy" is really not productive. It always leads to a 50/50 division of opinions with nothing citable beyond anecdote. I mean there's always a comical little pissing contest with how long people have smoked and how much, but come-on. I can only laugh at the same joke for so long. Let's all just agree the research is not there and that different experiences based on individual differences are great.

I am more seeking help with marijuana withdrawal management (specifically the appetite thing) from people who have experienced it or similar symptoms (flu).
I appreciate the support though for sure! Thank you!

EDIT: you know, that similar thread list is FAR more effective than my crappy searches! Go any direction you want. I got what I need, I'll pipe down and let the other kids have some fun too :P


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21848699 - 06/24/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone suffers when they quit anything. Its a change, and almost everyone hates change.

Just believe that theres a light at the end of the tunnel, there is.

Good luck my friend


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: JvF]
    #21849134 - 06/24/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

coming off any substance, especially weed, has a rebound effect. your dreams will change, as will your appetite.
id say, if youre looking to eat more, just keep some snacks around the house. also, not sure if this would help, but there is that chinese food that is loaded with MSG that makes you just want more and more of it.

lastly, if this was me, id just cook up something delicious, like a nice red steak, no way i couldn't eat that.


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: ZippoZ]
    #21849438 - 06/24/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you for your input!

Snacks help a lot. Low maintenance since I probably will only eat a few bites anyway. Quick access because who knows when the stomach pains stop long enough to eat.

Idk about MSG because it is so rich, but for that reason, steak is definitely a no-go right now. I just can't do lots of flavor. Fruit, veggies, beans, rice are great. Even oatmeal and unseasoned chicken can be a bit much.

I tried to microwave some lamb for my first dinner sober and I gagged on the smell alone. Blech.


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #21849483 - 06/24/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah I know what you mean by certain foods making you want to gag when you're quitting weed

Eat healthy is what I'd suggest. sounds like you have been


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21850648 - 06/24/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Scarfing down a couple packets of oatmeal at a good rate w/o issue right now (day four). Woooo! Normalcy is coming!

If anyone lives near Seattle, they should come over and raid my fridge before all this food goes bad. :P

Gonna have to throw away a lot of leftovers, lol.


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: Giftofdeprivation] * 1
    #21871122 - 06/28/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

exercise


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: SteelPanther]
    #21874153 - 06/29/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I suggested this to another shroomerite and they said it worked well for them, but catnip. you can find it at vitamin shoppe, gnc, or order some off of amazon.

good luck!


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: m4dScientist]
    #21874234 - 06/29/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the exercise thing really helps. When I stop thinking about my hunger (anxieties) and start focusing on the energy I need for a task, I eat.

Catnip? That's strange...


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Re: How do you stimulate appetite when you have none (MJ withdrawals). [Re: m4dScientist] * 1
    #21874922 - 06/29/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

m4dScientist said:
I suggested this to another shroomerite and they said it worked well for them, but catnip. you can find it at vitamin shoppe, gnc, or order some off of amazon.

good luck!



yes, please tell us more of this catnip


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