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PrimalSoup
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava]
#21850625 - 06/24/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Guys I don't think I have the balls for this. The more I think about it, and the more I read about it, and study up on it, the more fearful I become.

As some of you might have read, this will be my first time. Is it really a good idea to alter your perceptions so much that you begin to see all manner of wacked out craziness? I really do want to do this, but man. Right now it seems almost a bit like death. Who the hell knows what's going to happen to you? Who the hell knows what kind of awful experience you're going to go through? Seeing shit that ain't there?? C'mon man! That don't sound good at all. Especially when it seems absolutely real. I got the thousand yard stare...
When I finally go to do this, I'm going to be fighting back panic. I already know that. But I have to. I agree with Mkenna, everyone should do this. I don't WANT to curl up on the floor in the fetal position! You know what it takes to make a grown man do that, from shit that he's seeing? Do ya?? Well yeah, I guess you do. Right now I'd probably avoid this experience like the plague. And I may have my shrooms for a long time before I finally work up the courage to do this.
I mean lets get down to brass tacks here. I'm going to be forever changed. I will never be the same as I once was. Mkenna says it changes your psyche, meaning it changes YOU. And I've heard people saying you come back different than when you left. I've only ever read that this is for the better, and never the worse, but still. That big of a change is something to be feared! Who the hell wouldn't be afraid of this? If do enough research, you'll find that this has driven mad men sane! WTF??
I need some kind of reassurance here. I'm calling on the community for help.
If you ain't ready then you ain't ready. But a little bit of fear and apprehension is prefectly normal. At this point you know basically nothing about the experience, and reading is no substitute. You may find that taking up meditation is very helpful, both in preparation for tripping and in ordinary mundane life. Other than that, relax and dive in. You won't regret it.
Oh yeah, be sure to wear yer googles:

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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21850628 - 06/24/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think he is ready. Go for it OP then come back and tell us how it went
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava] 2
#21850855 - 06/24/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Is it really a good idea to alter your perceptions so much that you begin to see all manner of wacked out craziness?
Yes.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#21852068 - 06/24/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I sort of remember but forget..
It's always this stupid game where I am sober, tjen I decide to trip, then time stops and I enter a realm that makes time stop in the sober world and I am put through a series of tests that I always fail. then I get this terror that tells me being sober can't escape it but to only reinforce my fear of death...and hell...
so then after a while the thoughts start to go into the back of my mind and then I start to think..gee..maybe it was all in my head..lemme trip again and see.. then no matter the dose I get tossed right back in.. only it's worse because I failed the test...again.. so I'm like fuck fuck I won't trip anymore I'm sorry get me out of here and then I'm told because I am here that's all there ever is..and that's all there ever was... the alpha and omega.. eternal.. but even if I declare to never trip again..well its already to late.. because I tripped once.. trip or trap?
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: Deathcore]
#21853642 - 06/25/15 03:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Deathcore said: I sort of remember but forget..
It's always this stupid game where I am sober, tjen I decide to trip, then time stops and I enter a realm that makes time stop in the sober world and I am put through a series of tests that I always fail. then I get this terror that tells me being sober can't escape it but to only reinforce my fear of death...and hell...
so then after a while the thoughts start to go into the back of my mind and then I start to think..gee..maybe it was all in my head..lemme trip again and see.. then no matter the dose I get tossed right back in.. only it's worse because I failed the test...again.. so I'm like fuck fuck I won't trip anymore I'm sorry get me out of here and then I'm told because I am here that's all there ever is..and that's all there ever was... the alpha and omega.. eternal.. but even if I declare to never trip again..well its already to late.. because I tripped once.. trip or trap?
You're such a tripper mate. +1
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: cho0n22]
#21853880 - 06/25/15 06:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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be cool man we're outlasting the dinosaurs man, be searching for light ever upward and stay true. we're outlasting the dinosaurs kids are smart just gotta think that kids going to need people like you that are just cool and be a success so that when you get a chance to teach you'll be cool and relevant. time will call us in our lives maybe look into esoteric knowledge instead things that you can keep on the surface as a operating system that articulatesits wa into your "stare" and essence of being cool, when someone tests you down the raod with what they think of the day just let it grease the gears, and be cool I really enjoyed reading OP. Knowledge overpowering, T.Mckennas, it was.
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You'll never be completely ready. Just start low man. You'll be ok. 2 grams or less for first time. Maybe learn some breathing techniques. I love to curl up with my mindfold, and not move my body for the entire peak
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: Heisencybin]
#21857513 - 06/25/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes I will be making it into a tea. Also, what do you mean "Don't forget to wear your goggles"?
