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keighanr
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Asking for some pointers
#21837478 - 06/21/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey there first time growing mushrooms, i have three different strains from aloha medicinals, azul, columbus and js1 oysters, i live in Northern Maine so i figured those strains would be the best for our temperatures even our summers were lucky for 80 degree days, mostly been around 65-70 lately anyways i got 30 lbs of spawn and inoculated around 300-400lbs of straw eyeing it out. Any tips are encouraged because if i can get it to work id like to do this fulltime in the future. I did approximatly 100lbs of dry substrate in a 35 gallon drum heatedover a wood fire to almost boiling temperatures for around 8 hours. I then did the rest in large tubs of hydrated lime. I pasteurized in hydrated lime for approximatly 16 hours in which then i transfered straw to a shopping cart i alcohol'd down placed straw and then pressed down to get water out transfered appoximatly 20 ft to inoculation room wrung out and inoculated b patch micron filters. I only have a small room approximatly 10x10 in which i wrapped in plastic and sterilized with bleach i have a rubber roof piece cut into a door sealed around entry and another piece of plastic before entry. Im on a very tight budget so i wasnt able to get a hepa filter or condition controlling elements for the room hunidity is kept between 70-90%. Room has fresh air from entryway because unfortuneatly i didnt have the ability to completey seal doorway even with two entryways. The substrate was inoculated over a period of a week. There not on racks just strategicly placed together to tell the differeny strains im not worried that much about cross contamination just some ideas on the setup im hoping after this crop to retrofit a reefer trailer or old bus to accomodate a run room and fruiting room.
-------------------- The man who comes back through the Door in the Wall will never be quite the same as the man who went out. He will be wiser but less sure, happier but less self-satisfied, humbler in acknowledging his ignorance yet better equipped to understand the relationship of words to things, of systematic reasoning to the unfathomable mystery which he tries, forever vainly, to comprehend. -Aldous Huxley
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Humbled
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Re: Asking for some pointers [Re: keighanr]
#21862588 - 06/27/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's kind of hard to follow what you are trying to explain... some pictures of your setup would help greatly. Aloha charges a pretty penny for their cultures so you sure did dive right in for a first time grower.
Hopefully we can help guide you along the way. Post back bro!
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keighanr
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Re: Asking for some pointers [Re: Humbled]
#21868974 - 06/28/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool, its rainin right now but I'll try to get some pictures!
-------------------- The man who comes back through the Door in the Wall will never be quite the same as the man who went out. He will be wiser but less sure, happier but less self-satisfied, humbler in acknowledging his ignorance yet better equipped to understand the relationship of words to things, of systematic reasoning to the unfathomable mystery which he tries, forever vainly, to comprehend. -Aldous Huxley
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knomadic_niki
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Re: Asking for some pointers [Re: keighanr]
#21869022 - 06/28/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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it sounds like you may have over-pasteurized your straw. you want your straw to pasteurize at 160 degrees for 1-2 hours. using a probe thermometer will help you to know when the center of your substrate is up to temperature. if it gets above 180, you will over-pasteurize and kill the good microbes that keep your sub from contaminating....
i've never lime pasteurized anything so i can't help you out there
you don't need to sterilize your fruiting chamber so don't worry about that. you shouldn't keep the bags on the floor, though...that's where all the funk settles.
so, those are my comments. did you have some specific questions?
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keighanr
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If i got those plastic closets from wally world and drilled holes for natural sunlight andbput then outside would that be fine or retrofit it with a light.
-------------------- The man who comes back through the Door in the Wall will never be quite the same as the man who went out. He will be wiser but less sure, happier but less self-satisfied, humbler in acknowledging his ignorance yet better equipped to understand the relationship of words to things, of systematic reasoning to the unfathomable mystery which he tries, forever vainly, to comprehend. -Aldous Huxley
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knomadic_niki
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Re: Asking for some pointers [Re: keighanr]
#21870084 - 06/28/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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would that be fine for what? i thought you built a fruiting room?
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Gr0wer
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~140F for 90 min is where you want to pasteurize.
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keighanr
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Re: Asking for some pointers [Re: Gr0wer]
#21872040 - 06/29/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I did not quite big enough for everything i have but i dont need a bunch of space was wondering howbthat would work
-------------------- The man who comes back through the Door in the Wall will never be quite the same as the man who went out. He will be wiser but less sure, happier but less self-satisfied, humbler in acknowledging his ignorance yet better equipped to understand the relationship of words to things, of systematic reasoning to the unfathomable mystery which he tries, forever vainly, to comprehend. -Aldous Huxley
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That_Idiot



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Re: Asking for some pointers [Re: Humbled]
#21872385 - 06/29/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've used the hydrated lime method to grow a number of oyster varieties with very nice results for a few years now. After soaking for 18-24 hrs, I drain on a nursery table - heavy mesh and then inoculate in the open air. I bagged into 4 mil. bags, then punctured. The bags were kept in a corner of the basement without any humidity regulation. After the first pinning they were left outside and managed to fruit 3-4 more times (though later fruitings were not "commercially viable")
I agree that your hot water pasteurization was too hot for too long.
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keighanr
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Re: Asking for some pointers [Re: That_Idiot]
#21874344 - 06/29/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Think ive vot pink mold
-------------------- The man who comes back through the Door in the Wall will never be quite the same as the man who went out. He will be wiser but less sure, happier but less self-satisfied, humbler in acknowledging his ignorance yet better equipped to understand the relationship of words to things, of systematic reasoning to the unfathomable mystery which he tries, forever vainly, to comprehend. -Aldous Huxley
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