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Abused the shroom... paid the price
    #21841064 - 06/22/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hello All,

So I got back into growing about 6 months ago and made a noob mistake.  My cakes started flushing and I soon began to dose whenever I had free time.  I abused them.  And it didn't go well.

Last Saturday I harvested close to 15 grams dry off 4 cakes and immediately took a 3 gram dose after about a 3 month break.  Trip was excellent with great visuals and mind therapy.

Then I said fuck it, and dosed 3.5 grams on Sunday.  I know. It was a mistake.  I still tripped pretty good but the visuals were definitely limited. 

Tuesday comes, I say "Hey, its been 2 day... maybe I should dose again".  Took 2.5 grams and had a very mild trip.

Thursday took a 4 gram trip on my day off and had a decent trip but it only lasted like 2 hours max.  My head started feeling shitty.

Then Saturday, I took 5 grams... didn't feel anything other than a body load, nausea, and very weird head space.  Pretty much all the symptoms of tripping that suck.

So I come here to apologize for abusing their power and to possibly be a guide to someone who may go down this same road.  After this experience, I truly feel that 7 days is the bare minimum.  That Saturday trip was just awful.  Couldn't get comfortable, irritated, etc. 

I'm harvesting more cakes this week but don't intend on doing anything until 2 weeks.  Tripping weekly can have its merits, but I learned the hard way that abusing these things will catch up to you.  5 grams would've rocked my ass without tolerance.  And instead, I have wasted a ton of my harvest.

Thanks for listening.  Take this advice: slow your roll :smile:


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: bsfurr]
    #21841087 - 06/22/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good advice.
My buddy got bad hppd from eating microdots too often.
He hates it and refuses to trip ever again.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21841140 - 06/22/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

reported for mushroom cruelty.
not really


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21841146 - 06/22/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cheer up, it could be much worse.  When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be about freaking out, injury, hospitals, police, jail..etc. All you did is build a tolerance and waste some shrooms. One good thing about growing them is that there's always more on their way.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Universe]
    #21841151 - 06/22/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Feel luck thats all that happened


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: bsfurr]
    #21841152 - 06/22/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

2 weeks bro....I've been tripping every 2 weeks for 8 months and is still a magical experience every time. I take one week to analyze and integrate the previous trip and then spend a week planning the next adventure. go out and do something f****** cool like go to nature or the beach or something like that. people on here really don't seem to know a lot about set and setting. or they don't seem to utilize it very often or very well. kind of disgusts me when people treat this s*** like toys not tools. if you want to treat it like a toy I hope you have a bad f****** trip! not you in particular bro but anybody that wants to treat the mushroom trivially. I went to some old school deadhead house and everyone there was tripping on acid in this dingy dirty house and I was like "fucking gross "....they thought they were hardcore trippers or something like that but if they can't find a better place than that the trip they're just a bunch of f****** noobs as far as I'm concerned. no matter how much s*** they've eaten previously. idiots.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21841168 - 06/22/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good advice.
Lucky that nothing too bad happened, you hear all sorts of crazy stories about people losing it here :lol:

Tripping is best done infrequently. As you found out, tolerance builds extremely fast anyways.

And you know, you can fucking swear in here, reading that post full of ***'s is painful..!


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Tcm19277]
    #21841179 - 06/22/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah every 14 to 21 days is the break needed for basically full force awesome trips. It is good you learned the hard way about abusing the shrooms and stacking in too many trips together. That is how I learned and how most people learn from what i've read and seen in person.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Tcm19277]
    #21841187 - 06/22/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I try to put 2 weeks to a month in between for for that very reason. Seen a few stories like this and learned from others before I made that mistake for myself thankfully


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Trickyricky217]
    #21841249 - 06/22/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Glad you learned your lesson. I trip every 2 weeks (14 days) and its always golden.
I used to trip every 7 days, and it was still pretty golden.
I would never consider doing it as frequently as you did.

Just have some patience friend. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21841257 - 06/22/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You've recognised when enough is enough.
That's all that matters mate.

You'll know when it's time again :smile:


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: teenagehippie]
    #21841375 - 06/22/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the comments guys!

