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Bitter Cactus
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Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people?
#21839194 - 06/21/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seriously. Every time I check the threads in the Pub there are at least five cop killing threads on the front page.
We get it, cops kill people. Most of the time when you actually find out the entire story, the person killed is usually at fault and there are no charges for the cop because he did the right thing. There are really very few cases where cops are convicted of murder so honestly most of the time they are doing a really good job.
Listen guys, we all are obsessed with finding the perfect bad cop story to make them seem like evil villains. Honestly though it just seems like people have their blinders on and only read parts of the story they want to hear and block out all the parts where the cops were doing their jobs and defending themselves. I have seen people here wish death upon the police for doing their jobs. I have seen people say that cops should only defend themselves if they have actually been shot or shot at. Honestly that attitude is toxic and not helping solve any problems.
Please, can we have more balanced discussions about cops? There are good and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people. For the most part, they are all good people doing the job that I can even admit I would be too afraid to do. They risk their lives and put everything on the line only for people to shit on them and show them no respect. They are people too, you guys need to stop treating them like animals. We need to have an honest discussion about cops and why people here seem so butthurt about them.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839210 - 06/21/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Seriously. Every time I check the threads in the Pub there are at least five cop killing threads on the front page.
We get it, cops kill people. Most of the time when you actually find out the entire story, the person killed is usually at fault and there are no charges for the cop because he did the right thing. There are really very few cases where cops are convicted of murder so honestly most of the time they are doing a really good job.
Listen guys, we all are obsessed with finding the perfect bad cop story to make them seem like evil villains. Honestly though it just seems like people have their blinders on and only read parts of the story they want to hear and block out all the parts where the cops were doing their jobs and defending themselves. I have seen people here wish death upon the police for doing their jobs. I have seen people say that cops should only defend themselves if they have actually been shot or shot at. Honestly that attitude is toxic and not helping solve any problems.
Please, can we have more balanced discussions about cops? There are good and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people. For the most part, they are all good people doing the job that I can even admit I would be too afraid to do. They risk their lives and put everything on the line only for people to shit on them and show them no respect. They are people too, you guys need to stop treating them like animals. We need to have an honest discussion about cops and why people here seem so butthurt about them.
You mean they won't just all go die? There are tears streaming down my face.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: imachavel]
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21839248 - 06/21/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839336 - 06/21/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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it;s just prisoner#1. he loves it when innocent black folks shed blood on the streets
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: lovesquare]
#21839356 - 06/21/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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People kill people, I don't care if you have a fancy costume and a badge, it doesn't make it right. Do you relise how many non lethal weapons are out there? The cops have a fucking arsenal to choose from and wear body armour. Also keep in mind that when they kill people they go on paid leave. Don't you think other cops cover the ass of the pussy with a
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: lovesquare]
#21839439 - 06/21/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The cops killing people is a reality and pubsters are real people, so a cop can kill a shroomerite today if he wants to do because the struggle is real.
I find it fucking hilarious after a cop gets murdered because the officers family will suffer the same wounds from the bloody sword that stabbed many ghetto families. Man, I personally knew 2 people killed by oakland police and its not even that they were bad people , they were just breaking the law, just not laws that justified murder.
I remember a few years ago hearing about some teenager showing up to a funeral with a shot gun and getting shot by police who were already at the scene.. I don't know why but the picture in my imagination makes me laugh because something about a funeral makes it a funny place to die.
Cops shooting people annoys me.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839448 - 06/21/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because the shroomery hates copscause COPS ARE MURDERS THAT GET NO SERIOUS PUNISHMENT.
FUCK THE POLICE. POLICE MUST DIE.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
#21839458 - 06/21/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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if its any sign of anything death by cop seems to be rising.. and this is shit that needs to be in everybody's attention
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: rackem]
#21839465 - 06/21/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You went and opened a can of worms here OP
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akira_akuma
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: nuds]
#21839469 - 06/21/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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great distraction thread OP.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 2
#21839470 - 06/21/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's just the "culture" here. Cop killings, racism, transsexualism, selfies, and funnies are what plays in The Pub.
Sometimes people just make poor life choices that lead them into eternal circular debate with pris, qman, blind sophist, or, god forbid, akira_akuma. It just happens.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21839488 - 06/21/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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burke dennings should know. that dude picks on members who have obvious mental illnesses
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21839499 - 06/21/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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poor life choices that lead them into eternal circular debate
bwahaha spot on.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21839505 - 06/21/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not sure that your learning disabilities qualify as "mental illnesses" there, Corky. But no, I don't.
