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insanemike

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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: eatyualive] 1
#21858350 - 06/26/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay. Anymore discussion of my monotub improvement project will be discussed here. Thank you all for the discussion so far and hope you all can help me along the rest of the way.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=21858216&page=0&vc=1#21858216
Edited by insanemike (06/26/15 02:02 AM)
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bennylava
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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
#22176779 - 09/02/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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His wife kicked him off the internet so he reserved them to post some shit later.
Thanks for the PM mike! Great thread and well laid out.
A couple noob questions.
1. Why is it bad if the rice bursts? Seems a little odd to me, that it would be bad, since people use BRF which is like the rice disintegrated.
2. Have you ever used just straight brow rice? Maybe with say a plain vermiculite casing. No chia seed, and no gypsum or anything else. If so, what were your results?
3. Why would one use brown rice grains instead of BRF? Is it more yield, or more flushes? Or both?
4. Did you finish the brown rice inoculation tek you mentioned at the bottom of the OP?
Edited by bennylava (09/02/15 02:13 AM)
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insanemike

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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: bennylava]
#22176933 - 09/02/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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bennylava said:
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insanemike said:
His wife kicked him off the internet so he reserved them to post some shit later.
Thanks for the PM mike! Great thread and well laid out.
A couple noob questions.
1. Why is it bad if the rice bursts? Seems a little odd to me, that it would be bad, since people use BRF which is like the rice disintegrated.
This tek is for making grain spawn. Brf cakes are something completey different. Burst grains leak starch which make all the kernels stick together. When making grain spawn, it is imperative that the grain is easily shaken.
2. Have you ever used just straight brow rice? Maybe with say a plain vermiculite casing. No chia seed, and no gypsum or anything else. If so, what were your results?
Sure, I use straight brown rice all the time. I just like to mix it up a bit. Every grain has a unique ability that can be utilized in this hobby. I have figured out a few but there are many different types of grain out there. I want to experiment with them all at some point.
3. Why would one use brown rice grains instead of BRF? Is it more yield, or more flushes? Or both?
We use grain spawn for bulk substrate (hpoo, verm, coir or straw). The grain provides the nutrition and the bulk substrate provides the water. Mushrooms are 90-93% water, that is why we use bulk substrates to grow off of and grain spawn is easy to make, even in bulk.
4. Did you finish the brown rice inoculation tek you mentioned at the bottom of the OP?
I completely forgot about that. I need to revise this tek anyway, I have improved upon some things since writing it. I will be making some rice spawn this weekend so I will write it up and attach it along with a revised version of this tek.
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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
#22177281 - 09/02/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah, so if I'm not going to be making more, then I don't have to worry about the rice bursting. I think I'll keep it from bursting just to get good at that, though.
I'll be using violet's ziplock container tek. Are you one of those who would recommend a verm casing for brown rice grains? Or are you on the side that says it really doesn't matter either way?
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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: bennylava]
#22177310 - 09/02/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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doesn't matter what you case it with. there are many different recipes for casing layers. plain verm works fine. but if you want to harvest anything, it will need to be cased. uncased grains will do you a whole lot of nothing.
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insanemike

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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: Munchauzen]
#22177400 - 09/02/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would not use this prep tek for violet tek because I don't hydrate my grains enough to fruit off of them. I use rice for my master grain jars. When I revise this tek, I will make it clear what this tek is for so that new growers don't get confused.
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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: Munchauzen]
#22181706 - 09/03/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll just stick with BRF then. Curious though, how much more hydration would they need to yield fruit?
And since you said this tek is for creating grain spawn, couldn't I just hydrate until they burst? I mean for the violet tek, it doesn't really matter if the grains stick together. Since they never need to easily separate.
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insanemike

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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: bennylava]
#22181759 - 09/03/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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bennylava said: I'll just stick with BRF then. Curious though, how much more hydration would they need to yield fruit?
And since you said this tek is for creating grain spawn, couldn't I just hydrate until they burst? I mean for the violet tek, it doesn't really matter if the grains stick together. Since they never need to easily separate.
I don't care what tek it is. Your grain should never clump together. Without air pockets, the jars are likely to go anaerobic. Cube mycelium can't survive in an anaerobic environment. What will most likely occur if the rice is in one solid form, is slow growth and/ or the complete stalling of growth. The longer it takes for your jars to colonize, the greater the chance of contamination.
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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
#22182747 - 09/03/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Every time I think I have it figured out, some new factor rears its ugly head. lol
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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: bennylava]
#22182795 - 09/03/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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why not just follow this tek to finish, or v's tek? why mix things up and bring confusion on yourself? I just dont see your problem and think it must have a real simple solution..
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insanemike

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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
#22341061 - 10/06/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update in the OP
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