Yes, I too hate it when people treat mushrooms like some sort of recreational high.  I have one more thing I'd like to run by you guys:

I have a roommate, my cousin, who I love and grew up with all my life.  The problem is that I have had some experiences in college and met some new friends who have changed my life for the better.  We both grew up in small towns, prejudice people who were either alcoholics, junkies, or jesus freaks.

But I got away for a few years and now I see the prison oneself builds around himself when surrounded by that environment.  So I've introduced him to shrooms gradually and was hoping that it would bring about change in his life.  But it really hasn't.

In fact, I think he might have some mental issues because all he wants to do is argue with people. Constantly.  He is a functional alcoholic. And he isn't aware of how ignorant he sounds when he continues to be prejudice.  He's extremely negative and i'm nearly out of options.  In fact, a positive attitude seems to annoy him. I've been trying help him achieve awareness of how his thoughts and actions are ruining him.

We get along fine, but I was hoping the power of mushrooms could help him.  I haven't forced it upon him and he's never taken a large dose, just small ones.  Maybe one day he will see the light. Maybe he's a lost cause.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Tcm19277]
    #21841404 - 06/22/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Tcm19277 said:
Good advice.
Lucky that nothing too bad happened, you hear all sorts of crazy stories about people losing it here :lol:

Tripping is best done infrequently. As you found out, tolerance builds extremely fast anyways.

And you know, you can fucking swear in here, reading that post full of ***'s is painful..!




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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: bsfurr]
    #21841440 - 06/22/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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bsfurr said:
Thanks for the comments guys!

Yes, I too hate it when people treat mushrooms like some sort of recreational high.  I have one more thing I'd like to run by you guys:

I have a roommate, my cousin, who I love and grew up with all my life.  The problem is that I have had some experiences in college and met some new friends who have changed my life for the better.  We both grew up in small towns, prejudice people who were either alcoholics, junkies, or jesus freaks.

But I got away for a few years and now I see the prison oneself builds around himself when surrounded by that environment.  So I've introduced him to shrooms gradually and was hoping that it would bring about change in his life.  But it really hasn't.

In fact, I think he might have some mental issues because all he wants to do is argue with people. Constantly.  He is a functional alcoholic. And he isn't aware of how ignorant he sounds when he continues to be prejudice.  He's extremely negative and i'm nearly out of options.  In fact, a positive attitude seems to annoy him. I've been trying help him achieve awareness of how his thoughts and actions are ruining him.

We get along fine, but I was hoping the power of mushrooms could help him.  I haven't forced it upon him and he's never taken a large dose, just small ones.  Maybe one day he will see the light. Maybe he's a lost cause.




Heres your answer:
Your buddy needs a large dose. He needs a large dose that will kick him in the ass and teach him a fucking lesson. Seriously.
Whether or not he is aware how large the dose is he is taking (make him a tea), give him a level 4-5.
That is his only chance, IMO, based on what you said, IME.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: bsfurr]
    #21841485 - 06/22/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

bsfurr said:
Thanks for the comments guys!

Yes, I too hate it when people treat mushrooms like some sort of recreational high.  I have one more thing I'd like to run by you guys:

I have a roommate, my cousin, who I love and grew up with all my life.  The problem is that I have had some experiences in college and met some new friends who have changed my life for the better.  We both grew up in small towns, prejudice people who were either alcoholics, junkies, or jesus freaks.

But I got away for a few years and now I see the prison oneself builds around himself when surrounded by that environment.  So I've introduced him to shrooms gradually and was hoping that it would bring about change in his life.  But it really hasn't.

In fact, I think he might have some mental issues because all he wants to do is argue with people. Constantly.  He is a functional alcoholic. And he isn't aware of how ignorant he sounds when he continues to be prejudice.  He's extremely negative and i'm nearly out of options.  In fact, a positive attitude seems to annoy him. I've been trying help him achieve awareness of how his thoughts and actions are ruining him.

We get along fine, but I was hoping the power of mushrooms could help him.  I haven't forced it upon him and he's never taken a large dose, just small ones.  Maybe one day he will see the light. Maybe he's a lost cause.




