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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21839519 - 06/21/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

we'll take em. we don't care about nothing but Habitant soup.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839538 - 06/21/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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no predilection towards violence doesn't mean shit.

you can be completely calm and compelled to do no wrong, and then be tackled by many brutish idiot's at once. makes no difference.




See, this is the kind of sentiment that concerns me.
Have never felt this sort of concern in Canada -- any occasions that have involved me encountering police they were always courteous and respectful while talking to me.
Have never had an officer lay a finger on me or pull any weapons.



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Behave like a civilized person and 99.99% of the time you won't have any issues with the police.

You're greatest concern should be avoiding the areas where the criminal thugs live, not cops.




Have family that lives down south, but am told they live in a relatively good area so that is less concerning.
Guess it would just be in my best interest to make a few week trip down and get a good feel for things, perhaps that would assuage my concerns.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21839570 - 06/21/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What's your point OP? 

Why did you forget to mention that we have a whole cultures of criminal thugs that are armed with guns themselves.



when something is broke, you fix it.




Like deport the criminal cultures, problem solved.




To where?  I think most crimes in America are committed by native US citizens.  Does this have racist implications?

What about the police?  Where can we deport their criminal culture to?  Will you take them Canada?




"To where?"  Their native homelands.

"Does this have racist implications?"  It might.

"What about the police?"  Get rid of the criminal cultures and we have much less need tor the police, a win win!!


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: qman]
    #21839577 - 06/21/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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See, this is the kind of sentiment that concerns me.
Have never felt this sort of concern in Canada -- any occasions that have involved me encountering police they were always courteous and respectful while talking to me.
Have never had an officer lay a finger on me or pull any weapons.




in Canada it isn't as purveyed on the news, and it just simply doesn't happen as often. it still does though. take that Toronto bus shooting for example.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839660 - 06/21/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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See, this is the kind of sentiment that concerns me.
Have never felt this sort of concern in Canada -- any occasions that have involved me encountering police they were always courteous and respectful while talking to me.
Have never had an officer lay a finger on me or pull any weapons.




in Canada it isn't as purveyed on the news, and it just simply doesn't happen as often. it still does though. take that Toronto bus shooting for example.




Had to actually google that one,
Did you mean this?
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/22/police-shootings-inquest-jury-to-see-video-of-mentally-ill-man-pulling-knife-on-ttc-bus
or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sammy_Yatim

First one is cop with murder charges after shooting a man with a knife.
The drama around it seems to be that he was mentally ill rather than unarmed or non-violent though, so maybe the story you are referring to is something else?

Edit: second one seems to be the problem story.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #21839680 - 06/21/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"It was later determined that eight of the nine shots fired hit Yatim. Surveillance video suggests that Yatim was lying on the ground when the last six shots were fired."

no, it's not over how he was mentally ill. it was over how the police handled the situation. they had multiple police on scene, and one cop decided to take it to the level of killing the guy on the ground because he wouldn't stop moving.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839770 - 06/21/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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As a relatively well-mannered white male Canadian, presuming it would be comparatively safe for me to consider moving to the United States at some point then?
Look a little scruffy and have a funny accent, but no predilection toward violence.



If you aren't a troublemaker and avoid high crime areas, which you can generally just use your eyes to figure out what's an unsafe area in the US, then you are unlikely to have any problems. Even in high crime areas, random acts of violence are rare. By the way, Florida is full of Canadians. Québécois love the Sebring, Florida area I've noticed.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839771 - 06/21/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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"It was later determined that eight of the nine shots fired hit Yatim. Surveillance video suggests that Yatim was lying on the ground when the last six shots were fired."

no, it's not over how he was mentally ill. it was over how the police handled the situation. they had multiple police on scene, and one cop decided to take it to the level of killing the guy on the ground because he wouldn't stop moving.




Yeah that was my bad, posted before finishing working through the second link; they were two different shootings.  Went back and edited my post to fix for clarity a bit.

Can see the issues with the Yatim case -- they even went back and tasered him after the second round of bullets.  :wtf:


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: D.M.T]
    #21839795 - 06/21/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you for the insight DMT.

Somehow Canadians flocking to Florida does not surprise me at all. :lol:


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: Tantrika]
    #21839823 - 06/21/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the fact that you have two conflicting stories, with one being fervently abusive of power, in the story's cop's, and the other being a communication of strategy to take down an assailant whom may have been absolutely dangerous, just shows that there is a difference in the two kind of events. then you're left to wonder: which outcome is happening more often.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: Tantrika]
    #21839906 - 06/21/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

damn well i guess everyone else is a bitch except for usa :whatyougonnado:

seriously tho, where ever u have the most freedom u'll have the most oppression


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: zZZz]
    #21839927 - 06/21/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not so sure about that..


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: D.M.T]
    #21839931 - 06/21/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

other people are tho cuz they;re smarter than u


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #21839943 - 06/21/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When anyone lives the life of a Tuareg from Northern Mali in the US, then we will talk about oppression.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: D.M.T]
    #21839954 - 06/21/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: D.M.T] * 4
    #21840005 - 06/21/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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When anyone lives the life of a Tuareg from Northern Mali in the US, then we will talk about oppression.



nice false dilemma.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21840011 - 06/21/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He said "seriously tho, where ever u have the most freedom u'll have the most oppression", and I counteracted that with reality.

You may feel oppressed but you're not, and even if you were you definitely have nowhere near the most oppression. You're privileged to live in Canada.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: D.M.T] * 2
    #21840015 - 06/21/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It unfortunate that the rate at which police officers kill citizens is so high compared to other parts of the world though.



What would help is if people knew how to properly behave themselves around police. Unfortunately, intelligence evades the common criminal.



Yeah because it's always people that don't know how to behave that get shot. :cookiemonster:


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: LordSenate]
    #21840025 - 06/21/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It unfortunate that the rate at which police officers kill citizens is so high compared to other parts of the world though.



What would help is if people knew how to properly behave themselves around police. Unfortunately, intelligence evades the common criminal.



Yeah because it's always people that don't know how to behave that get shot. :cookiemonster:



Riddle me this then, out of all the shootings this year by police, how many of them were unjustifiable?

There is a direct correlation with being a dumbass to the police and getting shot by one.


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Re: By The Numbers: Worldwide Killings by Cops [Re: D.M.T]
    #21840207 - 06/22/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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