What I'm about to say might sound kind of stupid, given the OP and everything I've said thus far. But, I've got my reasons. My mind seems to be changing every day about one detail or another, but I think I'm going to do 5g my first time. That's right, a Mkenna style dose. Why, you might ask? I've said from the beginning that I am not doing this for pleasure, entertainment, some kind of a good time, or any of that. I'm just not. That might happen at some point in my trip, but that isn't why I'm doing this.
Its a little hard to say, but I'm doing this because I know there are things wrong with me, and wrong with my life, and this will show them to me, and I will know what to do. I will know how to fix it. All my faults will be laid bare, and then I'll know. I'm doing this for a full on spiritual experience, I'm doing this because I need help, and it can help me. I don't feel like my psyche is getting better with time, I feel like its getting worse. This may just be the hard reset I'm looking for. That said I probably just need to man the f*ck up and do what I need to do. Mkenna said if people aren't getting these effects that he's seeing, they're simply not doing enough. I got my scale, and I think 5 grams is what's going on it.
I know this sounds like a total reversal of what I was saying before, but its not. I'm still afraid. But I know what I have to do.
And I don't plan to stop there. I also plan to do Ayahuasca, and Salvia, and maybe a few others, for the help that they offer.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava] 1
#21857730 - 06/25/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Yes I will be making it into a tea. Also, what do you mean "Don't forget to wear your goggles"?
What I'm about to say might sound kind of stupid, given the OP and everything I've said thus far. But, I've got my reasons. My mind seems to be changing every day about one detail or another, but I think I'm going to do 5g my first time. That's right, a Mkenna style dose. Why, you might ask? I've said from the beginning that I am not doing this for pleasure, entertainment, some kind of a good time, or any of that. I'm just not. That might happen at some point in my trip, but that isn't why I'm doing this.
Its a little hard to say, but I'm doing this because I know there are things wrong with me, and wrong with my life, and this will show them to me, and I will know what to do. I will know how to fix it. All my faults will be laid bare, and then I'll know. I'm doing this for a full on spiritual experience, I'm doing this because I need help, and it can help me. I don't feel like my psyche is getting better with time, I feel like its getting worse. This may just be the hard reset I'm looking for. That said I probably just need to man the f*ck up and do what I need to do. Mkenna said if people aren't getting these effects that he's seeing, they're simply not doing enough. I got my scale, and I think 5 grams is what's going on it.
I know this sounds like a total reversal of what I was saying before, but its not. I'm still afraid. But I know what I have to do.
And I don't plan to stop there. I also plan to do Ayahuasca, and Salvia, and maybe a few others, for the help that they offer.
Regardless of your intentions, jumping right into the deep end of something you have no experience or practical knowledge of is a bad idea, especially for something as intense and abstract as the psychedelic experience. A more gradual approach will definitely be safer for you and more respectful of the drug. Lower dose experiences can be even more productive that higher doses because they are easier to integrate. I recommend around 2-3 dried grams for your first time, I promise you it will not be trivial.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava]
#21858075 - 06/26/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bennylava said: Yes I will be making it into a tea. Also, what do you mean "Don't forget to wear your goggles"?
Ask the guy in the goggles I suppose. They knew a thing or two about hallucinogens. 
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Starless said: Regardless of your intentions, jumping right into the deep end of something you have no experience or practical knowledge of is a bad idea, especially for something as intense and abstract as the psychedelic experience. A more gradual approach will definitely be safer for you and more respectful of the drug. Lower dose experiences can be even more productive that higher doses because they are easier to integrate. I recommend around 2-3 dried grams for your first time, I promise you it will not be trivial.
McKeena already knew what was up with it all, you gotta learn to walk before you can fly.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava]
#21858104 - 06/26/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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in your heart and soul you already know what to do about the problems in your life. you dont need drugs to tell you what you already know.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: sprinkles]
#21858136 - 06/26/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP, At this point you have been talking about this for days. I think it's time to shit or get off the toilet. The general consensus of experienced members recommend taking roughly 2.5 grams in a comfortable setting and that will get you where you want to go. Stop wasting time thinking about it. There is two threads going about this and everything has been covered. Do it or don't, man.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava]
#21858916 - 06/26/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seeing shit that ain't there?? C'mon man! That don't sound good at all. Especially when it seems absolutely real.
