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    #21840568 - 06/22/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

June 21, 2015



WILMINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA- Detectives with the Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office Drug Enforcement Unit have arrested to two brothers, who have been charged with trafficking LSD.

Seth Anthony Lupek, 29, and Tobias Ian Lupek, 27, of Supply, were arrested after detectives executed a search warrant at their Woodard Road home on July 16, according to sheriff’s office spokeswoman Emily Flax.

The brothers are charged with possessing 280 dosage units of LSD, according to arrest warrants.

Seth Lupek has been charged with two counts of trafficking in LSD, possession with intent to manufacture, sell and deliver a schedule I controlled substance, possession of cocaine, simple possession of a schedule III controlled substance and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Tobias Lupek has been charged with two counts of trafficking in LSD, possession with intent to manufacture, sell and deliver a schedule I controlled substance and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Seth Lupek and Tobias Lupek were booked at the Brunswick County jail under $100,000 secured bonds.

http://portcitydaily.com/2015/06/21/crime-notebook-supply-brothers-charged-with-trafficking-lsd/


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Ogla]
    #21840571 - 06/22/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You Have to be more careful next time :laugh:


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Cujllickduo] * 2
    #21840770 - 06/22/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ah yes, that damned evil schedule 1 LSD along side the lesser evil schedule 2 cocaine :hypnotoad:


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: misterogerz] * 2
    #21840830 - 06/22/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Possession with intent to manufacture?

What the fuck does that mean?

They had a couple sheets they were selling and somehow manufacturing gets thrown in?


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #21840844 - 06/22/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Toe_Jam said:
Possession with intent to manufacture?

What the fuck does that mean?





I was wondering the  same thing.  Maybe they were putting it on to blotters.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21840906 - 06/22/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

These stories really bother me, I think these "traffickers" we performing a community service, LSD can do amazing things for people, its not addictive, and as experts will tell you its safe.


( As senior LSD researcher Dr. David Nichols, Distinguished Chair of Pharmacology at Purdue University and head of one of the world's top LSD research labs, stated in his 2004 review article on hallucinogens, "There is no evidence that any of the hallucinogens, even the very powerful semisynthetic LSD, causes damage to any human body organ. [...] Hallucinogens do not cause life-threatening changes in cardiovascular, renal, or hepatic function because they have little or no affinity for the biological receptors and targets that mediate vital vegetative functions(--erowid)

We need MORE LSD, psilocin, and DMT distubution. Civil disobedience for unjust drug laws.

..the CIA and DEA are so addicted to large sums of untraceable money to fund foreign wars (during viet-nam the CIA began selling herion globally for general pao and his anti-communist army, our allies in the war, but notorious herion runners, who we could not directly fund, so we starting selling their junk as a means to support this army.....the United States government does this all the time...Reagan was using the CIA to sell cocaine for contras in Nicaragua....when certain middle eastern establishments we fighting the Russians the CIA allowed them to unload thousands of kilos of hash on pier 39 in san fransico, because the mujahadeen didn't have money, our Congress would not allow them to be funded that way, but the mujahadeen did have hash, so again to go around Congress,  the CIA distributes these drugs in the US, funeling the profits to rebel armies.)

ALL the organizations keeping drugs illegal (the DEA, the CIA, the FBI, etc...) are bennifiting from these drugs prohibition....

I encourage people to distribute as much LSD and psilocin as they can, these compounds are more valuable to human kind to most even realize....and to see LSD distributors get busted bothers me greatly....
























Persecution of LSD is absurd....specially when the CIA and DEA are known herion/cocaine dealers...

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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21840913 - 06/22/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
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Toe_Jam said:
Possession with intent to manufacture?

What the fuck does that mean?





I was wondering the  same thing.  Maybe they were putting it on to blotters.




It may mean they had some lysergic acid and methylamine with some pocl3 laying around....but I doubt it, which is absurd as well because unless your reacting lysergic acid with methylamine, then your not manufacturing LSD.

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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21841042 - 06/22/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
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Toe_Jam said:
Possession with intent to manufacture?

What the fuck does that mean?





I was wondering the  same thing.  Maybe they were putting it on to blotters.



I'd say so. Note the entire charge is named "possession with intent to manufacture, sell and deliver a schedule I controlled substance".

In the 90s I knew a few guys busted for manufacturing LSD when they were just laying down a few blotters. They got hit by some nasty mandatory minimums because of their previous criminal history too. Was just writing about them the other day in a different thread.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21841526 - 06/22/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you do the research it seems this game goes much MUCH further than just the US.  Check out Roberto Calvi and the Banco Ambrosiano along with the so called "Ghost Banks".  Governments around the world are in on this and have been for years.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21841907 - 06/22/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
We need MORE LSD, psilocin, and DMT distubution. Civil disobedience for unjust drug laws.