Also, you're using your butthurt to drive this thread off topic. Give it a rest.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21839513 - 06/21/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i wonder if the pub could ever be about having discussions.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21839518 - 06/21/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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i dont fight for me. i fight for those who cant fight for themselves
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21839521 - 06/21/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see a ' cop killed somebody ' thread just about everytime I browse the pub these days
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Soulidarity]
#21839531 - 06/21/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pretty much the only thing that can save the pub now is Trent anus.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21839536 - 06/21/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said:
FUCK THE POLICE. POLICE MUST DIE.
Be careful with that kind of rhetoric, the shroomery could get subpoena'd for your information
Case in point:
http://www.wired.com/2015/06/feds-want-id-web-trolls-threatened-silk-road-judge/
http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/19/government-stifles-speech
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: chopstick]
#21839540 - 06/21/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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relax bro, it;s just a song
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Soulidarity]
#21839541 - 06/21/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Soulidarity said: I see a ' cop killed somebody ' thread just about everytime I browse the pub these days
It didn't used to be like this. Cops have been killing people for ages. But it's only just now that people are realizing it's a problem. The issue of police brutality has entered the national collective consciousness.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: chopstick]
#21839546 - 06/21/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea pretty much.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21839590 - 06/21/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Regardless, it's nice for people to be aware. Sticking your head in the sand doesn't solve the problem, neither does arguing about it on a psychedelic drug forum. If I wanted to see police brutality news, I'd go to the shroomery news section. It'd be cool to see the pub with a couple more quality threads though instead of the usual police drivel
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: nuds]
#21839612 - 06/21/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If u want to see brutality news go to liveleaks, if u want lies go to shroomery news section
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21839620 - 06/21/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Seriously. Every time I check the threads in the Pub there are at least five cop killing threads on the front page.
We get it, cops kill people. Most of the time when you actually find out the entire story, the person killed is usually at fault and there are no charges for the cop because he did the right thing. There are really very few cases where cops are convicted of murder so honestly most of the time they are doing a really good job.
Listen guys, we all are obsessed with finding the perfect bad cop story to make them seem like evil villains. Honestly though it just seems like people have their blinders on and only read parts of the story they want to hear and block out all the parts where the cops were doing their jobs and defending themselves. I have seen people here wish death upon the police for doing their jobs. I have seen people say that cops should only defend themselves if they have actually been shot or shot at. Honestly that attitude is toxic and not helping solve any problems.
Please, can we have more balanced discussions about cops? There are good and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people. For the most part, they are all good people doing the job that I can even admit I would be too afraid to do. They risk their lives and put everything on the line only for people to shit on them and show them no respect. They are people too, you guys need to stop treating them like animals. We need to have an honest discussion about cops and why people here seem so butthurt about them.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21839634 - 06/21/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's all the same
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: nuds]
#21839641 - 06/21/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21839648 - 06/21/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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GEE I DONT KNOW. Perhaps it has something to do with American police killing more and more and more unarmed and innocent people every year. 50x or more the rate of other developed first world nations.
Anyone who thinks cops killed this many people before.. but it's just now becoming news so people are paying attention to it.. give me some of that crack you are smoking. The rise in cops killing people has skyrocketed in the last 10-15 years.
You're in Canada. So your opinions about our police is moot.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839662 - 06/21/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839663 - 06/21/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're in Canada. So your opinions about our police is moot.
not really, but i can see why you would say that.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839681 - 06/21/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are exempt from that
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839689 - 06/21/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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k, cool, just sayin' broo. we have eyes to see the ridiculously inept police stratagem of "hey i was just doing my duty to defend myself" excuses over here, too, but we of course harbor BitterCactus here so... so it goes about half and half, like Tim Hortons.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21839690 - 06/21/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zZZz said: it;s just prisoner#1. he loves it when innocent black folks shed blood on the streets
what innocent black folks are shedding blood on the streets?
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21839694 - 06/21/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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poor choice of words by ZZZZ again.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839702 - 06/21/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: GEE I DONT KNOW. Perhaps it has something to do with American police killing more and more and more unarmed and innocent people every year. 50x or more the rate of other developed first world nations.
Anyone who thinks cops killed this many people before.. but it's just now becoming news so people are paying attention to it.. give me some of that crack you are smoking. The rise in cops killing people has skyrocketed in the last 10-15 years.