Don't forget that "seeing" has more than one meaning in a shroom trip. People can be talking about open-eye visuals, closed-eye visuals or weird visionary stuff which is more like a "minds-eye" kind of thing.
The open-eye visuals are generally more like an overlay or various kinds of patterning......don't worry about losing visual contact with reality, it won't happen on shrooms unless you dose off the charts. The startling thing is that it makes you question whether normal vision is itself a type of hallucination - albeit one that's intended to match up with reality. In a way, when you see open-eye visuals you are witnessing subtle alterations to an existing process of hallucination.....

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As some of you might have read, this will be my first time. Is it really a good idea to alter your perceptions so much that you begin to see all manner of wacked out craziness?
You're focused on the perceptual changes, which is fair enough, but remember that one of the main effects is a change to your thought patterns. If you take a moderately high dose, it's your thought patterns that will undergo the most obvious changes as the trip takes hold.
That's the main issue if you plan to take a 5g dose - the feeling that the trip is taking hold of your mind in a way that can be extremely intense and potentially unpleasant. A high-dose trip can feel like you are facing an insanity that is coming out of the walls; it's less about the visuals and more about losing touch with the normal way of thinking about and relating to reality......in fact reality can soon become a kind of faint nostalgia for a forgotten, sensible world that used to exist....before this.

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The more I think about it, and the more I read about it, and study up on it, the more fearful I become.
Nothing wrong with being anxious about tripping.....but you are posting with a sense of humour and a sense of adventure, which are both helpful when you are trying to navigate a trip. The fears and anxieties of a trip are all in your mind, ultimately. Even if your trip descends into chaos within your mind, at some point you will piece together the fact that you are tripping and that there is nothing to worry about. If you can find something in your trip to laugh at, it helps stop you being so serious and lifts that feeling of doom.....
Of course you can avoid 90% of this by just dosing a little bit less, and keeping within the dose range that is usually suggested to first-time users. Within a trip, you can sometimes feel a bit unsettled and weirded-out by the onset, but eventually it settles down and you find a kind of equilibrium in your mind where you think "I can handle this, it's going to be fun". With higher doses it takes longer to reach this point, the intensity increases in waves, and if you dose too high you end up with a trip in which there is no refuge, a kind of vertigo where there seems to be no way of existing within the trip, the intensity becomes crushing and the panic sets in....
In retrospect this can be quite exciting, and the worst point of the trip may be shortly before it shifts gear into something euphoric, spiritual, astounding.....but a high-dose experience can be very harsh at certain points, especially if you have limited experience on how to deal with this kind of trip.

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I need some kind of reassurance here. I'm calling on the community for help.
The best reassurance is sometimes the simple fact that you didn't take too much. The feeling of "Why did I eat so much? What was I thinking?" is not pleasant when the trip is kicking in with a vengeance. The posts recommending 2.5g or similar sound pretty sensible to me.
Another thing to remember is "It's supposed to be like that!". Trips can become very weird and sometimes very intense.....it's normal. Don't fight it. Try and "go with the flow" and treat the trip as a journey through your mind. It's OK to feel anxious......everything is OK.......it's supposed to be like that. Just let it flow.
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When I finally go to do this, I'm going to be fighting back panic.
Only if you take too much. On a sensible dose you might feel 'mildly unsettled' at certain points, but the excitement of tripping for the first time will probably be the dominant emotion. The hardest part may be trying to wipe the grin off your face....

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I'm going to be forever changed. I will never be the same as I once was. Mkenna says it changes your psyche, meaning it changes YOU.
For me it was more of a shift in my way of thinking about philosophical / metaphysical topics, rather than a big change to my personality. But a trip does give a new and slightly detached perspective from which to think about your life; for some people this can be very significant and cause them to approach life a bit differently.
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I'm doing this for a full on spiritual experience
Just be aware that this kind of full-on trip can get very weird, very delusional, like this one - Pans Cyans: Outrageous Visuals, God & the Zoo Inside My Brain

I know this is already a long post, but if you are interested this is a general description of psilocybin effects that I put together after my first few trips:
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*Physical effects & onset:
“A sensation in my temples of the drug starting to infiltrate my brain. A subtle feeling that seems to affect my vision ever so slightly.”
Feelings of heat or cold. Greater awareness of muscle tension and other bodily sensations. Body feels heavy. Slight feeling of mild nausea which passes away. General unease and a sense that something strange is occurring. A brief tingling feeling in your head. Sense of mental drift; that thoughts are becoming less controlled. Vision starts to subtly alter.
