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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: teamkiller]
#21835231 - 06/21/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: i'm sorry the kid died, and i don't think hitting a police officer should be a death sentence, but on the video you can clearly see the kid hitting the police officer.
Did you see any pink elephants along with the kid hitting the cop?
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: endogenous]
#21835239 - 06/21/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I honestly think the kid thought because he was white he would get a free pass and not have to show his license and registration or obey any of the commands of the cop.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21835242 - 06/21/15 02:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Technically yes. There's a certain distance you're supposed to turn them off (and keep them off) from oncoming cars. It's effects are the worst on unlit long stretches of road where you're not constantly exposed to headlights and what not. That shit is blinding. On my way through the country when someone wouldn't turn off their high beams I'd get so pissed off. I'd have a NDE every single time because I'd be driving along at like 70mph and totally blind for 5 or so seconds.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: teamkiller]
#21835249 - 06/21/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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teamkiller said: i'm sorry the kid died, and i don't think hitting a police officer should be a death sentence, but on the video you can clearly see the kid hitting the police officer.
I hope you are trolling. The video goes black when the cop starts chasing him. You don't see shit. Nor could the forensic people who analyzed it. But you can hear the audio.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21835252 - 06/21/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gresh said:

does anyone see an actual injury? or does that just look like makeup?
seriously. wtf. look at that picture. where is there an injury? all i see is blood(probably fake blood)
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Bitter Cactus said: I watched the video and did think he did at least try to push the police officer away. Listen up though. The kid started running away from the cop. In a police officer's eyes, this kid could of potentially had a weapon and could have easily ran a few steps back and fired a few shots at the officer.
That is not a legal standard in the US. There was no evidence of a weapon whatsoever, and anyone could potentially have a weapon. The police may only use deadly force if a fleeing suspect poses a a significant risk of death to others. This kid just wanted to get away. He was detained for a traffic violation. There is no reasonable expectation that he was a significant danger to anyone. The cop murdered him.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: koods]
#21835258 - 06/21/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well clearly that kid was a significant risk. Look at the injuries the cop has in that pic man.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: koods] 4
#21835260 - 06/21/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah there's is absolutely no justification for shooting someone who is running away for their life (for good reason apparently). The cop already had him on the ground and felt for weapons. The kid was not a threat one bit. He got tased and flight or fight mode kicked in and he booked it. That's not a reason for an execution on the street. This was murder. Even after he fired three shots, the kid screamed, slight pause.. and he fires 4 more. He completely intended to kill the kid.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21835262 - 06/21/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Well clearly that kid was a significant risk. Look at the injuries the cop has in that pic man.
How do you know the cop didn't do that to himself? There's absolutely nothing to suggest in the audio that the kid was on top of him punching him, there wasn't even time for that. You hear the cop chasing him, and shooting him. He probably smashed himself with a rock afterwards to have a cover story.
I love how you support every cop killing someone that ever happens. Now just waiting for pris and zappa to show up and defend it too then it will be complete.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Shroomism]
#21835265 - 06/21/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Again, look at that picture. That kid was no innocent bystander in all this. Clearly he inflicted some types of injuries on the officer and posed a threat.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Shroomism]
#21835266 - 06/21/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Well clearly that kid was a significant risk. Look at the injuries the cop has in that pic man.
How do you know the cop didn't do that to himself? There's absolutely nothing to suggest in the audio that the kid was on top of him punching him, there wasn't even time for that. You hear the cop chasing him, and shooting him. He probably smashed himself with a rock afterwards to have a cover story.
You honestly think the cop smashed himself with a rock to cover up the story?
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21835267 - 06/21/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Again, look at that picture. That kid was no innocent bystander in all this. Clearly he inflicted some types of injuries on the officer and posed a threat.
you clearly dont understand the concept of self-inflicted wounds, or makeup.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21835268 - 06/21/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yep. How are you so naive?
