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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
    #21843920 - 06/22/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well written tek Mike!

I will will def. have to give it a shot, the only tek I have ever used that worked for rice is found in a tek called the 9er tek, works great


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: Sksoul]
    #21843965 - 06/22/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok. Just went through our texts mike. Goddamn there was a lot of shit.
Anyways, I'm tired and on my phone. Here's a scattered rundown.
Good luck deciphering it.


2 teaspoons of chia seed for every 3 cups of water.
Chia is a lot more nutritious then simple sugar additives. Chia at 10% of any cereal grain by weight rivals them in amino acids. Only seed comparable is flaxseed which has the same type of mucous membrane. All cereal grains are high in omega 6 and low in omega 3. While chia and flaxseed are quite the opposite.
Congrats on getting the ban lifted on 11/30/14. You are lucky it was a mod who likes you that banned you. Rose would not change her stance no matter how we tried to convince her. Cron ended up finding the thread we were pleading in and gave us the good news.
Add 2 teaspoons of Chia seed per 3 cups of water. Mix thoroughly and give it 5-10 minutes to do its thing. Spoon some out and let it drip back into the jar, you will know when it's ready.
You should drop a 1/3 of that plate i sent you in an lc.
Btw, chia seeds worked. Clean grain. But took forever!  But super super clean. I only pc'd for 20 min though. I'm gonna try again for 45 min. Maybe it'll help break it down and make it faster. So when i made the chia lc, i made 3 of them but i only pc'd for 20 min. I know you said 45, but i had other lc's in the pc that called for 20 min.
Anyways, 2 triched out. The one surviving one i knocked up two jars with I only knocked up 2 jars because i was reluctant and didn't want to waste grain. My lc gives me fully colonized jars in 5 to 10 days. Let me tell you what, the chia lc took those two jars close to 5 weeks to colonize!! And they had a ever so slight look of bacteria  and i figured the should since they've been hanging around so long. But they stayed in that ever so slight state throughout colonization. The other day i built tubs. I use 4 jars of spawn per tub and get colonization in 4 days.
I built a tub using the 2 chia lc and the regular amount of hpoo for a normal tub.
So my ratio for a normal tub is 5.25:8. With your chia tub is was 2.65:8 Holy fucking shit!!!  It colonized in 3 days!!!'
Good shit mang. I'm going to make some more on Sunday and pc for 45 min and see what happens. But you sir, had a brilliant idea. Dude. I fucking did a 1:4 ratio without a casing layer
I know it doesn't look like much, but with that ratio and no casing layer and the speed of fruiting. It's insane. Bigger fruits too.
Check this guys. The ape tub i built using spawn that was inoculated with chia lc is on its 4th flush and EVERY SINGLE flysh has had 2 ounces. That shit is magic guys.


Through all my experiments, i believe chia is best suited for lc's


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: azur]
    #21843993 - 06/22/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

wow, cool stuff all. I'm gonna go get some flax seed, brb lol


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: Sksoul]
    #21844275 - 06/23/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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good job mike I was waiting for your write up.

I do wbr on the stove but the same as you, in increments. I also supplement, I don't have access to hemp or chia so for me its different types/colors of rice with other grains and seeds I can find at the grocery store (in Asia, mind you).

The reason we only let the wbr grains get to 2/3 hydrated to where the kernels are still white in the middle is wbr is still shakeable at this point. Once you get fully hydrated, rice bursts like a mother fucker and is only good with kimchi.




Yeah. I think it's best to hydrate them 2/3 of the way and then pc them with a little moisture still on the outside of the kernels. When prepared this way, the outer part of the kernels look like they dry out a little during the pc run.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
    #21844585 - 06/23/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: Sksoul]
    #21844824 - 06/23/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

adding flax seed to bulk substrates is beneficial through multiple flushes.
make sure to pasteurize the seed. it will grow sprouts if you do not.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: eatyualive]
    #21844885 - 06/23/15 06:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:takingnotes:

Nice detailed write up.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: Grey]
    #21844910 - 06/23/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks, grey. I put a lot of thought into it.

Azur, thanks for dropping a few lines. I really appreciate it, especially the notes about the chia seed LC. That was awesome of you.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
    #21847904 - 06/23/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry i didn't take better notes. But anyone that runs multiple flushes, chia lc is for you!


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: azur]
    #21848862 - 06/24/15 03:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Chia, I eat the stuff often. Never thought of adding it in sub.

Too expensive for me to use in my sub, cool thread regardless. :thumbup:


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21848885 - 06/24/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nice interesting read :thumbup: I will keep an eye on this thread, love experimentation.

My opinion is that this whole idea of giving "more nutrients" is flawed though. I don't think mushrooms need that. The little fuckers can produce a full canopy on straight coir and a few grains. What do you guys think?


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: LeopardMan]
    #21848905 - 06/24/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Nice interesting read :thumbup: I will keep an eye on this thread, love experimentation.

My opinion is that this whole idea of giving "more nutrients" is flawed though. I don't think mushrooms need that. The little fuckers can produce a full canopy on straight coir and a few grains. What do you guys think?