You're in Canada. So your opinions about our police is moot.
maybe you should show us the actually statistics for the last 30 years or so
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Shroomism said: GEE I DONT KNOW. Perhaps it has something to do with American police killing more and more and more unarmed and innocent people every year. 50x or more the rate of other developed first world nations.
Anyone who thinks cops killed this many people before.. but it's just now becoming news so people are paying attention to it.. give me some of that crack you are smoking. The rise in cops killing people has skyrocketed in the last 10-15 years.
You're in Canada. So your opinions about our police is moot.
maybe you should show us the actually statistics for the last 30 years or so
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Shroomism said: GEE I DONT KNOW. Perhaps it has something to do with American police killing more and more and more unarmed and innocent people every year. 50x or more the rate of other developed first world nations.
Anyone who thinks cops killed this many people before.. but it's just now becoming news so people are paying attention to it.. give me some of that crack you are smoking. The rise in cops killing people has skyrocketed in the last 10-15 years.
You're in Canada. So your opinions about our police is moot.
maybe you should show us the actually statistics for the last 30 years or so

Not many of the police are convicted of murder though. The vast majority of the time these killings happen because cops are defending themselves and have no other choice. They are not just gonna lay down and die.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#21839730 - 06/21/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Uk just hides it very we'll but u can bet ur ass they are beheading peeps behind ur backs
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
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Uk just hides it very we'll but u can bet ur ass they are beheading peeps behind ur backs
I don't believe those England stats for a second by the way.
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Not many of the police are convicted of murder though. The vast majority of the time these killings happen because cops are defending themselves and have no other choice. They are not just gonna lay down and die.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839742 - 06/21/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They are just as corrupt, if not more so, than the USA gov, believe or not
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21839750 - 06/21/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zZZz said: They are just as corrupt, if not more so, than the USA gov, believe or not
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#21839756 - 06/21/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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USA is a just a product of uk
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21839758 - 06/21/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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maybe you should show us the actually statistics for the last 30 years or so
Why, you don't know how to internet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States http://killedbypolice.net/
1943 - 2009 ~211 people killed
2012 - 602 2013 - 770 2014 - 1104 2015 - 525, so far.
The early numbers are likely not 100% accurate but that's going from what we know for fact.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839776 - 06/21/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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He knows bro, but he just doesn't want admit it cuz he wants to get the most arguments out of people. In other words, he's just here to bait.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839802 - 06/21/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not many of the police are convicted of murder though. The vast majority of the time these killings happen because cops are defending themselves and have no other choice. They are not just gonna lay down and die.

You are delusional.
You want to tell me those cops were all defending themselves and had no other choice?
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839829 - 06/21/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Uk just hides it very we'll but u can bet ur ass they are beheading peeps behind ur backs
I don't believe those England stats for a second by the way.
They are probably accurate, but skewed to make the US look worse than it is in comparison. Note it says England and Wales. However:
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The United Kingdom is made up of four constituent countries: England, Scotland, Wales (which make up Great Britain) and Northern Ireland. In Northern Ireland, all police officers carry firearms. In the rest of the United Kingdom, police officers do not carry firearms, except in special circumstances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom
Might be difficult to have "fatal shootings" in the part of the UK that officers specifically do not carry guns unless under special circumstances.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Tantrika]
#21839841 - 06/21/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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they have them in other countries, and they mostly take u down when u're sleeping. they;re some sneaky little critters
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839879 - 06/21/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not many of the police are convicted of murder though. The vast majority of the time these killings happen because cops are defending themselves and have no other choice. They are not just gonna lay down and die.

You are delusional.
You want to tell me those cops were all defending themselves and had no other choice?
Do you really have a folder that contains cop killing videos saved for threads like these? Are you that obsessed with cops? Holy hell man.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839883 - 06/21/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nope I just search and pull them up, that took me about 30 seconds. I've seen them all already so I don't need to re-watch them to know what they contain.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839920 - 06/21/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Listen man, if the courts decide that these cases are murder and not self defense, then I absolutely agree these cops should go to jail.
Based on what I know about this whole topic, there are not that many cops that actually are convicted of murder. Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you want reform you should be looking to change the laws of what you consider to be murder, not getting mad at cops.
