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Syrian Rue + Shrooms
    #21841675 - 06/22/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hello folks.

I've been feeling for some time to combine an MAOi with mushrooms but never really done it due all the trouble with the diet for MAOi. Now I know better what to eat and what to avoid and a shaman who I will journey in the future with Ayahuasca recommended me to try to shroom with syrian rue.

I am curious about any of your experience in combining about 5 grams of dry cubes or 15 grams of fresh truffles with Syrian Rue. I plan to avoid the "forbidden" foods for about 3-4 days before the trip to detox well my body. Is still a risk to puke due the MAOi? I never get nausea or anything with shrooms so I am not worried about that.

I do not take any meds, the closest to a med I take is CBD Cannabis Oil for neuropatic pain, and thats it.

And well, how much will it impact the trip? I was told it is going to be a lot more intense.:trippinbawelz:


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Re: Syrian Rue + Shrooms [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #21841731 - 06/22/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Syrian Rue + Shrooms [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #21841752 - 06/22/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hey there, i wrote about it here:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21469251#21469251

last time in april (4g cubensis and 4g rue) i got really bad nausea on the come up, first time that bad, managed to avoid purging by not moving at all. when i was peaking the nausea was gone and i was absolutely fine from then on. stupid me, every single time i prepared a bucket even though there was never nausea. this time i did not and for sure was not capable to move whatsoever to get one :smile:

about dosage: 5g cubensis with rue, the normal reaction is: DON'T DO IT. don't know what 15g truffles is at all ... i read everywhere 2g or 2.5g cubensis if you take rue, not more.

from my own experience the last 4g cubensis with rue was for sure pretty insane and stronger than the 5.5g i had in january without rue. and i need relatively high dosage to get somewhere. i still up the dose but not because the trip is "better". it depends what i want to achieve. pushing the envelope like that is the explorer in me. next stop for me 5.5g cubensis with 4g rue ... but after the insane trip in april i realized i will need some more time before i go for that :smile:

just two weeks ago i tripped very fine on 3.5g without rue. was the most emotional trip i had so far, did go trough some emotional stuff at the time and 3.5g were just perfect for that. another time i had 2g with some raw cocoa, went for running, very smooth.

about dieting: 3-4 days before will sure not hurt. but from what i read about rue as selective and reversible MAOI much less is necessary. in the link above you find what i do.

good luck!


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Re: Syrian Rue + Shrooms [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #21841755 - 06/22/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

MAOIs such as syrian rue potentiate psilocin quite drastically, so 5g dried is definitely a bit much. From what I've heard, even 1g of good cubensis is enough when fully MAO inhibited, especially for your first trip with this combination.

Apparently syrian rue can get a bit rough and nausea-inducing with a good dose. You may want to look into Banisteriopsis caapi or a Manske extraction for your harmalas.


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Re: Syrian Rue + Shrooms [Re: Starless]
    #21841761 - 06/22/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Or I've also heard of smoking MAOI.

Would have a shorter duration if smoked. But you'd be able to totally avoid a MAOI diet this way. And any misfires would end sooner.


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Re: Syrian Rue + Shrooms [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21841786 - 06/22/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Psilohuasca is the shit!
very much recommended, the harmalas give it a very spiritual touch
They also potentiate (roughly double) the dosage, 5g+maoi will be a VERY intense ride if you have decently potent material

Rue is a somewhat weak MAOI, so theres really no need to worry too much about the diet, but its always a good idea to eat healthy before a heavy trip
To minimize nausea it helps to brew and strain the shrooms and rue (separately), but you will still feel it
Just the taste of rue tea can be enough to make you sick, that stuff is VILE


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Re: Syrian Rue + Shrooms [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21841788 - 06/22/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I tried it for the first time a few weeks back. I did 2.3 grams of shrooms an 225 milligrams of extracted harmless. was a very bizarre trip but also a trip where I didn't feel very high. I had some very bizarre closed imaginative visuals involving mantis like insectoid creatures and the fabric of reality. but there was no euphoria like I have on the straight mushroom dose. I was suggested to take 2 grams but I think 3.5 would have been a little better for me. as far as potentiate it really didn't have any for me but I'm wondering if that higher dose will take me there?my biggest concern is losing that feel good euphoria that I experience on a straight shroom trip. I really f****** love that!


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Re: Syrian Rue + Shrooms [Re: thoraxx]
    #21841942 - 06/22/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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thoraxx said:
Just the taste of rue tea can be enough to make you sick, that stuff is VILE




:laugh: very true! this stuff is the worst i ever tasted, VILE is the word, in capital letters!
my tip, boil it down to a shot glass amount. have a glass of water and a glass of orange juice ready. breath out, hold your nose, drink the rue extract, then the water, then the oj, then let your nose go, and the watch out when you burp :smile:


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using: psilocybe cubensis, cannabis, kratom, peganum harmala, alcohol experience: mushroom tryptamines usually 3.5g (somtimes with MAOI) every 2nd or 3rd month, since 2014, so far 28 times, 12 times >3g, highest dose so far 5.5g with MAOI, two micro dosing experiment for 17 days, 0.3g each day, and 0.6g every 3rd/4th day for 6 weeks cannabinoids twice a week doses to get high not stoned, since 2011, kratomjust starting but 3g seems a good dose, planned once a weekβ-carbolines only as MAOI in combination with tryptamines, extracted from peganum harmala (syrian rue), alcohol low doses on empty stomach twice a month, mostly in combination with cannabis


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