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OfflineFreeTheSoul
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21838531 - 06/21/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It was an inside job. :feelsparanoidman:


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21838564 - 06/21/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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a very tame situation into a life and death confrontation




if the kid wasn't armed, then it was always tame, until the cop blew it up.

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The kid would have gotten a ticket and life would go on, he wanted confrontation so badly he was willing to sacrifice his own life.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: qman]
    #21838618 - 06/21/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

so what? good for him. if he martyrs himself, fine. i don't care. that's not the point. what, do you feel sorry for him?

no? then why are you focusing on such a trite sentiment.

he died, BECAUSE the cops can kill you for nothing.

that's a problem, in case you didn't notice.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21838707 - 06/21/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
so what? good for him. if he martyrs himself, fine. i don't care. that's not the point. what, do you feel sorry for him?

no? then why are you focusing on such a trite sentiment.

he died, BECAUSE the cops can kill you for nothing.

that's a problem, in case you didn't notice.




"the cops can kill you for nothing"

No they can't.  Don't fight in the streets with a cop that you have issue with, wait for your day in court, it's a very simple concept that civilized people use with their encounters with law enforcement.

Some people claim Michael Brown did nothing wrong but that's not true, when you sucker punch a cop and then try to steal his gun, you're doing suicide by cop.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21838724 - 06/21/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:

he died, BECAUSE the cops can kill you for nothing.






he died because he lost his shit when the cop wouldnt comply with his demands and attacked a cop


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21838746 - 06/21/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

maybe he attacked him. do you have any evidence?


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21838779 - 06/21/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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"the cops can kill you for nothing"

No they can't.  Don't fight in the streets with a cop that you have issue with, wait for your day in court, it's a very simple concept that civilized people use with their encounters with law enforcement.

Some people claim Michael Brown did nothing wrong but that's not true, when you sucker punch a cop and then try to steal his gun, you're doing suicide by cop.




Michael Brown was certainly facing alot incrimination's. he certainly was at fault, and certainly, taking into account the placement and his coercion to the officer in that case, i mean, before all i can hold claim to, i think, is that i was trying to explain how someone being shot at essentially will try and move forward to the assailant to try and stop him, since running in any other direction, unless you have cover, would certainly lead to death; and that THAT's the reason why he lunged at the cop near the end of his life; because he was being shot at, FIRST, and not charging first. big difference in the otherworldly accounts posted about on here those days. but onto this case.

i don't know if the cop had any reason to stop him, and he simply didn't want to be hassled by someone whom didn't have anything on him. the cop instigated if the subject had nothing on him, or was doing nothing wrong. in any sensible world, where natural law and emotion and action and REASON isn't overpowered by immaterial proclamations of imagination.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21838799 - 06/21/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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maybe he attacked him. do you have any evidence?





WAY TO GO CANADA!


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21838831 - 06/21/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

WAY TO GO PRIS.

i am not going to judge without video evidence. some photos aren't going to cut it for what's behind the big blue wall, so you can shove that evidence up where the sun don't shine, Media-dupee's.

we all know that framing of incrimination is viable and well known to be well done. crack the cop in the face on scene or away from, and snap some pictures.

but really, this is happening to occur on a much frequent basis, where cops are overstepping there bounds, so i feel much suspicion in the outcome of events here, and have good reason to be... but without video evidence, no one can tell for sure.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21838847 - 06/21/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

"the cops can kill you for nothing"

No they can't.  Don't fight in the streets with a cop that you have issue with, wait for your day in court, it's a very simple concept that civilized people use with their encounters with law enforcement.

Some people claim Michael Brown did nothing wrong but that's not true, when you sucker punch a cop and then try to steal his gun, you're doing suicide by cop.