I don't have the time to scan through endless videos of cop encounters with people, it simply is not something I am obsessed with. But overall I just want you to see that cops are not bad people, in these cases they are simply doing their jobs and protecting themselves so they can come home to their families. The cops that actually are convicted of murder deserve every second in jail they get, the others are doing what they need to do to stay alive. Most of these stories I read here have way more to the story then people are willing to admit because they will use any piece of evidence even if it is untrue to support their cop hate.
Let's show a bit of maturity guys and have a balanced discussion here and not just throw hate at the police.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839923 - 06/21/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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he's troll bro. u should have known that. he just brings up subjects that make eveveryone else tick
like for example, if u hate apples, mothafucker will make a thread about how much he loves apples. it's basic common troll sense.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839951 - 06/21/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Listen man, if the courts decide that these cases are murder and not self defense, then I absolutely agree these cops should go to jail.
Based on what I know about this whole topic, there are not that many cops that actually are convicted of murder. Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you want reform you should be looking to change the laws of what you consider to be murder, not getting mad at cops.
I don't have the time to scan through endless videos of cop encounters with people, it simply is not something I am obsessed with. But overall I just want you to see that cops are not bad people, in these cases they are simply doing their jobs and protecting themselves so they can come home to their families. The cops that actually are convicted of murder deserve every second in jail they get, the others are doing what they need to do to stay alive. Most of these stories I read here have way more to the story then people are willing to admit because they will use any piece of evidence even if it is untrue to support their cop hate.
Let's show a bit of maturity guys and have a balanced discussion here and not just throw hate at the police.
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Shroomism said: As for why cops are almost never indicted for killing people... here you go, educate yourself
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/12/darren_wilson_no_true_bill_why_cops_are_almost_never_indicted_for_shooting.html http://www.thenation.com/article/190937/why-its-impossible-indict-cop http://thefreethoughtproject.com/grand-juries-indict-police-officers-kill-citizens/
I don't just blindly hate all police despite what you cop boot lickers want to think. I respect cops that protect and serve the community as they are supposed to. There are good cops, and there are corrupt murdering scumfuckers. What I don't support is the murder of people who are unarmed or innocent people, or only committed a petty crime and weren't threatening the officers in any way. Which any sane person would. Cops playing judge, jury and executioner because they are too scared too actually do their job right, without going to lethal force as the first solution when their lives aren't in danger.
If you don't want to take the time to watch any of the videos I posted then perhaps you shouldn't make blind statements like most of the cops are just defending themselves and have no other choice. Every video I posted was of an unarmed person being shot and killed by police. Some of them were running away and shot in the back. Some of them committed no crime whatsoever. The cops were not in any danger in any of them, their lives were not being threatened, and in most cases they were surrounded by other cops as well. They certainly had other choices than to shoot and kill someone who posed no threat.
But.. when all you have is a hammer... every problem seems like a nail.
If more cops were indicted and charged when they killed an innocent person, this wouldn't be such a big problem. But the police protect their own and it's EXTREMELY rare that a cop is ever even charged after murdering someone. They get away with it ALL THE TIME. That's a large part of the problem. You can't just point at the fact that "cops are rarely ever charged with murder".. as evidence that they are all justified.
Some people get killed by police, and it's completely justified. Some people needed to be killed so they wouldn't kill other people. I don't have a problem with those. But more and more and more frequently, cops are killing people when it is not justified at all. And they usually get away with it. That's why people are "obsessed".
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21839970 - 06/21/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Listen man, if the courts decide that these cases are murder and not self defense, then I absolutely agree these cops should go to jail.
so basically, "i have no opinion".
ok, then. shhh.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840031 - 06/21/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The reason is because it is the new liberal agenda. They want to nationalize the police force, so we can have a true police state.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: starfire_xes]
#21840041 - 06/21/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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just like gun control right? funny that agenda didn't really happen. it was a reaction, just like everything else.
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They want to nationalize the police force, so we can have a true police state.
explain. you're saying that people who want to stop police shootings, are trying to perpetrate a police state, by being duped, and nationalizing the police force. what does nationalizing the police force even serve the purpose of? what does that do? please explain.
and please, tell us how we're en route to getting to a police state because of people wanting to reduce police shootings, and then tell us how that leads to nationalization.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840068 - 06/22/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Seriously. Every time I check the threads in the Pub there are at least five cop killing threads on the front page.
We get it, cops kill people. Most of the time when you actually find out the entire story, the person killed is usually at fault and there are no charges for the cop because he did the right thing. There are really very few cases where cops are convicted of murder so honestly most of the time they are doing a really good job.