I don't know about that - smart people stay away from drug distribution.  Why set yourself up for felony arrests?  The profits don't make it worthwhile, and neither do the effects of the drugs.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21841963 - 06/22/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Damn you and your reasoning ability Alan.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21842549 - 06/22/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
We need MORE LSD, psilocin, and DMT distubution. Civil disobedience for unjust drug laws.




I don't know about that - smart people stay away from drug distribution.  Why set yourself up for felony arrests?  The profits don't make it worthwhile, and neither do the effects of the drugs.



But if nobody distributed nobody would have drugs. I guess it's a lose lose situation:shrug:


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Ihateyou]
    #21842747 - 06/22/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ihateyou said:
But if nobody distributed nobody would have drugs. I guess it's a lose lose situation:shrug:





There will always be people willing to take great risks for small amounts of money.

Homeless people, and people who love the thrill of taking risks.  And nerdy people who like having tons of cool friends stopping by all the time.  (that was me in high school)




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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21842801 - 06/22/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would never do it for the attention. I don't see why anyone would. Good thing you're not doing that anymore. That's the easiest way to get caught.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Ihateyou]
    #21842889 - 06/22/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

280 hits is a huge deal :awesketch: fuckkkk that


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Ihateyou]
    #21842929 - 06/22/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What constitutes a manufacturing charge depends on how a state defines the charge. For instance, Tennessee breaks manufacturing and distribution into two separate charges. Manufacturing charges cover the actual manufacture and production of a controlled substance, while distribution charges are more concerned with the movement or delivery of a controlled substance. Texas, on the other hand, lumps the two charges together under the title of manufacture or delivery of a controlled substance.



http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/drug_crimes/manufacturing-charges.htm
This could be the reason they were charged with manufacturing. If someone were wrongly charged with manufacturing like this, I think you should be able to fight that your 8th amendment right is being violated.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: LoveNaborFuckHater]
    #21843735 - 06/22/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe they had liquid, and the police thought they would be dropping the liquid on to sugar cubes or candies, which they would consider manufacturing.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21845052 - 06/23/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:

Coincidentiaoppositorum said:
We need MORE LSD, psilocin, and DMT distubution. Civil disobedience for unjust drug laws.




I don't know about that - smart people stay away from drug distribution.  Why set yourself up for felony arrests?  The profits don't make it worthwhile, and neither do the effects of the drugs.




I'm actually against classical "drug dealing", I think its exploitation of addicts, and if the compounds you push are dangerous or addictive I have limited sympathy for you.

I don't distribute drugs (though I give psychedelics away fairly often) and I have mixed feelings about it....(though I think the world would be a better place if more people were using psychedelics)
....but as someone pointed out before, if nobody was distributing psychedelics, they would never reach most people.


If we could have another nick sand, Tim scully, or owsley Stanley it would be amazing.

(Say what you want about William Leonard pickard and Clyde apperson, at least they were distributing on an international scale...)


Manufacture of LSD really isn't that hard, there are hazzards, but if your not skilled enough to deal with them then you shouldn't even attempt a synthesis....I just wish more people with talent would move into clandestine LSD production....precursors can be grown in your garden without suspician (you can even by kilos of untreated seeds on the cheap online, but your leaving a paper trail, best to go to homedepot pick up the ipomea tricolor (or violecea) morning glory seeds, plant them them reap the harvest at the end of the season, then its a quick extraction of the lysergic acid amide, conversion of the amide into lysergic acid, then reacting the lysergic acid with diethylamine (there are many ways to do this, each involves different reagents, produces different yeilds and different ratios of LSD to iso-LSD, which can be seperated, the iso-lsd can then be converted into LSD, though most chemist just leave the iso-lsd in, its not supposed to make a big difference....

One chemist in a single weekend can produce enough LSD to dose every American twice....


1gram = 10,000 100ug doses (realistically you get around 6,000-7,500 good doses out of 1g)

Even the smallest technical workups end in yeilds of 3-7g crystalline LSD.
There should be abosolutley no reason why LSD isn't cheap and available, and while in general I'm agaisnt drug dealing, I'm all for the public having access to these beautiful compounds (psychedelics) and unfortunately because of the laws in place regarding these compounds, the chemists and distributors are taking GREAT risk, so of coarse they are going to want compensation.......here's the thing though, most psychedelic chemists really believe in what they are doing, Casey hardison is a perfect example
Psilocin is great, but its hard to produce enough of it to reach any large numbers of people.....


....I think I'm getting way off topic though

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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21845245 - 06/23/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That charge means they intended to do at least 1 of those things in the manufacture, delivery ect ect of a CS.


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Re: 2 charged for trafficking LSD [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21845249 - 06/23/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So a person who literally synthesizes LSD would be given the same charge? (Given that they are in the same state/area.)

Cause I feel like a person who literally manufactures LSD would get a much worse charge.

W/e, I mean, the laws don't make much sense anyway. They're putting people in prison for LSD.

I mean... Comon.


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