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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Salomon]
    #21836224 - 06/21/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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so if some one punches you, the logical reaction is to shoot them multiple times?

maybe whip out the can of mace or the baton?


nah just smoke the fuck out of them:rolleyes:





cop used a taser, before the taser he tried to brute force the kid into a
position to handcuff him, when the kid jumped up and attacked him at what
point should the cop have offered the kid a blowjob cuz it seem you're
heading in that direction with this, that we shouldnt shoot the criminally
stupid that sucking their dicks is a better way


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Shroomism]
    #21836251 - 06/21/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah, he gets up to smack the taser out of the cops hands and run. I can see why lethal force was necessary, can't have an unarmed 17 year old who committed no crime to run free. 






well that's much different than your other false claims where he just jumped up
and ran away, you seem to be great at making excuses and false claims to vilify
cops and promote criminal behavior... how many cops have you shot so far?


would you like to show us the video where it shows him just running away and
not attacking a cop because I certainly dont see anything you describe in the
videos available


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I didn't know making a stupid choice was punishable by instant death on the street. I guess now it is. You probably wouldn't feel the same if it was your kid.




seems you need to educate yourself then because it's been that way for hundreds
of thousands of years


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21836265 - 06/21/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Over 9000.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Shroomism] * 2
    #21836351 - 06/21/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I will never see eye to eye on these matters with Pris. It's like he's some kind of weird alien, to whom concepts as empathy and mortality are unknown.

Don't you understand it, Pris? A KID IS DEAD. Do you not understand this? Or is the honour of a policeman more important then somebody's life?
Pray it won't be your kid that gets executed for being an idiot.
(Ever met a kid who was not an idiot?)


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21836367 - 06/21/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You guys act like kids are incapable of having weapons or being a potential threat to the cops life. Plus attaching the world child to it makes it much more dramatic, how many more months until we considered him an adult? Would he still be as important? or does his significance automatically drop because of a number? He's old enough to make reasonable decisions, he acted like an idiot, and a cop made a judgment call. I'm not justifying what the cop did, but he tried nonlethal, didn't work, so he went lethal when teh kid attacked.

The kid was totally wrong from the start of the video, everything that happened or followed was a direct result of his own actions. I usually disagree with pris too, but a cop isn't always wrong just because he pulls his gun.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21836398 - 06/21/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You guys act like kids are incapable of having weapons or being a potential threat to the cops life. Plus attaching the world child to it makes it much more dramatic, how many more months until we considered him an adult? Would he still be as important? or does his significance automatically drop because of a number? He's old enough to make reasonable decisions, he acted like an idiot, and a cop made a judgment call. I'm not justifying what the cop did, but he tried nonlethal, didn't work, so he went lethal when teh kid attacked.

The kid was totally wrong from the start of the video, everything that happened or followed was a direct result of his own actions.




Still, dead is dead. People are not some statistic or number on a computer screen, they are every bit as alive as you or I.
We all know the kid was in the wrong, that is not up for debate here.
But now he is dead. Pew pew, another life snuffed out, and for what?


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21836416 - 06/21/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Don't you understand it, Pris? A KID IS DEAD. Do you not understand this?
(Ever met a kid who was not an idiot?)




let me ask... did you survive your teens? I survived them without getting my ass shot, seems like the majority of teens actually do make it past that age and into adulthood... why would that be? could it be that they arent all stupid?

I've met plenty of 'kids' that were not idiots


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21836421 - 06/21/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Still, dead is dead. People are not some statistic or number on a computer screen, they are every bit as alive as you or I.
We all know the kid was in the wrong, that is not up for debate here.
But now he is dead. Pew pew, another life snuffed out, and for what?






because he proved he was too stupid to live


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21836424 - 06/21/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You should blame the anticop culture happening right now, attack a cop, you get shot, that's common sense.

But this kid "felt" he had rights when he didn't, and wouldn't comply and make it easy, because he wanted to record and prove himself right, when he wasn't.

I don't want him to be dead, but in no way do I think this cop should be brought up on charges for doing his job. Don't attack police, it's really simple, they are trained to use lethal force if they are attacked...he attempted nonlethal, which made the kid stand up and attack, so he went lethal. The cop was right here, stupidity is a factor as pris said, that's why most kids make it through their teens, they aren't stupid enough to try and attack a police officer.