Listen guys, we all are obsessed with finding the perfect bad cop story to make them seem like evil villains. Honestly though it just seems like people have their blinders on and only read parts of the story they want to hear and block out all the parts where the cops were doing their jobs and defending themselves. I have seen people here wish death upon the police for doing their jobs. I have seen people say that cops should only defend themselves if they have actually been shot or shot at. Honestly that attitude is toxic and not helping solve any problems.
Please, can we have more balanced discussions about cops? There are good and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people. For the most part, they are all good people doing the job that I can even admit I would be too afraid to do. They risk their lives and put everything on the line only for people to shit on them and show them no respect. They are people too, you guys need to stop treating them like animals. We need to have an honest discussion about cops and why people here seem so butthurt about them.
Pub folk are still going through their rebellious anti-authoritarian teens in their twenties and thirties. I've hope they will snap out of it.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840168 - 06/22/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Seriously. Every time I check the threads in the Pub there are at least five cop killing threads on the front page.
We get it, cops kill people. Most of the time when you actually find out the entire story, the person killed is usually at fault and there are no charges for the cop because he did the right thing. There are really very few cases where cops are convicted of murder so honestly most of the time they are doing a really good job.
Listen guys, we all are obsessed with finding the perfect bad cop story to make them seem like evil villains. Honestly though it just seems like people have their blinders on and only read parts of the story they want to hear and block out all the parts where the cops were doing their jobs and defending themselves. I have seen people here wish death upon the police for doing their jobs. I have seen people say that cops should only defend themselves if they have actually been shot or shot at. Honestly that attitude is toxic and not helping solve any problems.
Please, can we have more balanced discussions about cops? There are good and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people. For the most part, they are all good people doing the job that I can even admit I would be too afraid to do. They risk their lives and put everything on the line only for people to shit on them and show them no respect. They are people too, you guys need to stop treating them like animals. We need to have an honest discussion about cops and why people here seem so butthurt about them.
Pub folk are still going through their rebellious anti-authoritarian teens in their twenties and thirties. I've hope they will snap out of it.
It really does show a lack of maturity.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840170 - 06/22/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pub folk are still going through their rebellious anti-authoritarian teens in their twenties and thirties. I've hope they will snap out of it.
you're going through your dumbfounded uninformed phase at 50. sucks to have no original thoughts.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840175 - 06/22/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Case in point right there, huh Bitter Cactus?
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840178 - 06/22/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you're being trite. very immature.
this has nothing to do with anti-authoritarianism, and everything to do with cops overstepping their bounds and people like you parading that about as if it's a good thing. you need to check your own immaturity and your brains.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840256 - 06/22/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nationalizing the police force centralizes the government even further, and takes power out of the hands of the states. Just witness the lawsuits by the O administration attacking state laws.
And states rights are where the democracy is in a Republic.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: starfire_xes]
#21840266 - 06/22/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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u guys if u guys keep responding op will succeed, yet again, in being a troll. dont encourage the troll.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: starfire_xes]
#21840267 - 06/22/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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but how does trivializing a cop's poor performance on the job lead to that?
if the case is that we need cop's to pompously perpetuate that whatever they can conceive of is right and true and everyone else is wrong, than we should all be police then.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21840268 - 06/22/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zZZz said: u guys if u guys keep responding op will succeed, yet again, in being a troll. dont encourage the troll.
i don't think anyone is really listening or adhering to anything goophead says.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21840278 - 06/22/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zZZz said: u guys if u guys keep responding op will succeed, yet again, in being a troll. dont encourage the troll.
Bitter Cactus isn't a troll.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840282 - 06/22/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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d.m.t and bitter cactus are trolls
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21840289 - 06/22/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zZZz said: d.m.t and bitter cactus are trolls
Bitter Cactus isn't a troll.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840292 - 06/22/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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zZZz said: d.m.t and bitter cactus are trolls
Bitter Cactus isn't a troll.
confirmed troll is confirmed.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840300 - 06/22/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once again.. Bitter Cactus isn't a troll. Not everyone has to love marijuana and hate police like you dude.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840303 - 06/22/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey i don't either. i like police whom are not pigs, and i am indifferent about Marijuana. sorry to burst your bubble.
