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Question for you social trippers. Acid.
    #21842216 - 06/22/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I usually trip with a few close friends, usually 2 at most....this weekend me and those same trippers are going kayaking and probably taking acid before we go.

Last time we went it was my one friend, his girlfriend, and her friend....we'll call her friend butch. Butch is extremely hot and apparently into me according to my friends girl, but we didn't trip that time.

Never tripped in a public setting before, let alone with a girl I'm trying to get with. Do you think I'll be a bitchy queer and come off awkward if I'm tripping? Or will I be fine and get that slobber knob all day long?

She's cool with drug use but usually doesn't do them herself.

I'm usually fine tripping with friends but lets face it, haven't touched a booby in forever and don't want to fuck it up. So give this faggot some advice.

Basically want to know if it's easy to be yourself while tripping around people you're unfamiliar with, since I've never done so, or does it give you a weird "vibe"

Help me get Butch.

Would of made this in TPE, but I did that before about acid and kayaking, and the amount of fucktard answers I got was painful. Discuss intelligently?


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 3
    #21842231 - 06/22/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't trip


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 5
    #21842236 - 06/22/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Discuss painfully?




Only you know how much of a faggot you are when you're on acid. We can see by your making of this thread that you are concerned about your level of faggotry, so maybe just pick one or the other if you think you can't handle both.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod] * 3
    #21842255 - 06/22/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Don't trip



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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21842262 - 06/22/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i would do it because i love kyaking and tripping but havent had a chance to mix them yet. if butch drops go for it and drop together, but if she doesent i would reccomend either not tripping or maybe just do a little and it would be a good excuse to give if you act weird since she is cool with drugs she probably wont mind a little weirdness or you being a little more ballsy about being upfront about dating or that type of thing if it comes up


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: blackhawk] * 4
    #21842267 - 06/22/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If I were you I would take a very, very light dose of LSD for a few reasons.  You will be so involved in the conversation with her that she will find it attractive and also your pupils will dilate and its proven that people are more comfortable and like a person more if their pupils are dilated.  I would also suggest bringing just a few beers to take the edge off man.  Best of luck.  Just don't forget to ask her good question after good question and also smile, lots of eye contact, break the touch barrier early on and also don't hesitate to close.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21842326 - 06/22/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

fuck it seems like I just shouldn't trip lol I guess I'm not going to because I got a shot with her so I don't want to fuck it up, probably just going to stick with beer and possibly weed.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 1
    #21842333 - 06/22/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good move.  Tripping is for later after you get to know each other.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21842357 - 06/22/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i'd be more concerned for her trip than urs. i've noticed girls are usually more sensitive to mushrooms and like sometimes their feelings can go all over the place.. from like laughing to crying in seconds or even both at the same time..

yea probably not the right time yet.. especially since u dont know each other very well..


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zZZz]
    #21842406 - 06/22/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I probably wouldn't do it if you're actually trying to get laid. There's definitely going to be some awkward moments. Acid is weird like that


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21842452 - 06/22/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I second the don't trip advice but... I do think I personally have a lot more game on acid. I just don't care about anything and I am much more bold and forward. As long as I am not in too deep obviously.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21842926 - 06/22/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bring some molly! Don't trip though.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: chevy66driver] * 1
    #21842953 - 06/22/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bring some molly! Don't trip though.




Some MDMA would be perfect for a situation like this. Tripping off some L with somebody you don't really know is usually pretty awkward.. at least for me.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21843021 - 06/22/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Don't trip



Terrible advice.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #21843169 - 06/22/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Don't trip



Terrible advice.



On a first date with a girl you wanna get with?  You are nuts.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Shroomopotamus]
    #21843175 - 06/22/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see why not except you should be careful tripping while kayaking, unless you're a very experienced tripper, but still use caution.

I would definitely do it if I were with a girl like that. This weekend my friend and I took acid and tripped really hard off one tab. I came very close to hooking up with a girl - she was all over me, very flirtatious, even got between my legs and nearly had her face on my dick - but I passed up on it because she was a little too far gone :rofl: I had been babysitting her and a couple of her friends all night while tripping because they were all so drunk.

