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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: So you think if the cop didn't subdue him right then and there this kid would have gotten away? He was driving a legally registered vehicle, and had committed no crime. There was no reason to subdue him 1 on 1 right there.
He could have driven away at anytime. When is the right time to subdue him, do you think this retard would have behaved differently with two cops instead of one? I doubt it, he was non-compliant.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21839899 - 06/21/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: have another cap of the little retard attacking the cop, we shouldnt have any question about whether the attack happened or not at this point

stopping the cop from abusing him for nothing. correction. go to sleep now.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: qman]
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how did the cop escalate things?
by providing no juncture to the kid ultimately being correct. his lights WERE blinding people, including the kid, and that's why the kid beamed him, to warm him... not to commit a crime. it was a shaft if i've ever saw one.
The cop doesn't need to offer any explanation about his car, the kid does need to comply, he didn't.
Oh yeah, because it is written into law that all citizens must blindly follow all commands given by the police without question. That's totally not exactly how a police state works.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: qman]
#21839909 - 06/21/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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He could have driven away at anytime. When is the right time to subdue him, do you think this retard would have behaved differently with two cops instead of one? I doubt it, he was non-compliant.
the cop had his license. he couldn't have gotten far. if he started a high speed pursuit, then i could see why he'd need to be taken down. not for, umm... nothing, but the cop's poor headlight function blinding people on the road. no, *pats on head* that's the cops' fault sweety pie.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21839912 - 06/21/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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He could have driven away at anytime. When is the right time to subdue him, do you think this retard would have behaved differently with two cops instead of one? I doubt it, he was non-compliant.
Yes he could have, but he didn't.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839917 - 06/21/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: watch form 3:00 and on. you will hear his story about his "new vehicle" and how he stopped other people for "the same thing tonight" as he stopped the kid for.
it's cool how you completely omit how his new headlights are bright and that he WAS NOT driving with his brights on. see, it's those details the cop haters miss, details such as the tardboy attacking the cop
in the first 30 seconds he says "I pulled you over because you flashed me and I didnt even have my brights on" and the kid argues he did and he states again and again that he didnt have his brights on and explains that others thought the same
so... wanna go watch that shit again and tell me how the cop had his brights on? I flash people frequently when it appears they have their brights on because the roads are poorly marked and those brights pose a real hazard, some have lights that are aimed badly, some have HID lights and some have really bright lighs or jacked up trucks where the lights appear to be the high beams
so you deserve to be arrested then, apparently.
why? I'm not a dumbass that refuses to hand my license and insurance to a cop when asked, I dont like and claim I left them at home and then admit that I do have them but I dont have to show them to a cop because I KNOW MY RIGHTS
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you're right, he did say his car was new so his beams are bright. nevertheless the other's did the same thing as the kid, they tried to warn him. what did the kid do different, he did not produce his I.D. card. but that isn't even a jailable to juvenile's and misdemeanor first offences. it's a warning at best.
oh, so now you're a legal expert... to the contrary, when you're driving a car you are required to show a license to a cop when asked if you refuse or fail to produce that ID then the cop does have the right to haul your ass to the police station to make a positive ID, that can take days... maybe you should have a clue before you take up the argument... I dont know why I say it because you never have in the past
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the cop wanted to take out his annoyance on the kid
really and you pulled this right out of your ass? I saw a cop that was doing what cops do but was actually being pretty cool about it until the youtube legal expert in his little pot filled head spoke up
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like i said, the kid was as stupid as the cop, but not having his license, first of all... but regardless the cop still acted outside of his duty, entirely, and simply wanted to take this instance of non-compliance to the furthest he could to justify why his lights were blinding people, and not have to let go of this kid giving him a hard time.
first off the kid stated he had his ID and didnt have to show it, then he lied and claimed he didnt have it and then he immediately admitted he did have it but didnt have to show it to the cop
now, how about you, being the expert on the law and obviously police procedures, tell us how the cop was "acting outside of his duty"
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it wasn't professional. it was Prisoner style tactics of berate and secure, and then ultimately kill.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839919 - 06/21/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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how did the cop escalate things?
by providing no juncture to the kid ultimately being correct. his lights WERE blinding people, including the kid, and that's why the kid beamed him, to warm him... not to commit a crime. it was a shaft if i've ever saw one.
The cop doesn't need to offer any explanation about his car, the kid does need to comply, he didn't.
nah. he didn't need to because he didn't do anything wrong.
and the cop DID in fact offer an explanation, because he knew his fucking car was already blinding people on the road. you'd probably comply with a cop shoving his baton where it don't shine.
It doesn't matter if a person did nothing "wrong", that can be settled at a later date, he needs to comply, stop giving out advice that's going to get another retard killed.
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Your missing the point. It wasn't his flashing his beams that was the problem. Yes it got him pulled over, but that alone would have resulted in nothing more than his I'D being checked. Possibly a 5 minute wait while they ran his ID to check for warrants, then a "drive safe, have a nice night"
But no, this dip shit caused problems. Refused to present license and registration. Refused to co-operate, resisted arrest, assaulted an officer, then attempted to flee the scene of a crime.
To claim he was shot for "warning a cop about his lights" is just willful ignorance.
i'm not missing the point, i've already addressed this, dude. not having a license for a misdemenor charge is more than likely a warning at best... didn't the cop in the video even say "it could have gone alot different"? he didn't didn't he? because that to me says "if you hadn't annoyed me things could be a lot different and i could have let you of with a warning".