PS: i'e already said that he wasn't a troll (sadly), earlier in this thread. so try again but harder this time.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840305 - 06/22/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea he's troll. he admitted it in another thread
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21840306 - 06/22/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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he troll's but that doesn't make him "a troll". he does troll though. because he's given the leeway to because we can't just smash him into oblivion... we'd upset the coalition he serves for, and they'd all rebel against him being destroyed because they wouldn't have his services anymore.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840309 - 06/22/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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a troll is a troll is a troll
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840310 - 06/22/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If what he says hasn't broken any rules it isn't trolling. I think it was ridiculous Shroomism closed his anti-marijuana threads. That's some straight butthurt shit right there and had nothing to do with being trolled.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840314 - 06/22/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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now ur just butthurt about shroomism and trying to start shit.
what are u, 15?..
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21840320 - 06/22/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know you are, but what am I?
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#21840324 - 06/22/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: If what he says hasn't broken any rules it isn't trolling. I think it was ridiculous Shroomism closed his anti-marijuana threads. That's some straight butthurt shit right there and had nothing to do with being trolled.
no it did. he was spamming the forum with it. spamming is a bannable offence.
and you don't have to break the rules to troll, wtf are you talking about... not being a troll IS A RULE, in and of itself, genius.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
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And he isn't breaking the troll rule now is he? Saying things you don't like isn't trolling.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840334 - 06/22/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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why i am not a pub mod yet is beyond me. i catch trolls like a fucken whore catches aids
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840338 - 06/22/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: And he isn't breaking the troll rule now is he? Saying things you don't like isn't trolling.
it's hard to discern, but like i said, he isn't a troll. i said it, you said it, now lets focus on what else was said... he spammed the board with his anti-marijuana threads, so that's why Shroomism "got him".
AND good-riddance.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840343 - 06/22/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's more anti-cop threads spammed on here than anti-weed threads were by Bitter Cactus, but we all know the aforementioned mod's stance on that.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840348 - 06/22/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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d.m.t is the real troll here
that dudes got like nothing to contribute
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840362 - 06/22/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: There's more anti-cop threads spammed on here than anti-weed threads were by Bitter Cactus, but we all know the aforementioned mod's stance on that.
well, i ain't going to defend anything about these thread's, they are an abomination. but it's not one single member spamming them here, it's several people post their own individual threads, which ISN'T THEM spamming. you can't lump everyone in to one troll. you can however make rules about stupid threads like these being left for the Politics forum, though.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21840376 - 06/22/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think cops in general are hard workers and leaders in the community. I think they are people we should look up to and in most cases they are great people that are not just cops but fathers, sons, coaches, brothers, sisters. There is a heart behind every badge.
I think the way people make them out to be in their minds are these evil, blood thirsty killing machines. In reality these are the people that are there to protect you and putting their lives on the line every day to do a job you could not do. In return for everything they do people absolutely shit on them and treat them like animals.
I just want to have a mature discussion on this topic. I really think that police are doing the best they can at their jobs and they have the right to defend themselves like anyone else. Like I said every cop that is convicted of murder should go to jail and receive appropriate punishment, just like anyone else. Should there be changes to the laws to hold the police more accountable for using their weapons at inappropriate times? Perhaps. But let's end the name calling and cop bashing please. It is getting a little out of hand in the Pub.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840381 - 06/22/15 01:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea wuteva no one cares
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: zZZz]
#21840386 - 06/22/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Really insightful response.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840388 - 06/22/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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if they're gonna put their life's on the line, get some proper training for what situation's are out there, instead of a one on one meeting with death for every occasion.
PS: and that's some cops, not all.
the cops that are doing their job, i don't give a fuck about. i do however give a fuck about people righting injustices and stopping criminality... that's doesn't mean i think arresting pot smokers, should take precedence over prostitutes either, because both are stupid and non-crimes.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840390 - 06/22/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They enforce the laws bud they don't make them.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21840391 - 06/22/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: RIP Sonny Kim
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/06/19/officer-down-madisonville/28974101/
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^ lol BRRRRRR wrong.
PS: thanks for the attempt at tear-soaked votes on when police are upstanding good people. appeal to emotion. gotta love it.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Really insightful response.
thanks i try
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840394 - 06/22/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: They enforce the laws bud they don't make them.
and the one's who know the difference between a just and unjust or just plain damaging law, will stand up in defiance, as many have.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840396 - 06/22/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Seriously. Every time I check the threads in the Pub there are at least five cop killing threads on the front page.