*Closed-eye visuals –CEV (Strength will vary depending on dose, but a psychedelic light-show should be visible even on a mild dose).
“When I close my eyes, I am looking down onto a tiled floor and seeing toys in an imagined space and tiles everywhere and the space is fragmenting and the tiles are spiralling…” “my CEV are: whales made out of purple and the colour orange” “a red-chequered tablecloth that is refracted in a thousand mirrors” “I see biscuit tins and silvery wings” “everything is red and there are rivers of words and packets and advertising running around the surfaces of imaginary objects at unusual angles”
Repeating patterns, objects, colours, scenes, people, animals, cities are viewed with eyes closed, as though projected onto the back of the eyelids. Imagery flows and continually transforms into new visions. There is often an inky black or bright white background (may depend on ambient light), colours are fluorescent, shapes are often stylised or cartoon-like. ‘classic’ psychedelic imagery of spirals, kaleidoscopic movement, transformations. Although the imagery is clearly internally generated, there is no awareness of “thinking them up” or imagining them – they are viewed purely as a spectator. The creation of a new perceptual field not related to the surrounding 3D space - a seemingly vast internal world appears to be opening up inside your head.
*Open-eye visuals – OEV (These are not always present, - even on higher doses they are sometimes not particularly vivid - and depend strongly on the surroundings.)
“The bedclothes pulsate, but now they are still again. This is a tricksy drug, stealthily invading your peripheral vision”
Note - these kind of hallucinations generally involve perceptual alterations to the surfaces of real objects. Don’t expect to see objects that aren’t there – you won’t see any marching penguins in your hotel room (unless you brought them with you when you checked-in). On a high enough dose you might become convinced that there are invisible penguins surrounding you (frankly, your obsession with penguins is beginning to disturb me) but that’s a delusion, not a hallucination. You may see creative re-interpretations of actual objects (e.g there is a real coat on the floor, but when you are not viewing it directly you see it as a cat) but my basic point is that although your visual sense becomes distorted it’s still fairly reliable.
Specks of light appear in peripheral vision. Colours attract more attention. Movement, objects or scenes perceived in peripheral vision that vanish when viewed directly. Surfaces may appear to ripple or breath slightly. Patterned or speckled surfaces begin to spiral when examined closely. Some surfaces such as carpet may give an appearance of word-soup (indistinct letters and numbers within a surface), holes in ceiling tiles may appear to contain gemstones. Objects may appear to glow slightly, especially in artificial light. Shadows seem to move.
*Derealization:
“the hallucinations encompass everything. When everything is everything there is no way to shut it off.” “What is real? What I see? My own thoughts? I can tell you that my own thoughts are unusual and my own ideas do not seem to be real.”
The world feels increasingly unreal, as though normal life is itself a kind of hallucination. Sense of drifting away from reality. Physical world perceived to be a mental construct. An odd sensation of being awake and asleep at the same time. Time itself may seem to stretch (time dilation) so that 2 minutes feels more like 20.
*Depersonalization:
“my point of view keeps shifting. I am everywhere and nowhere.” “I am becoming undone”
Thoughts and imagery dominate conscious experience - body feels a secondary, disconnected entity, e.g feelings of hunger may be perceived indirectly as a strange emotional emptiness. Reduced sense of individual identity - less awareness of being “me”. Thoughts are just disconnected thoughts, not “my” thoughts. Internal monologue (i.e consciously thinking things to yourself) may stop. On a strong dose you may feel as though your personality is becoming unravelled, and the drug is taking over. This effect is usually temporary as the trip builds to a peak – once you are there you may feel a bit more yourself again, as you adjust to the change in consciousness caused by the drug.
*Euphoria & Racing Thoughts, Mania:
“there is traffic coming into me on roads in my head” “to have your own ideas attack you like a guerrilla force and try to creep up on you like an invading army” “my thoughts construct their own reality like a film set” “hallucinations that arrive unwanted and unplug the wires in your head”
Powerful excitement and awe at vividness of CEV. Rapid changes in emotional state – happy, sad, giggling. Thought loops – you get caught thinking about something which absorbs your attention more and more strongly for what seems a long time, but isn’t. Thoughts and CEV are produced involuntarily at an extremely fast rate and are difficult to process into a coherent framework. A gradual adjustment to the pace of the internal imagery and thought-patterns as the trip takes hold. You feel wired into some kind of fantastical machine and begin to appreciate the awesome power of your brain. You are manic, grinning insanely, gripped by the intensity of the drug experience. You are enjoying yourself.
*Grandiose ideas & delusions: (on higher doses).