You're going to see a lot more of this stupid shit the more this anticop movement keeps happening. People are going to keep being idiots to cops in order to prove a point, and they're going to go overboard in that attempt, just like this kid who is only a kid on paper but old enough to make reasonable decisions.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21836444 - 06/21/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah if you want police protection, join the force.  They're not there to look of for the interests of anyone who does not comply fully.  Their job is to make people comply, and if they don't to kill them.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21836453 - 06/21/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Comply fully? He was pulled over for some type of violation, which requires him to show an I.D....But this jackass is part of the anticop movement and wanted to prove a point by saying "I don't have to ".....yes, you fucking idiot...yes you do.... Apart from that, if I was the cop, I would of thought he was drunk since he appeared to be slurring to me.

you don't have to fully comply, but you do when it's actually required of you by law.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21836481 - 06/21/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The kid was high on 'THC and we all know that he was likely out of control :rolleyes: But if you get pulled over, for whatever bullshit reason, you need to comply with providing documentation. People think they have legal rights within your car or vehicle and fact of the matter is you don't.

It's all bullshit though.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Detached]
    #21836486 - 06/21/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So he was resisting because he was afraid he'd be caught committing a crime that could potentially hurt and kill other people since he was impaired? He's only a child though we shouldn't worry about that.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21836500 - 06/21/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If the kid would have provided his drivers license and documentation (VERY standard routine) this would likely not have happened and the kid would have continued on with his night.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Detached]
    #21836503 - 06/21/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

exactly


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21836524 - 06/21/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Comply fully? He was pulled over for some type of violation, which requires him to show an I.D....But this jackass is part of the anticop movement and wanted to prove a point by saying "I don't have to ".....yes, you fucking idiot...yes you do.... Apart from that, if I was the cop, I would of thought he was drunk since he appeared to be slurring to me.

you don't have to fully comply, but you do when it's actually required of you by law.




Could you cite this violation.  I'm not sure that part will stand up in court.  I'm not an expert on MI law, but I can't find anything illegal about flashing your headlights at someone.  Obviously there is a law that says you've got to dim them at X feet, but it is unclear to me if flashing is actually an offense.  I asked earlier but nobody knows I guess :shrug:

It shouldn't have gone like this.  There is obviously something he did wrong, either in his lack of self-control or in his training if this results from a simple traffic stop.  That just shouldn't happen.  If you decide to approach someone alone in the dark in an aggressive way and taze them, it is almost guarenteed they will go to great lengths to stop that from happening.  Doing that isn't even intentionally resisting IMO.  When you are electrocuted your autonomic systems are compromised.  Of course that is going to get ugly.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21836546 - 06/21/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Finally we agree on something.
He didn't even need to be tased.. he was complying when the cop told him to get on the ground, even if he was verbally protesting. It was completely unnecessary.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21836557 - 06/21/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The cop seemed very calm and nonaggressive to me, until a guy who appears to have slowed and slurred speech starts being uncooperative.

Seemed to be he wouldn't put his hands behind his back which is why he got tased.

Dude was impaired and driving, it's not like he was pure innocent from the start.


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21836579 - 06/21/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You don't have to comply, but it's generally in your best interest to do so. You don't really loose anything by being polite and just doing as your asked so what do you really gain by being an argumentative assholes about it?


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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Shroomism]
    #21836596 - 06/21/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Finally we agree on something.
He didn't even need to be tased.. he was complying when the cop told him to get on the ground, even if he was verbally protesting. It was completely unnecessary.





so for one brief second he was compliant but when the cop told him to put the
phone down, was he compliant? when the cop told him to put his hands behind his
back, was he compliant? when the cop tried to force his hand behind his back,
was he compliant? clearly the taser was needed but as I've said many times, it
doesnt matter what course of action a cop takes, it was the wrong actions in
this case people are saying the cop shouldnt have even stopped him and that cop
was being pretty damned cool up until the kid started lying to the cop and
telling the cop what he cant do


take your blinders off, see things as they really are, you said he wasnt trying
to fight the cop but the video evidence shows he was, you seem to be so blinded
by rage and fear of cops that you refuse to see the wrongs these people do


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