We get it, cops kill people. Most of the time when you actually find out the entire story, the person killed is usually at fault and there are no charges for the cop because he did the right thing. There are really very few cases where cops are convicted of murder so honestly most of the time they are doing a really good job.
Listen guys, we all are obsessed with finding the perfect bad cop story to make them seem like evil villains. Honestly though it just seems like people have their blinders on and only read parts of the story they want to hear and block out all the parts where the cops were doing their jobs and defending themselves. I have seen people here wish death upon the police for doing their jobs. I have seen people say that cops should only defend themselves if they have actually been shot or shot at. Honestly that attitude is toxic and not helping solve any problems.
Please, can we have more balanced discussions about cops? There are good and bad cops, just like there are good and bad people. For the most part, they are all good people doing the job that I can even admit I would be too afraid to do. They risk their lives and put everything on the line only for people to shit on them and show them no respect. They are people too, you guys need to stop treating them like animals. We need to have an honest discussion about cops and why people here seem so butthurt about them.
Pub folk are still going through their rebellious anti-authoritarian teens in their twenties and thirties. I've hope they will snap out of it.
It really does show a lack of maturity.
How does wanting to talk about something show a lack of maturity?
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Bitter Cactus said: They enforce the laws bud they don't make them.
and the one's who know the difference between a just and unjust or just plain damaging law, will stand up in defiance, as many have.
If you are a cop you have to arrest people breaking the law. You can't just stop arresting drug dealers and ladies selling their ass because you don't agree with the law. That is not how it works dude.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840399 - 06/22/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: RIP Sonny Kim
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/06/19/officer-down-madisonville/28974101/
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^ lol BRRRRRR wrong.
That's unfortunate. It's the story MSNBC doesn't want to pick up. A few days ago a guy committed suicide by cop and took an officer with him.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840401 - 06/22/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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but they do however. they make groups for just such an opposition, and i'm sure they tend to avoid giving out trouble to those whom are doing no actual harm to anyone.
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D.M.T said: That's unfortunate. It's the story MSNBC doesn't want to pick up. A few days ago a guy committed suicide by cop and took an officer with him.
well, that kid was way in over his head. obviously that's a harrowing story for the cop who died.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21840463 - 06/22/15 02:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Speaking of Brutality.....
The real question we need answers to is: why are there not more Ronnie Dobbs references in these cop threads?
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Achuma]
#21840469 - 06/22/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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"i didn't do nothin!"
Ronnie Dobbs FTW.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840485 - 06/22/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Seriously. Every time I check the threads in the Pub there are at least five cop killing threads on the front page.
We get it, cops kill people. Most of the time when you actually find out the entire story, the person killed is usually at fault and there are no charges for the cop because he did the right thing. There are really very few cases where cops are convicted of murder so honestly most of the time they are doing a really good job.
You do understand they have the best lawyers right? Cop unions are very powerful. Guilty cops are almost never convicted of anything, at least in North America. Even when it's on tape, its almost unheard of. A lack of convictions doesnt mean a job well done though, it's a failure of the justice system. How can a person who was shot be "at fault"? They are shooting people in the back it's not exactly a case of "him or me" here. It's one thing to shoot a threat, but this shooting people they didn't obey their master's order is insane. Where I live people tell them to fuck off all the time. You might get beat up but saying "no" to a cops orders here won't leave you with 10 bullets in your head. Most of the time anyway.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: my3rdeye]
#21840499 - 06/22/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I do live in Canada and I genuinely like cops. They have always done me good and I have been in trouble with the law before.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21840509 - 06/22/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: I do live in Canada and I genuinely like cops. They have always done me good and I have been in trouble with the law before.
Your personal experience is not exactly relevant. You can count the cops in Canada who have been convicted of brutality in the last ten years on one hand. I have not been roughed up either but just because I am polite does not give them the right to beat up loud mouth drunken douch bags either, which they do every night.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: HatingMeIsEasier]
#21841055 - 06/22/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: GEE I DONT KNOW. Perhaps it has something to do with American police killing more and more and more unarmed and innocent people every year. 50x or more the rate of other developed first world nations.
Anyone who thinks cops killed this many people before.. but it's just now becoming news so people are paying attention to it.. give me some of that crack you are smoking. The rise in cops killing people has skyrocketed in the last 10-15 years.