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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #21848930 - 06/24/15 04:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The thread is actually a tek written about properly preparing rice. There is a reason why I marked the supplements I use as optional and I even explained that they are simply used for my entertainment purposes only. No one said you have to use them and they can easily be omitted from the recipe.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
    #21848992 - 06/24/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Insanely easy grain prep, by insanemike:smilingpuppy:


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
    #21849024 - 06/24/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The thread is actually a tek written about properly preparing rice. There is a reason why I marked the supplements I use as optional and I even explained that they are simply used for my entertainment purposes only. No one said you have to use them and they can easily be omitted from the recipe.




It wasn't directed at you, ofc. I was just talking about this somewhat popular idea I always find mentioned in MC. Your thread only reminded me of that.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: LeopardMan]
    #21849317 - 06/24/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the clarification, leopardman. I understand that without clear cut evidence of beneficial nutritional enhancements, it's all just speculation. Science is my first love so naturally I find entertainment in it. Hobby's are suppose to be hard work but most of all they should be entertaining. I love this hobby because it keeps me busy and within "mycological parameters", nutrition is a  perfect companion science.

How do you know there isn't a specific combination of macro and micro nutritents for each species of mushroom? This area has not even scratched through the surface of its depth. I'm not saying genetics shouldn't be explored but it shouldn't be the only other companion science beside environmental.

Speaking of environmental, when is the last time someone came up with a cool new fruiting chamber design? I was think about something last night. What if there is a better way than stuffing your holes with an undisclosed amount of polyfil? Like say, figuring out at what micron filter would let the perfect amount of air in and out of the tub?

Does anyone love exploring science just for the hell of it anymore? Never do I ever want to feel like I'm actually working, that would get boring and I would become another lazy depressed American sitting in front of the tv watching unfunny sitcoms and eating funyuns and shit.

Buck, :lol:  that insanely part was spontaneous. I litterally thought of it just before posting.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: insanemike]
    #21850121 - 06/24/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Thanks for the clarification, leopardman. I understand that without clear cut evidence of beneficial nutritional enhancements, it's all just speculation. Science is my first love so naturally I find entertainment in it. Hobby's are suppose to be hard work but most of all they should be entertaining. I love this hobby because it keeps me busy and within "mycological parameters", nutrition is a  perfect companion science.

How do you know there isn't a specific combination of macro and micro nutritents for each species of mushroom? This area has not even scratched through the surface of its depth. I'm not saying genetics shouldn't be explored but it shouldn't be the only other companion science beside environmental.




It could be, we don't know for sure. My personal opinion is that water, not nutrients, is the most important and undervalued ingredient of a successful grow.

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Speaking of environmental, when is the last time someone came up with a cool new fruiting chamber design? I was think about something last night. What if there is a better way than stuffing your holes with an undisclosed amount of polyfil? Like say, figuring out at what micron filter would let the perfect amount of air in and out of the tub?




There is room for improvement for sure. On the other hand, a SGFC or a monotub are so cheap and effective that nobody feels the need to improve them. It's like the umbrella. We got smartphones and drones and superconductors, but we still use the same thing people have been using for centuries when we need to cover our head from the rain.

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Does anyone love exploring science just for the hell of it anymore? Never do I ever want to feel like I'm actually working, that would get boring and I would become another lazy depressed American sitting in front of the tv watching unfunny sitcoms and eating funyuns and shit.





I do for sure :super: And here's five shrooms for you:mushroom2:


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: LeopardMan]
    #21850151 - 06/24/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hello,
I bought a growing kit and a syringe of spores 10ml. The kit was with ingredients for two bags only. I did everything as I was supposed to (in sterile environment) and I have put the bags t a show box and inside a drawer. The temperature is approximately 80F. Two weeks have passed and the progress is not really going fast. I attached pictures. Please give me an advice why the incubation is going so slow. Thanks in advance. Peace.





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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: LeopardMan]
    #21850173 - 06/24/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:rockon: great discussion! I too looked at the whole supplements idea with a grain of salt. However using different grains sounds awesome. It seems certain grains are more beneficial for different species. Oysters and oats go hand in hand. Cubes love lots of grains, but people have noticed bad differences when using rice over many other grains.

It's definitely like cooking. Mixing it all up. Also it'd be good too if you had a shortage of a certain grain you like, you can make the grain last longer. Say you're short millet and have a lot of oats, you can mix them, and have more inoculation points than pure oats too.

Mike, make a green house, and do it your way. Dial it in like a boss. I know it's not a new fruiting chamber idea per se, but it still is fun to do. Could also improve on the monotub tek. I know some people use magnets and filters for the holes instead of poly. Magnet is covering the hole for colonization, then pull it off and have the filter exposed for fruiting.


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Re: Insanely Easy Natural Whole Grain Rice (brown rice) Prep [Re: Jaboka]
    #21850246 - 06/24/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hello,
I bought a growing kit and a syringe of spores 10ml. The kit was with ingredients for two bags only. I did everything as I was supposed to (in sterile environment) and I have put the bags t a show box and inside a drawer. The temperature is approximately 80F. Two weeks have passed and the progress is not really going fast. I attached pictures. Please give me an advice why the incubation is going so slow. Thanks in advance. Peace.








Maybe you should start your own thread next time where the topic is dedicated to your situation.

To guess, I would say it's taking forever because you've got the bag rolled up not allowing good gas exchange through the filter on the bag. Unroll it and set it on a shelf.


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