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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21847637 - 06/23/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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because it would take forever to match them up, first you gotta find the length....then the width....then the thread type..... and im pulling things apart so i keep getting more parts to do which would mean more trips to the hardware store, so in the end it would be less of a hassle to just be able to fix them at home. Plus there's the chance of running into weird parts that can't be matched from time to time or the store just happens to be out of stock or w/e.
thats a thought on just putting zinc on the stuff, but im not really sure how i would go about that, cut pennys up into tiny pieces and glue them onto the ends of bolts? thats about the only way i can think of doing it and that would take forever and wouldn't work well on nuts
im starting to think nickle is my only real option
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21847652 - 06/23/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can buy zinc in a can. It's like spray paint. I dont know how well it works though.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21847655 - 06/23/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i originally tried to paint them, but the paint filled the threads up, i used rust converter too, and that shit turns to rubber and its a complete pain in the ass getting it off, i bought a parts tumbler, been in there 2 days and the shit still isn't off, soaked them in vinegar and that helped some, back in the parts tumbler again to finish it off
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21847667 - 06/23/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nickle and tin are less active than iron. Unless you coat the steel completely it will make them rust even faster.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21847699 - 06/23/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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and i imagine when i thread the bolts in, its going to rub the plating off meaning that it will be impossible to coat them completely
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21847716 - 06/23/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I may be wrong. I think nickle may be more active than iron.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21847739 - 06/23/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're one smart & handy queer, koods.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: 1234go]
#21847743 - 06/23/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Knowing about galvanic corrosion is totally gay.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21847747 - 06/23/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If galvanic corrosion is gay, consider me Miles Davis.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: 1234go]
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21847770 - 06/23/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sadly im far to stupid to read that, there was another chart like that in the guide i posted and he tried to explain how to read it and i still didn't get it but it was worded kinda funny.
on your chart, the longer the black bar, the more 'active' it is? so a 90/10 copper nickel would be less active?
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21847846 - 06/23/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The length of the bar indicates the range of the voltage compared to a hydrogen electrode. So, magnesium will have a voltage of -1.6 to -1.7v compared to the hydrogen electrode
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21848000 - 06/23/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
makaveli8x8 said: and i imagine when i thread the bolts in, its going to rub the plating off meaning that it will be impossible to coat them completely
Hm does anti-seize ring a bell?
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21848147 - 06/23/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If possible, one solution to protect your bolts from rusting away would be to use a galvanized washer at the top of each one. You would have to replace them occassionally as the zinc in the washer will be sacrificed in place of the iron in your bolts.
Alternatively you could make little washers out of sheets of zinc or aluminum (aluminum is notorious for losing electrical contact as it corrodes though). As long as the zinc/steel interface can conduct electricity, the steel will be protected from rusting until the zinc has been consumed.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21857249 - 06/25/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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looks like zinc will work just like copper, simple vinegar, wait for it to disolve, and then plate.
Im curious if pennys will work tho, or if i need a pure source of zinc for what im doing? pennys have 2% copper or something in them, will that screw everything up as far as protection ect?
i believe you said the most reactive metal will always plate first, so do i even need a pure source of zinc? the guides im reading say i do, but don't mention why. If i use a penny will it just plate zinc then? or copper or both and why didn't you mention i could plate zinc earlier? any toxic fumes?
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21857278 - 06/25/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You have to melt the penny. The zinc inside the copper coating will melt, but the copper won't and it should fall out as a blob. Use forceps or pliers obviously.
Zinc with react with vinegar. Gotta neutralize the acid solution though, otherwise you will dissolve the plated zinc as soon as it is created.
Copper will not dissolve in acids without a source of oxygen.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21857311 - 06/25/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know how well zinc plates because it actually reacts with water, just very slowly - but just enough that zinc hydroxide hinders good adhesion of the plate to the metal surface. Of you saw in my video, the zinc being plated sloughs of as a powder or small crystals.
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: koods]
#21858795 - 06/26/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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watch the second video for sure start around the 1 minute mark
its what convinced me to go zinc, that and nothing else made much sense
think im gunna try to get a zinc thing for water heater or something, im not gunna melt pennys
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21859533 - 06/26/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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curious question ive read that zinc is used on boats to prevent rust. Could i put a sheet of zinc on the frame of my car, would that prevent rust on the entire thing? or just within a few feet of the zinc sheet?
in other words how far does the zinc work?
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Re: anyone know how to electroplate? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21895273 - 07/04/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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does zinc plating cause zinc oxide fumes?
ive been plating with zinc and its been working great, ive had a few things with spots that didn't get plated or only partly plated, but ive determined most of that to be connection issues. A bee flew into the electrolyte and its antenna's got plated i think, kinda hard to tell but part of them are colored different than the rest.
anyways just worried about fumes again.
also i read that you can use different metals at the same time, but that doesn't really help me any since the only other metal id want to use was tin but that won't strip into the vinagar.
I might try to use it as an anode anyways, maybe a very small amount will strip off, but mostly because my anodes keep falling apart because they are so thin, i basically get 22 days roughly out of them and need to make new anodes.
so yah, is the zinc making bad fumes, and if i switched to a tin anode would that create bad fumes (assuming i don't add salt this time). I would feed zinc into the electrolyte to feed it of course
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