You're in Canada. So your opinions about our police is moot.
maybe you should show us the actually statistics for the last 30 years or so

that's no a statistic, it certanly doesnt show the historical figures such as there were 200 police shootings in 2000, 220 shootings in 2004, and to illustrate the 'skyrocketing' of police shooting we need to see it on a sharp increase such as moving from the 200s into the 400s and then to 800s
that's merely an illustration that shows us that police sometimes shoot people
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Bitter Cactus said: They enforce the laws bud they don't make them.
and the one's who know the difference between a just and unjust or just plain damaging law, will stand up in defiance, as many have.
If you are a cop you have to arrest people breaking the law. You can't just stop arresting drug dealers and ladies selling their ass because you don't agree with the law. That is not how it works dude.
actually they can. cops cut offenders loose all the time for drugs and prostitution, most cops see it as we do, it shouldnt be a crime if the only person harmed is the so called criminal and they opt not to try to pressure people into a search or arrest them for drugs found during a patdown. that attitude can change based on your own
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21841073 - 06/22/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: RIP Sonny Kim
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/06/19/officer-down-madisonville/28974101/
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^ lol BRRRRRR wrong.
That's unfortunate. It's the story MSNBC doesn't want to pick up. A few days ago a guy committed suicide by cop and took an officer with him.
it must only hapen to canadians because I got a different pane that popped up, I simply clicked the "X" in the top left corner and it allowed me to read the rest. maybe akira isnt familiar with these sorts of 'exploits' to read these articles. it seems canada lacks in a lot of areas
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21841100 - 06/22/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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all the cop threads are dumb as fuck
how is someone doing their job noteworthy?
its like writing an article about how a janitor had to clean a shit filled toilet. he was doing his job
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Shroomism]
#21841105 - 06/22/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: As for why cops are almost never indicted for killing people... here you go, educate yourself
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/12/darren_wilson_no_true_bill_why_cops_are_almost_never_indicted_for_shooting.html http://www.thenation.com/article/190937/why-its-impossible-indict-cop http://thefreethoughtproject.com/grand-juries-indict-police-officers-kill-citizens/
shroomism, buddy... there's some things you need to learn
a grandjury hands down indictments, most of these things never go before a grand jury because they are deemed self defense by the investigators, when the investigators see that they are not self defense they still do not go in front of a grand jury because they have enough evidence to move forward with a prosecution. it is when the investigation remains questionable that it goes before a grandjury (and in the instances that the state has set rules that charges of certain natures will always got to the grandjury). a grand jury only looks at the evidence to see if there is enough evidence to procede with a prosecution, in the case of daren wilson, it was determined that he acted in self defense and they would not indict him for a non crime
now, if a grand jury hands down an indictment then it goes to trial where it will be viewed by a trial jury and they will determine guilt or innocence based on a preponderance of evidence and testimony. I know these are difficult principals to understand since they have been explained many times and you still dont seem to grasp these concepts because you still cling to this grandjury thing
in summation, what you've cited is nothing more than retards misinforming people to make sure they are just as retarded as the biased retards at salaon, the nation and free thought project
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Bassfreak]
#21841114 - 06/22/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: all the cop threads are dumb as fuck
how is someone doing their job noteworthy?
its like writing an article about how a janitor had to clean a shit filled toilet. he was doing his job
how is George Zimmerman taking a shit newsworthy
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21841121 - 06/22/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It isn't. I take more impressive shits on the daily.
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: D.M.T]
#21841144 - 06/22/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21841159 - 06/22/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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cops are supposed to de-escalate a situation. now they escalate them drastically and then write their own police reports at the end of the day. of course the cops look good on paper. look who writes down the history for cops.... cops...
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Re: Why does the Pub seem so obsessed with cops killing people? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
#21841170 - 06/22/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trichome_Delta9 said: cops are supposed to de-escalate a situation. now they escalate them drastically and then write their own police reports at the end of the day. of course the cops look good on paper.
wanna show us the handbook on that. I've also heard that when you ask an undercover cop if he's a cop he has to tell the truth because you know... the urban legend said so
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oh, so the media never reports on cops. good to know
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Trichome_Delta9 said: cops are supposed to de-escalate a situation. now they escalate them drastically and then write their own police reports at the end of the day. of course the cops look good on paper.
wanna show us the handbook on that. I've also heard that when you ask an undercover cop if he's a cop he has to tell the truth because you know... the urban legend said so
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look who writes down the history for cops.... cops...
oh, so the media never reports on cops. good to know
Someone watched "due date" recently.
do you really think cops don't write POLICE REPORTS..?
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