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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21851628 - 06/24/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The base building looks cool, yeah, but I can't help feeling that they're trying to jump on the minecraft bandwagon. Fallout was never that kind of game. It's a cool idea, but I worry that too much of the game will focus on it, and the rest of the game will suffer as a result. The fallout series from the beginning has been classic CRPG gameplay. This seems like it's going away from that towards more harvest moon style gameplay.

I'm still going to buy it and play the shit out of it, and I'm sure it'll be as good as everything Bethesda makes, but I worry about moving the series away from its roots.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: nooneman]
    #21852008 - 06/24/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I really, really .. sincerely doubt Bethesda will lose focus on the core of Fallout.. they know how to do it right.
The base building aspect (from all the videos I've seen)... seems to be just a side-part of the game
and they have mentioned numerous times it is in no way mandatory... it's a completely optional part of the game.. which I think is fucking awesome.
I doubt it will take away from the Fallout experience. Hell, I think it will just add to it.
I think there's just no way Bethesda is jumping on the "minecraft bandwagon".. they are original leaders in the industry and Fallout is their bread and butter.
Base building has been a very frequently requested feature of the fallout series.. and it looks like they've been listening. Also the way it is implemented looks fucking amazing.
It's going to be fucking amazing. I have almost zero doubt it's going to be the best Fallout yet.

People talk about Fallout NV falling away from the roots some... but you have to keep in mind, Bethesda didn't even develop NV.. that was Obsidian.
Last Fallout game Bethesda made was Fallout 3, and that is arguably everyone's favorite Fallout game. They aren't gonna fuck it up.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: nooneman]
    #21852030 - 06/24/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

meh, that's a legitimate concern i guess but i'm not so concerned because  Wasteland 2 already basically rebooted the whole style of the old Fallout, and if it wanted to go back to it's roots they could just either reboot or make a new IP that incorporates the old school perspective, movement and combat, but maybe make a different environment other than nuclear fallout... like maybe some other use for the GECK other than saving Earth, like maybe colonizing a planet, and your like "space enemy" or enemies are trying to colonize it too, so you need to build up the planet and destroy other "GECKS" maybe or something. come to think of it, building IS kinda a core element to Fallout, at least number two anyway. really, i just hope that they make the story and dialogue better than 3. then i'll be REALLY more than just impressed.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21852035 - 06/24/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I HAS FAITH!!!!


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21852041 - 06/24/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Side note... I'm sure you guys heard about that guy that was saving up bottlecaps since Fallout 3.. and sent in like 2,400 bottlecaps with a cool letter as payment for Fallout 4.

He got a reply from the devs - http://imgur.com/gallery/KlqPB


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: Shroomism]
    #21852101 - 06/24/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
I really, really .. sincerely doubt Bethesda will lose focus on the core of Fallout.. they know how to do it right.
The base building aspect (from all the videos I've seen)... seems to be just a side-part of the game
and they have mentioned numerous times it is in no way mandatory... it's a completely optional part of the game.. which I think is fucking awesome.
I doubt it will take away from the Fallout experience. Hell, I think it will just add to it.
I think there's just no way Bethesda is jumping on the "minecraft bandwagon".. they are original leaders in the industry and Fallout is their bread and butter.
Base building has been a very frequently requested feature of the fallout series.. and it looks like they've been listening. Also the way it is implemented looks fucking amazing.
It's going to be fucking amazing. I have almost zero doubt it's going to be the best Fallout yet.

People talk about Fallout NV falling away from the roots some... but you have to keep in mind, Bethesda didn't even develop NV.. that was Obsidian.
Last Fallout game Bethesda made was Fallout 3, and that is arguably everyone's favorite Fallout game. They aren't gonna fuck it up.





Indeed. That mod for Fallout 3 that let you build your own town was insanely popular, despite how much of an utter PAIN IN THE ASS it was to actually make a decent sized town full of people. Fallout 4's thankfully looks far, far easier to manage but even more customizable.

Heres hoping that Fallout 4's DLC wind up being as good as New Vegas' though. Even though I agree that Fallout 3 was overall superior to New Vegas, the DLC for FO3 were all garbage except for Point Lookout. New Vegas' DLC were all amazing, except for Dead Money (which was meh).


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: Shroomism]
    #21852134 - 06/24/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I HAS FAITH!!!!



i know it'll be good. Bethesda pisses me off sometimes, but they've had to make sacrifices to make happen their particular aesthetics in their games. i think with more development, more and better tech, and more feedback, they'll iron out all those pesky...bugs, glitches, and overall ragtag gameplay. i love their world's, but i've never been a fan of the ACTION. Fallout 4 might get it a lot more intimate. the VATS already looks alot less slowed-down, and more active and more realistic looking, you know, how everything is moving, instead of looking still. then you got just better physics overall, and so then hopefully better ballistics on the weapons and bodies, and then with the improved animations, it'll all look very immersive, and they seem to be doing that this time around.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21852172 - 06/24/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dont exactly know my pc specs. Its pretty damn good i built it with help from my friend who is into programming. I run two monitors running windows 7. Can run some pretty demanding games like the new battlefield.

I feel pc has way more benefits than console. But all my buddys are on console and i dont want to have to keep upgrading my pc. i know the X one is gonna be good for atleast the next 5 years.

So i justified the buy in my mind. Was gonna wait for black friday sale but i just found out gamestop is having a sale right now where you can get 150$ credit towards a X one or Ps4 when you trade in your old 360.

