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Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing?
    #21847352 - 06/23/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have extra jars of un colonized substrate. I am nearing the end of my dunk period and all the stores that sell vermiculite are closed. Can I just put them in my sgfc without a casing?


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847409 - 06/23/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't quite understand what it is you're doing here. pf Tek or bulk trays? leave the uncolonized stuff out. Cakes and trays don't require a casing layer, it just helps maintain humidity against the substrate


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Ikarus]
    #21847437 - 06/23/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I forgot what the stuff is called that you roll the cake in after the dunk. But I'm out of germ. And have extra substrate


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847454 - 06/23/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

no no no. by substrate im guessing you mean you have verm/brf already mixed? it will contaminate within the first day and you will ruin your grow. you can leave the cakes in the fridge or dunked until you get to the store tomorrow.


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Sksoul]
    #21847463 - 06/23/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I sterilized the jars of un colonized substrate in my pressure cooker. Will they still contam?


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847498 - 06/23/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your supposed to use straight dry verm to coat after dunking, not brf+verm.

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if you coat with a brf+verm mix you are gonna contam in a jip


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847510 - 06/23/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just plan ahead next time and make sure you actually have vermiculite on hand before you start the dunk and roll process. As for your uncolonized cakes, if you put them in the fruiting chamber now or crumble and try to use them to cover your dunked cakes they will contam. You would have uncolonized brown rice flour out in open air ready for the first mold spore to land on and germinate.

The way I see it, you can put your cakes in the fruiting chamber now and be extra vigilant with your misting, or put them in the fridge (still in your dunk water) and get verm on them tomorrow.


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Ikarus]
    #21847541 - 06/23/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't leave the my substrate out. I kept them in the jars after I sterilized them. My cakes have been dunked for like 20 hrs now. Will waiting until tomorrow hurt them?


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847559 - 06/23/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I know that your uncolonized cakes are currently in jars. I'm saying don't do anything with them other than let them colonize.

leaving your cakes till tomorrow is not ideal, but at this point your options are limited. Put them in some fresh water to discourage bacteria growth. You've already dunked for longer than recommended


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Ikarus]
    #21847567 - 06/23/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They don't even have spores in them. They just have substrate


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847573 - 06/23/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Should I just go ahead and put them in the fc without verm?


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847584 - 06/23/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so then either inoculate them or throw them away. They aren't useful to you otherwise. Spend the couple bucks and download the let's grow mushroom videos. You'll jump way up on the learning curve.


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Ikarus]
    #21847594 - 06/23/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Damn... I'm sorry I wasted your time. I thought I did enough research for this...


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Re: Can I use uncolonized substrate as my casing? [Re: Booming_man]
    #21847633 - 06/23/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's cool man. Like I said, either stick them in the fridge in some fresh water until tomorrow, or throw them in the chamber now and keep your misting up. The surface of the cakes can dry out pretty easily without the verm, so your misting will likely need to be frequent


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