“My hallucinations do not trouble themselves by entering into my 3D view of the world or what I see when I close my eyes. They compete with the very reality this notebook is within.” “could your delusions be the awakening of a demon you had forgotten existed?” “I am your God” “the rulers of the universe will drop from the trees”
The torrent of ideas and imagery combines with a general state of mania to drive schemes of thought which are increasingly bizarre. A conviction that you have discovered some philosophical or spiritual truth of immense significance. An ‘end of the world’ feeling that something momentous is about to happen. Plans to change your life or a feeling that interpersonal relations will dramatically improve based upon your experience during the trip. Confidence that the world will become a new and better place. A sense of oneness and peace with your life, other people and the universe in general. Music lyrics or programmes on TV seem to have a direct significance to your personal situation. A Feeling that your thoughts are being broadcast into other worlds. A sense of connection or communication with God / aliens / demons / nameless entities from other dimensions. Frankly, anything is possible.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: sprinkles]
#21862955 - 06/27/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sprinkles said: in your heart and soul you already know what to do about the problems in your life. you dont need drugs to tell you what you already know.
Bad post on so many levels. If this were true, half the site (probably over half) needs to just go ahead and leave, no reason to come back. These various drugs are here to help, only a fool would turn down much needed help. Plus if what you were saying were true, then pyschologists, therapists, and a whole host of other professions wouldn't exist. Some people do indeed need drugs, even if its only temporary in their lives. I can't believe you'd have hung around here this long and wouldn't know that by now.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: sprinkles]
#21862971 - 06/27/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sprinkles said: in your heart and soul you already know what to do about the problems in your life. you dont need drugs to tell you what you already know.
Bad post on so many levels. If this were true, half the site (probably over half) needs to just go ahead and leave, no reason to come back. These various drugs are here to help, only a fool would turn down much needed help. Plus if what you were saying were true, then pyschologists, therapists, and a whole host of other professions wouldn't exist. Some people do indeed need drugs, even if its only temporary in their lives. I can't believe you'd have hung around here this long and wouldn't know that by now.
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Ncogneato said: OP, At this point you have been talking about this for days. I think it's time to shit or get off the toilet. The general consensus of experienced members recommend taking roughly 2.5 grams in a comfortable setting and that will get you where you want to go. Stop wasting time thinking about it. There is two threads going about this and everything has been covered. Do it or don't, man.
Actually no, I haven't. One thread is about fear, the other thread doesn't deal with this at all. It merely deals with how much a novice should take. Two completely separate issues. Fear could pop up at a 5g dose, or a 1.5g dose. Just because one thread ran into the other threads domain a bit, doesn't make them about the same thing. And I am going to do it, I feel like I have to. Its drawing me in, at this point. Got to grow 'em first, though lol. Got my pressure cooker, humidity gauge, scale for weighing out doses. Just a few more items to order and I'll be on my way.
And thanks everyone, for all the help. All of you guys have really helped me with this, and some of these posts have given me the courage I need to proceed. I love you all!!
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava] 1
#21865485 - 06/27/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who cares what Terence McKenna says.
You don't have to eat five grams. Eat 1.5-2.5 You'll be fine. It will be the time of your life It doesn't have to be so serious. Tripping is fun. It can get intense and weird, but you'll live and you will laugh a lot along the way. Have a couple good friends with you. Treat it like a fun adventure, because that's what it is.
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava]
#21866833 - 06/28/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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sprinkles said: in your heart and soul you already know what to do about the problems in your life. you dont need drugs to tell you what you already know.
These various drugs are here to help, only a fool would turn down much needed help.
There is only you that can save you from yourself
Don't think much about how things will be or become, get your set,setting and dosage right and you'll be golden
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bennylava
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: Starless]
#21873316 - 06/29/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Starless said: I promise you it will not be trivial.
That sounds reassuring. That was my big concern, I didn't want it to be trivial. Thank you for the reply
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PrimalSoup
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava]
#21873565 - 06/29/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How you gonna collect on that "promise" though? People blow off low dosages sometimes, there are no guarantees.
Just approach it with open heart and mind and see what happens - lose your expectations, as those are almost never fulfilled. You have no idea what it's really like yet, but you will.
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Ezuma
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Re: I got the thousand yard stare... [Re: bennylava]
#21873952 - 06/29/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even if you try 2.5 g and think it was underwhelming or lacking (i doubt you will feel this way) you can always try more a second time. The feeling when you realize you've taken more than you thought is usually not pleasant
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