Deal;s only on till Saturday so im going tomorrow. Gonna have to play Elder scrolls online till Fallout comes out.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21853526 - 06/25/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fallout 2 owns all. God, what a magnificent game that is.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: Satyr604]
    #21853582 - 06/25/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

getting to San Fran and busting through the brotherhood of steel's oil rig base (if i remember correctly) and busing big ass robot guys ass (whatever his name is), at the end, was awesome.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: Satyr604]
    #21853805 - 06/25/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

For people who have a nice gaming PC already but want to make it more like a console without having to actualy move it, pick up an nvidia shield TV.

I bought one. its fucking awesome.  I now play all my PC games (or can, when I want) sitting on my couch with a nice controller streamed off my PC.  The PC does the work and provides the horsepower, the nvidia video card in my PC + the nvidia shield device (its an andoid device with a tegra chip in it) does the streaming across my wireless or ethernet.  Plays rock smooth @ 1080.  It does higher but my TV is old.

Anywho, they also are beta testing their GRID gaming subscription service.  Its cloud streaming of big games.  Currently because they are testing its FREE but eventually will be a pay service similiar to gamefly or whatever, but no disc delivery just streaming. My kids and girl are enjoying playing all the LEGO games right now.  This part does NOT require a PC, just the shield and intarwebnets.  They also have another game service to buy games and download them to the shield, or buy then stream to play if you get the shield with only the tiny flash drive and dont have the space.

It also does all the other shit every android TV device does.  Audio/video steaming. Apps, blah blah blah blah.

I bring it up because some posts back peeps were talking about hooking up the PC to a TV, etc etc.

Oh, and since it has an nvidia tegra chipset you can actually play REAL games on it, not just shitball craptastic horribad android crap games.  If you buy the shield TV pro right now you get a voucher for borderlands the pre-sequel for it.  Just to give you an idea.  Witcher 2 is on their streaming service, witcher 3 is due soon.  Obviously for high end games that the shield is running all the processesing for the video is downgraded and effects are way less to make it playable.  It does NOT do that when you stream from your own PC though since in that case your PC does all the work and provides the horsepower.  Only internet streamed games get various levels of quality change depending on game.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: mndfreeze]
    #21854227 - 06/25/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hold up, are your kids streaming a game without computing power? Or is it the computer inside the shield TV?


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: Jufin]
    #21857402 - 06/25/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yup, steaming the game from nvidia cloud, my PC is *NOT* being used for the LEGO games.
In the case of the LEGO games, the shield device is doing all the work.

There is 3 different gaming options on a shield device.

Gamestream:  All the games on my PC are playable and my PC and its video card do all the work and "basically" stream the video/sound/controls over my wifi/ethernet to my shield TV device in the living room.  This is how I play witcher 3 on my TV like a console.

GRID Service:  This is nvidias cloud gaming service.  Games here are independant of you having a PC and effectly its netflix for video games.  You pick a game, it downloads some portion of it into memory and cache and runs the game using its own horsepower with its tegra 1 CPU/GPU inside the sheild.  This is free currently because its beta but eventually will be a subscription service.  Some games def dont look very nice and some look flawless, its really game dependent at this point and they are optimizing a shit ton of games.  The tegra chipset inside the shield is kind of like having a PC that has a low end nvidia card in it.  Still WAAAAAY better then anything some garbage stock built on video card could do, but in order to keep a nice framerate a lot of fancy video features are disabled in games.  So a graphics heavy game like Witcher 2 does not look nearly as nice as it did on PC.  Ive only played a few games so far using grid but they apparently have a massive team of people working to do whatever needs to be done to get games to work smooth and flawlessly since they want to be like netflix for games, and therefore need a big ass library of games.

Finally, purchasing a game on GRID
This is a flat fee just to buiy a digital copy of the game and install it on your nvidia shield.  The list is a bit bigger then what comes up on the GRID streaming service.  The shield TV has 2 options for space to install a game too.  The normal shield TV has 16GB of space and can take flash sticks or flash cards for more space.  Or the shield TV pro whiich is what I got, has a 500GB drive that is a mixed media.  Where its a normal platter drive with some SSD space built in and uses some caching stuff to make it go faster.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: mndfreeze]
    #21864350 - 06/27/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm fucking stoked! I loved Fallout 3 and bought New Vegas but I soon sold my PS3 after so I never got into it. I guess I need to hurry up and get through Dying Light although I have until November


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: ostx]
    #21866655 - 06/27/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I saw the title and it reminded me I had greens waiting on me, thank you <3


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: Shroomism]
    #21881202 - 07/01/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I HAS FAITH!!!!



All you need is a little bit of faith!


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: PNW_Vibes]
    #21885201 - 07/01/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Every other week or so I re-open the email receipt I got for prepurchasing it. lulz.


November needs to hurry up.  Just this game being announced was enough to kill my desire to play lots of other games I have not touched yet. :frown:


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: mndfreeze]
    #21905266 - 07/06/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hopefully the mods are awesome. I had so many drug mods on fallout 3 & new vegas lol, along with like 100 other various gameplay, housing, weapon, slave (ik im. A horrible person) sex, etc mods. and all kinds of other shit i cant even remember.

Also you guys remeber the pit? I made my own custom race from those fucked up disease ridden looking npcs in the GECK. Ahh good times

As long as the modding communitiy is as awesome as it was with other bethesda games, im excited.

Also cant wait to make some of my own mods lol.


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #21912258 - 07/07/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

cant wait for this game:thumbup:


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Re: Fallout 4 20 Minute Gameplay Video [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #21915915 - 07/08/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The question now is PC or Console?


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