.....slip him a nice 7 gram dose. then use some strategic videos to brainwash that s*** out of his mind. fill his mind with empathy for ever and ever.the worst thing that could happen is nothing.:bigyesnod:


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21841525 - 06/22/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Happy you learned such a good lesson. The mushrooms must've known you would, or your lesson probably would have been trips much worse than what you described.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: bsfurr]
    #21841638 - 06/22/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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bsfurr said::

I have a roommate, my cousin, who I love and grew up with all my life.  The problem is that I have had some experiences in college and met some new friends who have changed my life for the better.  We both grew up in small towns, prejudice people who were either alcoholics, junkies, or jesus freaks.

In fact, I think he might have some mental issues because all he wants to do is argue with people. Constantly.  He is a functional alcoholic. And he isn't aware of how ignorant he sounds when he continues to be prejudice.  He's extremely negative and i'm nearly out of options.  In fact, a positive attitude seems to annoy him. I've been trying help him achieve awareness of how his thoughts and actions are ruining him.





Alcoholism is no joke and I just stopped drinking myself. Started drinking super young and have over 15 years of very hard drinking on the books already. He wont be a more positive and accepting person for as long as he is an alcoholic. Now I am not anti drinking or super anti alcoholics or anything, but that is just the truth of the beast that is alcoholism. I am pretty negative by nature and drinking only makes it worse and me care less about everything. My friend also has 15+ years of hard drinking, but just got out of treatment 2 months ago and is much nicer and happier now that he isn't drunk 24/7 an always hungover. He was insanely negative and rude while being a drunk for over a decade. The 2 months of sobriety have helped him, plus legal weed state so he can go grab joints from the local government owned stores haha.


Anyways i'm just letting you know that you shouldn't expect his personality to change until he quits drinking. I have had a lot of friends die behind drinking, or commit the worst possible crimes and end up in prison for decades and decades. Not much positive comes from being an alcoholic whether it's "functional" or the non functional variety. Being surrounded by like minded people and in a state of perpetual drunkenness wont bring about any type of positive change for people unless they choose to end the brutal cycle.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #21841690 - 06/22/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You learned your lesson OP, the mushroom taught you well.

Apologize to them too (the newly ones growing, but I bet you already did) wait a couple weeks at least, make a good settling, put up some good tones, eat 4 grams dry and you will have a fabulous trip. Follow your intuition for future trips, don't just do it. I had long lulls of no tripping and just stocking my growths of 4-5 months, and then maybe I trip twice in a month, or three times in two months, then a whole month wait, etc... I just do them when I feel is right or needed.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #21841747 - 06/22/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Idk, if you're waiting for tolerance to dissipate and trip again I feel like you're not getting the same message I got from them.

Not that it matters, I'm just in awe at those who like to trip as often as possible. The shrooms tell me to do the opposite, and live in reality for a long while. Then eventually I stray and end up ingesting them again and learning the same lesson. It's never been a "can't wait to do this again in x days" ordeal.

We're all different though.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: ModestMouse]
    #21841833 - 06/22/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Idk, if you're waiting for tolerance to dissipate and trip again I feel like you're not getting the same message I got from them.

Not that it matters, I'm just in awe at those who like to trip as often as possible. The shrooms tell me to do the opposite, and live in reality for a long while. Then eventually I stray and end up ingesting them again and learning the same lesson. It's never been a "can't wait to do this again in x days" ordeal.

We're all different though.




.....I'm having a total mushroom Renaissance right now! :-)I've actually never done mushrooms this consistently at any time previously in my life. after a long hiatus I came back to mushrooms and absolutely enjoying my experiences to the maximum!
  Being a little older now I can take a lot more from it and design and build custom trips that are fun and amazing!I have integrated so many things into my life through the empathetic understanding imparted by the mushroom.I eat really good and exercise as well as try to be meditative and thoughtful. it improved my intellectual understanding as well as my spiritual capacity.

  My life is better because of mushrooms and their lessons. who knows what the future will bring, but for now, I intend to continue with my bi monthly ritualistic experiences! :yogabunny:  :takingnotes:  :hairmetal:  :rimshot:  :wave:  :levitate:  :thumbup:  :vibin:  :wonka:  :brainondrugs:  :trippnballs:


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #21841878 - 06/22/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah every 14 to 21 days is the break needed for basically full force awesome trips. It is good you learned the hard way about abusing the shrooms and stacking in too many trips together. That is how I learned and how most people learn from what i've read and seen in person.





for me, 25 days is the absolute sweet spot.