Did you even watch the clip and listen to the audio? I did about 400 times. Please point out to me the exact moment you hear the kid attacking the cop. Because all I hear is the cop chasing him, no struggle, no pauses... just the sound of running, and then he shoots him.. 7 times.
Then after he murders the kid, he hit himself in the face, maybe with a rock, maybe something else. Then makes up some story about the kid cornering him in a ditch and throwing punches at him and fearing for his life. Total bullshit.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Shroomism]
#21835275 - 06/21/15 02:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sure there was some investigation into it and they would be able to tell if the cop put make up on or hit himself in the face with a rock.
Odds are, they have looked into it, because somebody did get killed and clearly they saw that the kid did inflict the injuries on the cop. If the kid did do that the cop had every right to defend himself.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21835278 - 06/21/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Investigated"

When do they ever investigate themselves and find they were wrong.. oh that's right... pretty much never.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21835279 - 06/21/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: I'm sure there was some investigation into it and they would be able to tell if the cop put make up on or hit himself in the face with a rock.
Odds are, they have looked into it, because somebody did get killed and clearly they saw that the kid did inflict the injuries on the cop. If the kid did do that the cop had every right to defend himself.
Not that I'm saying the injuries were fake or anything (I just don't know) but one of the main problems with our police force is that basically they are all in it together. Cops who don't like what's going on even keep their mouth shut because of the consequences of blowing the whistle.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus] 2
#21835288 - 06/21/15 02:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Well clearly that kid was a significant risk. Look at the injuries the cop has in that pic man.
How do you know the cop didn't do that to himself? There's absolutely nothing to suggest in the audio that the kid was on top of him punching him, there wasn't even time for that. You hear the cop chasing him, and shooting him. He probably smashed himself with a rock afterwards to have a cover story.
You honestly think the cop smashed himself with a rock to cover up the story? 
Good lord you are naive. Cop loses his temper. Murders a kid he pulled over in a dubious traffic stop. He is in big trouble unless he can justify his actions. Cops are trained to lie. Cops prime directive is to protect themselves and other cops. That is their culture. As long as you have other other cops backs, they have yours. That is the code they live by. It is truly fucked up and is essentially a gang mentality.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21835290 - 06/21/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Well clearly that kid was a significant risk. Look at the injuries the cop has in that pic man.
How do you know the cop didn't do that to himself? There's absolutely nothing to suggest in the audio that the kid was on top of him punching him, there wasn't even time for that. You hear the cop chasing him, and shooting him. He probably smashed himself with a rock afterwards to have a cover story.
You honestly think the cop smashed himself with a rock to cover up the story? 
If you were facing the prospect of life in prison, (and a cop is not a very popular prisoner with the other inmates), which would you chose - hit yourself in the face with a rock, or jail?
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21835295 - 06/21/15 02:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Well clearly that kid was a significant risk. Look at the injuries the cop has in that pic man.
How do you know the cop didn't do that to himself? There's absolutely nothing to suggest in the audio that the kid was on top of him punching him, there wasn't even time for that. You hear the cop chasing him, and shooting him. He probably smashed himself with a rock afterwards to have a cover story.
You honestly think the cop smashed himself with a rock to cover up the story? 
ok lets just say HYPOTHETICALLY that the cop just straight murdered the kid and suffered no injury to his person.
how's that gonna look when people find out?
very bad.
but if OH HE WAS VIOLENT AND ATTACKED ME LOOK AT MY FACE BLOOD is presented after the fact, then theres a bit of plausible denyability added to his case.
so yes it is logical that the cop would cause his own injuries to avoid getting the 5th degree.
surely you can see that, even as the cop apologist you are.
just for laughs lets say that the guy wasn't even a cop, would it still not make sense that he'd injure himself to try to cover up his murder?
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Salomon]
#21835299 - 06/21/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pretty sure it is pretty easy to tell if someone has a self inflicted injury. Especially if the injury is hitting yourself in the face with a rock. 
You guys are just grasping at straws.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21835302 - 06/21/15 02:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you're looking at an elephant and seeing nothing.
"what elephant?"
I SEE NOTHING
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