Michael Brown was certainly facing alot incrimination's. he certainly was at fault, and certainly, taking into account the placement and his coercion to the officer in that case, i mean, before all i can hold claim to, i think, is that i was trying to explain how someone being shot at essentially will try and move forward to the assailant to try and stop him, since running in any other direction, unless you have cover, would certainly lead to death; and that THAT's the reason why he lunged at the cop near the end of his life; because he was being shot at, FIRST, and not charging first. big difference in the otherworldly accounts posted about on here those days. but onto this case.

i don't know if the cop had any reason to stop him, and he simply didn't want to be hassled by someone whom didn't have anything on him. the cop instigated if the subject had nothing on him, or was doing nothing wrong. in any sensible world, where natural law and emotion and action and REASON isn't overpowered by immaterial proclamations of imagination.




"i don't know is the cop had any reason to stop him"

It doesn't matter, that potential injustice can be settled in the court of law, it shouldn't be settled with violence in the middle of a street.

In the Brown case, the confrontation started because he robbed a convenience store.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: qman]
    #21838930 - 06/21/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

in the Brown case, i don't care about how it started... i care about how people misperceived what anyone of them woudl do if fired upon by a pistol, at mid-range, they'd hope to move forward and jump at and hope to take the gun off of the shooter. so people just jumped to the conclusion that he was lunging at the cop and that's why the cop fired, because he was bull charged at. but he wasn't. he was shooting first, at the back of the subject as he was running away and hit his leg or was it upper shoulder, i don't remember now, but regardless, he hit him from the back, and then the subject turned around to charge at the cop, to try and stop the cop from shooting at, what is presumably, a fish in a barrel at that point.

there is a difference here, and i don't think many people here looked closely enough at the forensic evidence. they merely gaggled over how right they thought they were.

which is the problem.

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It doesn't matter, that potential injustice can be settled in the court of law, it shouldn't be settled with violence in the middle of a street.




you don't know what happened. i'm more liable to believe that he might have done something, but then i have to ask, "why would an unarmed man do that?" and i have to presume it's because he wasn't taking the cops nonchalant stance on his perpetrating what he had no evidence, rhyme or reason for, and accusing the subject of what was unfounded, and then decided to fend for himself like anyone would do, if the cop was insisting that you will die at his hand if you don't believe yourself to guilty.

they are not judge nor jury. there are specific laws that are being expunged for the sake of safety of fool-hearty police officers and yankee pre-constitutionalist's.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839043 - 06/21/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
in the Brown case, i don't care about how it started... i care about how people misperceived what anyone of them woudl do if fired upon by a pistol, at mid-range, they'd hope to move forward and jump at and hope to take the gun off of the shooter. so people just jumped to the conclusion that he was lunging at the cop and that's why the cop fired, because he was bull charged at. but he wasn't. he was shooting first, at the back of the subject as he was running away and hit his leg or was it upper shoulder, i don't remember now, but regardless, he hit him from the back, and then the subject turned around to charge at the cop, to try and stop the cop from shooting at, what is presumably, a fish in a barrel at that point.

there is a difference here, and i don't think many people here looked closely enough at the forensic evidence. they merely gaggled over how right they thought they were.

which is the problem.

Quote:

It doesn't matter, that potential injustice can be settled in the court of law, it shouldn't be settled with violence in the middle of a street.




you don't know what happened. i'm more liable to believe that he might have done something, but then i have to ask, "why would an unarmed man do that?" and i have to presume it's because he wasn't taking the cops nonchalant stance on his perpetrating what he had no evidence, rhyme or reason for, and accusing the subject of what was unfounded, and then decided to fend for himself like anyone would do, if the cop was insisting that you will die at his hand if you don't believe yourself to guilty.

they are not judge nor jury. there are specific laws that are being expunged for the sake of safety of fool-hearty police officers and yankee pre-constitutionalist's.




"accusing the subject of what was unfounded, and then decided to fend for himself like anyone would do"

Really?  If I think I'm potentially being falsely accused/arrested of a crime by law enforcement, I don't attempt to "fend" them off right there, that's fucking stupid.