21 days is certainly doable as well.


18 days is the closest ill go between trips.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21841998 - 06/22/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah 25 days is really good, should be zero'd out by then :thumbup:


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #21864500 - 06/27/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Spot on. Good life lesson; glad you shared. Very helpful for others.

I'm older now and can reflect back on my youth (teenager) with regards to tripping. I was taking shrooms way to frequently then added acid as a booster. Handful of Quaalude's or Valium, just in case. Stopped all that...until 35 years later. Now.

I enjoy shrooms recreationally, medicinally and spiritually.

Recreationally for Gaming/Chilling/Gardening/Hiking- I take 1.5 to 2 grams and might boost a gram while gaming or listening to music and what not.

Medicinally- Once in a while, I get a weird headache, or my brain seems to be subtly off kilter. I'll take a 1-gram with a glass of pineapple juice or water just before bed.

Spiritually- I now know how to learn from and respect people, places and things. If I am tripping for spiritual learning, I definitely wait at least 30 days before taking the shrooms. Shower, shave and pay my respects, as it were, to the mushroom and the power of the mushroom. By that I mean, I reflect on what the mushroom is and what I am; what it teaches me and such. I'll usually take 20-35 grams, wet.
* 20-25 grams for the pins & runts (these seem especially strong to me)
* 30-35 for the normal size (well, these are strong too..)
This trip is serious business and I usually wind up in bed shortly after take-off as the visuals become overwhelming.

Given all that, I might take a 2 grams one weekend, then two weeks later take 2+1.
Then nothing for a month or two. I don't imbibe constantly. I don't abuse our little friends and their offerings.

In the thread, two comments rung true for me:
* HalfOwlHalfShroom said the mushrooms must have known you'd learn a lesson, so they were nice to you (as they usually are)
* AkshicExplorer recommended apologizing to them. (I do this when picking the fruit)

I think the point is its acknowledging them and being respectful to the Nature Spirit and all of that...what I have learned to be the Cosmic Consciousness, God, Love. Through mushrooms, I have learned that God is Cosmic Consciousness. God is Love. All of us make up the Cosmic Consciousness...and still learning stuff like that.

fwiw, I consider myself a conservative Catholic-Buddhist. To the "right", but way left in the right. Retired military. For some reason, I feel the need to frame things a tad. I don't have dreadlocks and hug-trees. Not that there is anything wrong with that...
:smile:

P.S. I get the Yawns and Runny Nose thing, if you know what I mean. Just want to share that tid-bit. Not sure what that's all about, but seems pretty common.
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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21864579 - 06/27/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
Quote:

psilocybinjunkie said:
Yeah every 14 to 21 days is the break needed for basically full force awesome trips. It is good you learned the hard way about abusing the shrooms and stacking in too many trips together. That is how I learned and how most people learn from what i've read and seen in person.





for me, 25 days is the absolute sweet spot.

21 days is certainly doable as well.


18 days is the closest ill go between trips.




you people srs???

life is too boring to wait that long for me holy crap

from the beginning of last summer to around jan 3rd it was an every 3 day event for me and I felt like there was zero tolerance in doing so

yes I have a very fast metabolism so that helps me get away with it

I'm trying to get it back to every 7 days though

I waited like almost 2 weeks as of yesterday, took 3 grams, and noticed almost absolutely nothing

literally just a headache, headspace, and that's it.. I hadn't eated for almost 2.5 hours and I mean even though that was a big meal at that dose, that time frame, that shouldn't have been an issue

I'm perplexed about it really, sucks


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: cube talk]
    #21865151 - 06/27/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I usually make it about a week before I dose haha


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: Universe]
    #21865401 - 06/27/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Universe said:
Cheer up, it could be much worse.  When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be about freaking out, injury, hospitals, police, jail..etc. All you did is build a tolerance and waste some shrooms. One good thing about growing them is that there's always more on their way.



Exactly

Things could have been a lot worse. Mushrooms are pretty forgiving compared to LSD. If you had done this with LSD, you'd still be high.


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Re: Abused the shroom... paid the price [Re: drr]
    #21869254 - 06/28/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just a simp' reminder, there are more substances to consume  :nyan:


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