Anyways I would never pass up on hooking up while on acid. Might have to drop again soon and try it out as I haven't gotten to yet.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #21843285 - 06/22/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i think you should do it i mean she doesent mind drugs it would cause you to be more open which is a good thing and if it turns into a relationship you shouldnt give something up to start a relationship and then think onece you have her you can drop as you wish. that seems to me like it would start things off on the wrong foot. but if its just sex you may need to take the gonzo approach and feed her full of acid and take her to a hotel room :pimp:


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21843302 - 06/22/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I find a half hit of good Acid (around 50 micrograms) to be perfect for social/public tripping. I would advise NO MORE than half a hit.

for me, half a hit makes me socialable, goofy, kind-spirited and confident. Remember set and setting and you will be fine.


Good luck :thumbup:


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21843379 - 06/22/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How the fuck do you guys know what is in a hit?  I never did back in the day.  Do you test it?  Hell fucking mushroom potency is all over the place.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21843388 - 06/22/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How the fuck do you guys know what is in a hit?  I never did back in the day.  Do you test it?  Hell fucking mushroom potency is all over the place.




He doesn't know how much is in a hit, thats how.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21843422 - 06/22/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How the fuck do you guys know what is in a hit?  I never did back in the day.  Do you test it?  Hell fucking mushroom potency is all over the place.




i dont know how much is in one hit, but i do know that one hit is a "strong" experience and half of a strong hit is a "social/party" dose. I used to cut tabs up all the time and take half a hit.

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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21843426 - 06/22/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How could you possibly know how strong its laid? :youseethisshit:  I've had hits that completely had me spun, then I've had to take 4 to get a solid trip going. 

If it were me and she agreed to it Id try it with her.  But I'm one unabashed really hard to embarrass person.  Also,people have been known to go down some dark roads on psychedelics, reliving memories that got pushed back into your subconscious whilst around somebody you barely know can in and of itself be unsettling. 

My advise is to read Leary and Alperts "The Psychedelic Experience" before you do anything.  It's found in the shroomery PDF library and its like 50 pages long.  Whatever you do stay centred, don't project, and always remember, "Fear is the Mindkiller".


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21843439 - 06/22/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also, :nitrous:


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21843539 - 06/22/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

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How the fuck do you guys know what is in a hit?  I never did back in the day.  Do you test it?  Hell fucking mushroom potency is all over the place.




i dont know how much is in one hit, but i do know that one hit is a "strong" experience and half of a strong hit is a "social/party" dose. I used to cut tabs up all the time and take half a hit.

Its nothing short of fuckin awesome good time!



I see people here talking about knowing how many Mikes they are getting and I'm thinking to myself, "how the fuck do they know?".  From my experience it has always been a crapsoot


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21843552 - 06/22/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with the poster who suggested MDMA or a mild stimulant.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21843575 - 06/22/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Don't trip




Yeah this, I wouldn't even consider it in this particular situation. Save the L.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21843693 - 06/22/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How the fuck do you guys know what is in a hit?  I never did back in the day.  Do you test it?  Hell fucking mushroom potency is all over the place.



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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21843768 - 06/22/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well, i dont know how much micrograms it had, but based on collective subjective reports on the shroomery from posters who claimed they had confirmed microgram dosages, i would say my past hits had been around 100 micros (again, based on subjective reports from people who had darknet acid for example).

ive had reeally weak hits too which one was way less than a half a hit of the good hits, and i have a rough idea of how much micrograms i have had in those past hits.

So, if OP has a typical one hit of good acid (which is around 95 - 125 micrograms), then half a hit would be pretty perfect in my opinion.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21844011 - 06/22/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Social tripping isn't so bad, but only if everyone is tripping. If sober people are in the mix then it starts gettin' weird. :cuckoo:


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21844549 - 06/23/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
How the fuck do you guys know what is in a hit?  I never did back in the day.  Do you test it?  Hell fucking mushroom potency is all over the place.




i dont know how much is in one hit, but i do know that one hit is a "strong" experience and half of a strong hit is a "social/party" dose. I used to cut tabs up all the time and take half a hit.

Its nothing short of fuckin awesome good time!



I see people here talking about knowing how many Mikes they are getting and I'm thinking to myself, "how the fuck do they know?".  From my experience it has always been a crapsoot




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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: GoldenEye] * 2
    #21844559 - 06/23/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Be the sober, horny guy that plagues her acid kayaking trip.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21844779 - 06/23/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have a lot that are supposedly 100ug hits and even more that are supposed to be 150ug....I'm not going to be taking them this time, if I was jus gonna try and get laid I would, but since I know I have a shot and she was fun to chill with last time I'd rather try for something more if its an option.