Do you know what I do?  I fully cooperate and then hire an attorney for legal representation which would get the charges dropped and even a potential lawsuit against the police force.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839074 - 06/21/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The fact is, if you legitimately haven't done anything wrong and a cop stops you. Do as they ask and you will probably get a ticket at worst (and tickets are ridiculously easy to fight). Flexing your rights does nothing but ramp up the hostility of the situation and make you look even MORE suspicious. After all, if your innocent and haven't done anything wrong then what reason would you have to be so resistant?
Sadly it's true, this "fuck the cops" and "know your rights" bullshit is getting people killed. 5 minutes of YouTube fame for antagonizing a cop ain't worth the grand prize of a pine box.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bjorn_Stormcrow]
    #21839093 - 06/21/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

sure it is. cops shouldn't be allowed to accuse people of nothing, you are not in a police state. the more people who stand up to their belligerence, the more people will understand that there is a disconnect between their job and their need to subjugate.

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Really?  If I think I'm potentially being falsely accused/arrested of a crime by law enforcement, I don't attempt to "fend" them off right there, that's fucking stupid.

Do you know what I do?  I fully cooperate and then hire an attorney for legal representation which would get the charges dropped and even a potential lawsuit against the police force.




screw paying for potential anything.

you're screwed out of your civil liberties from the ground up with that attitude.

sure, just rail road me cop, i'll pay for it, either way....

:facepalm:


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839114 - 06/21/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have seen people like Shroomism here straight up wishing death upon cops. Some people believe cops only have the right to defend themselves if shots are being fired at them. I personally believe that cops risk their lives every day and must defend themselves. There is no way anyone would want to be a cop if part of the requirement of their job was to be shot at and not fight back because people on the shroomery say so.

Not a good look for the people here. Show a bit of maturity please.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21839150 - 06/21/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat2: you're telling me about maturity.

cops only have the right to defend themselves just like everyone else, when they are being attacked.

plenty times they seem to forget that.

and also alot of times they choose to be overly violent and/or aggressive simply because they want to. plenty of documentation and evidence that shows that. they need constant reform, like any institutional faculty.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839155 - 06/21/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
WAY TO GO PRIS.

i am not going to judge without video evidence. some photos aren't going to cut it for what's behind the big blue wall, so you can shove that evidence up where the sun don't shine, Media-dupee's.




the video is in the first post, the photos simply show that liberal cop haters
like yourself are blind and cant see what's so damned blatantly obvious, the
thing they all say couldnt have happened because he was trying to run away

maybe I'm just better with the details because they're too butthurt to look


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we all know that framing of incrimination is viable and well known to be well done. crack the cop in the face on scene or away from, and snap some pictures.





screen caps of the dumbass attacking the cop show how utterly canadian this statement is


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but without video evidence, no one can tell for sure.





the video is there. you apparently did like you always do, jumped in bashing
cops with no clue what is going on, great work.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21839161 - 06/21/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

People should look at it from a ccw holders view, If a ccw holder did this he would be in jail facing murder charges. I think they should charge the cop, there's enough evidence to charge him. Let the jury decide if hes guilty.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21839164 - 06/21/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
sure it is. cops shouldn't be allowed to accuse people of nothing, you are not in a police state. the more people who stand up to their belligerence, the more people will understand that there is a disconnect between their job and their need to subjugate.

Quote:

Really?  If I think I'm potentially being falsely accused/arrested of a crime by law enforcement, I don't attempt to "fend" them off right there, that's fucking stupid.

Do you know what I do?  I fully cooperate and then hire an attorney for legal representation which would get the charges dropped and even a potential lawsuit against the police force.




screw paying for potential anything.

you're screwed out of your civil liberties from the ground up with that attitude.

sure, just rail road me cop, i'll pay for it, either way....

:facepalm:





you feel free to stand up for your civil liberties and we'll be here to read the headlines


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: FreeTheSoul]
    #21839182 - 06/21/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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FreeTheSoul said:
People should look at it from a ccw holders view, If a ccw holder did this he would be in jail facing murder charges. I think they should charge the cop, there's enough evidence to charge him. Let the jury decide if hes guilty.





already been proven false thousands of times per year

here's a black CCW holder shooting an unarmed white man that attempted to attack
him. no charges even though the guy lied to the cops about the guy grabbing for
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