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InvisibleMagicalOrangutan
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Who here agrees
    #21844776 - 06/23/15 05:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That if mescaline didn't cause any significant nausea, as in if you could take a mescaline capsule and not worry, that mescaline would be the most popular psychedelic?

..assuming the supply was the same as mushrooms, acid etc which is the other reason it's not as popular


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21844818 - 06/23/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Probably not considering that it's a long ass fucking trip and most people don't have 24 hours to dedicate to it. Plus the onset takes too long


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #21845004 - 06/23/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shroom trips don't last long enough, just right would be between acid and mescaline length, so 10 hours, acid is 8 and mescaline 12.


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Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
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It's all in the mind


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21845028 - 06/23/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Mescaline is extremely uncommon in my area. Ive never come across it yet.
(obviously I could order legal cacti, but yuck)

The only form of Mescaline that I would use, or that I could imagine people like myself would use would be extracts that one could dip sheets into and take it like Acid.
Im not eating fucking cactus and purging.
I dont like the idea of naseua IMO, it isnt worth it. Its like something only that id consider if thats the last psychedelic I had access to in an end of the world type situation.
But some people dont mind nasuea or purging.


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21845157 - 06/23/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree.


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21845235 - 06/23/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalOrangutan said:
That if mescaline didn't cause any significant nausea, as in if you could take a mescaline capsule and not worry, that mescaline would be the most popular psychedelic?

..assuming the supply was the same as mushrooms, acid etc which is the other reason it's not as popular




Nausea is the biggest negative to mescaline, imo.  If that whole part was eliminated I think I would have enjoyed the experience much more.


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #21845332 - 06/23/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ehh not really as another poster said the long duration and slow onset would stop alot of people plus its too gentle for many psychonauts to call it the best. i dont mind the nausea i dont think its that bad i get a little nauseas 3 hours in puke and im good to go. i love mescaline but now i basically only use bridgesii tar or aya. if i want a enjoyable do something fun all day experience ill eat some mescaline but i use aya when i feel the need for an intense experience


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #21845408 - 06/23/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why is the popularity relevant? Alcohol is by far the most popular drug with psychedelic side effects and causes extreme nausea.


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21845459 - 06/23/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalOrangutan said:
Shroom trips don't last long enough, just right would be between acid and mescaline length, so 10 hours, acid is 8 and mescaline 12.





Yep.

Mushrooms almost don't seem worth it anymore for me because I eat them and it takes 45 minutes to start feeling it. Then another 1 and 1/2 hours to shake off the hard comeup filled with tension and anxiety, then I peak but it only lasts an hour, then the comedown is another hour.


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21845880 - 06/23/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

MagicalOrangutan said:
Shroom trips don't last long enough, just right would be between acid and mescaline length, so 10 hours, acid is 8 and mescaline 12.





Yep.

Mushrooms almost don't seem worth it anymore for me because I eat them and it takes 45 minutes to start feeling it. Then another 1 and 1/2 hours to shake off the hard comeup filled with tension and anxiety, then I peak but it only lasts an hour, then the comedown is another hour.




Eat some harmalas first, it makes it last somewhere between shrooms and acid.

People say acid is too long and shrooms too short. Psilohuasca is the answer.


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Supachopped719]
    #21845957 - 06/23/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Great idea.

Take the harmala's how long before the mushrooms?

Or should I eat the mushrooms first then take the MAOI?


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21846324 - 06/23/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

maoi about 45 mins before shrooms


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21846445 - 06/23/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Uh i took mescaline/alkaloid blend in 40+ caps had zero nausea but yeah its a long trip most people like mushrooms because they can trip after work and still sleep the same night but i prefer L and M.


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: lovesquare]
    #21846468 - 06/23/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

same^

I reduce to tar, and scrape and cap it, and I get zero nausea at all.  I have to eat about 20ish gel caps which is a pain, but well worth it.  it can store longer than tea, easier to transport (debatable), and WAY easier to consume.

honestly, I know it's selfish, but I'm pretty glad it's not super popular.  all it's gonna take is one dumbass to ruin it and they'll ban all the active cacti along with lophs.

sweet jesus it's a great molecule though. :heart:


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21846492 - 06/23/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm definitely gonna do a dlimonene 69ron style extraction in the upcoming few weeks, I can't wait. This will be three years after my first cacti trip in summer 2012 haha


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21846538 - 06/23/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if you have the time, I like the tea coctail.  much more full spectrum :thumbup:

it just takes forever to boil that shit and reduce.


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21846555 - 06/23/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I can do a comparison. I'd likely be doing a full spectrum extraction anyways. I could even make a tea with citric or acetic acid (or both acids) and then reduce and let sit out in the sun? Or dry in the oven? Perhaps that'd be a time consuming but extremely simple full cacti alkaloid extraction?


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21846562 - 06/23/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just go straight water (I've always used an aluminum pot, so no acids) reduce it in a pot until it gets close to the bottom and gets really thick, pour into a pyrex pan and then throw it in the oven with just the pilot light on for a few days til it dries out , then toss it in the freezer for a few hours to harden it before the scrape.


works like a charm


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21846571 - 06/23/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'd probably rather do an acid base full alkaloid extraction, or perhaps a pure mescaline extraction in case I wanted to experiment with plugging it, haha


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Who here agrees [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21846572 - 06/23/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

turkey baster brah :wink:


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