Assuming 100ug is accurate, which its probably less, would that be too much for kayaking? My friend still wants to take it even though I'm not because he thinks acid is super easy to handle but he's done it less than me and I don't want to be a babysitter either...or should i just give him half a hit lol he brings Xanax with him everywhere he goes too idk if that matters

I've tripped with him a number of times before and he was always normal except once when it turned bad but he just went upstairs and laid down until he camedown. How's drinking with it too because it's almost gaurenteed he'll be doing that as well


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21844782 - 06/23/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Don't trip



Terrible advice.



On a first date with a girl you wanna get with?  You are nuts.




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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Lucis]
    #21844807 - 06/23/15 05:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well if it works for Alex Grey it must work for everyone.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Webster10]
    #21844821 - 06/23/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Precisely. :cookiemonster:

Seriously though, I know a bunch of folks who have made life long friendships after meeting on LSD.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Lucis]
    #21844830 - 06/23/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Do it dudeeeee. Women love guys that eat LSD and go kayaking :seriousthumbsup: gets their panties wet


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21844836 - 06/23/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Be the sober, horny guy that plagues her acid kayaking trip.



This is totally a possibility if you let yourself devulge into sexual ego games.  You CANNOT project that if you're planning on tripping on this Kayak trip. 

I trully found the love of my life and I KNEW it the day we first tripped LSD together.  I mean granted we hadn't just met or anything but we were still pretty new to each other. :shrug:

It can happen.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 1
    #21844852 - 06/23/15 06:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cool.

I think LSD breaks down the "ima be cool for this girl/guy" barrier that so many put on, which is really just a front.  It allows our true selves to shine, which is why many have found love/friendship while under its voodoo.

LSD is wonderful.:heart:


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Lucis]
    #21844978 - 06/23/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If both OP and the girl were going to take it, I think it'd be a good idea. But if just OP takes it, it may dissolve his "imma be cool" facade and make him seem weird to the girl, whose facade is going to remain in tact. Drug use isn't something sexy in the eyes of a lot of women I've met, especially when they're not even that into drugs themselves.

OP just drink a few beers during the day, but not too much. Just enough to ease any social anxiety and to loosen you up a bit. And then only if she wants to with you, smoke some weed with her. But that'd be best left until around nightime so you don't look like a glossy eyed retard in broad daylight.

Good luck man, just be confident and yourself and she'll probably respond. And if there's on thing I can't stress enough, it'd be to don't be afraid to make the first move.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Webster10]
    #21844985 - 06/23/15 07:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Who would want to hang out with uptight women who wouldn't take drugs anyway?


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21844990 - 06/23/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Anyone who doesn't take LSD is uptight IYO? The majority of women I've talked to are only into alcohol and soft stuff like weed or maybe mushrooms once in a blue moon.

Personally, I'd want to hang out with an uptight woman who doesn't want to do drugs because she is, by OPs description, very hot and into him.

OP did mention he's been in a rut :shrug: She could be the rut buster.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21845030 - 06/23/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Last time I tripped in a social setting I got laid with a stranger. Lots of eye contact throughout, that helped the most. So smile a lot and look her in the eye. To avoid being awkward I'd suggest a few beers or a benzo.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: plambe]
    #21845393 - 06/23/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Depends on how you handle L.

I ate a hit the other day with some friends and they didn't have a clue until I mentioned it.

one hit is really easy to ride, and I feel loose, and comfortable if it's just a single dose.

for me, i think it would take the edge off, and like someone else said, remove the "cool guy, let me impress you so you'll put my dick in your mouth" attitude.


personally, I would eat the one hit if you feel as comfortable on low doses of L as I do.

either way, just have fun and don't think about it so much man.  just be present and all will unfold as it should :sunny:


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Mr.PhilCybin] * 1
    #21845403 - 06/23/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would suggest he take half a hit cause kayaking tripping dosent sound too safe


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21845413 - 06/23/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I feel like I've done way more dangerous things on bigger doses, but everyone reacts a little different I guess.


He should just do whatever feels right in the moment. :thumbup:

not much point in worrying about it now.

just like, be here now man :thedude:


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #21845419 - 06/23/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Agreed


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #21847171 - 06/23/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I would suggest he take half a hit cause kayaking tripping dosent sound too safe




Excellent advice. I think a full hit is just too immersive to talk with a girl coherently.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21847329 - 06/23/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just don't try, if she enjoys you for you then its a win win. Unless you just want a piece of ass, don't do acid and enjoy the kayaking.


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Re: Question for you social trippers. Acid. [Re: lovesquare]
    #21872221 - 06/29/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Did you end up tripping op?


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