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839924 - 06/21/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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why? I'm not a dumbass that refuses to hand my license and insurance to a cop when asked, I dont like and claim I left them at home and then admit that I do have them but I dont have to show them to a cop because I KNOW MY RIGHTS
so who cares the kid was a dumbass and he got killed. point is, the cop had no right no handle the situation like he did. he provoked. not the kid. the kid opened his mouth. the cop tried to drag the kid out, with no backup (which isn't proper procedure) and then fuck everything up his dumbass was trying to do...arrest a kid for annoying him.
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oh, so now you're a legal expert... to the contrary, when you're driving a car you are required to show a license to a cop when asked if you refuse or fail to produce that ID then the cop does have the right to haul your ass to the police station to make a positive ID, that can take days... maybe you should have a clue before you take up the argument... I dont know why I say it because you never have in the past
blah blah blah, it's also a warning to most officers, and to officer's with any decency, they wouldn't kill someone over it.
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really and you pulled this right out of your ass? I saw a cop that was doing what cops do but was actually being pretty cool about it until the youtube legal expert in his little pot filled head spoke up
nah, i've examined it pretty thoroughly by now. the cop clearly had a chip on his shoulder if you weren't a baton loving lovely person and had ears to listen to what was recorded between the two.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839925 - 06/21/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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He could have driven away at anytime. When is the right time to subdue him, do you think this retard would have behaved differently with two cops instead of one? I doubt it, he was non-compliant.
the cop had his license. he couldn't have gotten far. if he started a high speed pursuit, then i could see why he'd need to be taken down. not for, umm... nothing, but the cop's poor headlight function blinding people on the road. no, *pats on head* that's the cops' fault sweety pie.
the cop shot him for attacking him, self defense is a simple law to understand
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839933 - 06/21/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your missing the point. It wasn't his flashing his beams that was the problem. Yes it got him pulled over, but that alone would have resulted in nothing more than his I'D being checked. Possibly a 5 minute wait while they ran his ID to check for warrants, then a "drive safe, have a nice night"
But no, this dip shit caused problems. Refused to present license and registration. Refused to co-operate, resisted arrest, assaulted an officer, then attempted to flee the scene of a crime.
To claim he was shot for "warning a cop about his lights" is just willful ignorance.
i'm not missing the point, i've already addressed this, dude. not having a license for a misdemenor charge is more than likely a warning at best... didn't the cop in the video even say "it could have gone alot different"? he didn't didn't he? because that to me says "if you hadn't annoyed me things could be a lot different and i could have let you of with a warning".
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Your missing the point. It wasn't his flashing his beams that was the problem. Yes it got him pulled over, but that alone would have resulted in nothing more than his I'D being checked. Possibly a 5 minute wait while they ran his ID to check for warrants, then a "drive safe, have a nice night"
But no, this dip shit caused problems. Refused to present license and registration. Refused to co-operate, resisted arrest, assaulted an officer, then attempted to flee the scene of a crime.
To claim he was shot for "warning a cop about his lights" is just willful ignorance.
i'm not missing the point, i've already addressed this, dude. not having a license for a misdemenor charge is more than likely a warning at best... didn't the cop in the video even say "it could have gone alot different"? he didn't didn't he? because that to me says "if you hadn't annoyed me things could be a lot different and i could have let you of with a warning".
And to me that says "If you hadn't been a dumb ass and just obeyed the law you wouldn't have put me in a situation where this happened."
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: qman]
#21839934 - 06/21/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter if a person did nothing "wrong", that can be settled at a later date, he needs to comply, stop giving out advice that's going to get another retard killed.
Stop spouting fascist rhetoric that is going to enable more police to get away with murder.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21839935 - 06/21/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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the kid looks like he reacted by attacking him, yes. i'm not arguing that he didn't. i'm saying the cop fucked up from the get go. and you're all like "durr" bashing your arms against your sides, because you think that a cop blinding people on the road is A-OK!
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And to me that says "If you hadn't been a dumb ass and just obeyed the law you wouldn't have put me in a situation where this happened."
yeah, well, like i said, the kid was stupid for not having his ID. but the cop was also stupid for blinding people on the road and then pulling THEM over. you blind people on the road, YOU'RE the one who gets pulled over, in the world of sensible people.
the kid was railroaded, end of story.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839945 - 06/21/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Straight up though, that kid really did have a chip on his shoulder and thought he could find a loop hole around the laws and get away without complying with the police.
He didn't offer license in registration, he refused to get on the ground and put his hands behind his back, he resisted, he had a really bad attitude and he fled from the scene. Not a good look for the last few minutes of that kids life. It all could have been avoided if he didn't have a "I am better then the law" attitude. Attacking cops is never okay and it sucks that had to happen but he sealed his own fate sadly.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21839948 - 06/21/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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He could have driven away at anytime. When is the right time to subdue him, do you think this retard would have behaved differently with two cops instead of one? I doubt it, he was non-compliant.
the cop had his license. he couldn't have gotten far. if he started a high speed pursuit, then i could see why he'd need to be taken down. not for, umm... nothing, but the cop's poor headlight function blinding people on the road. no, *pats on head* that's the cops' fault sweety pie.
the cop shot him for attacking him, self defense is a simple law to understand
unless you're canadian, it's like being the 'special' little brother of the US
Now now pris. Don't go painting all Canadians with the same brush. Our little friend here clearly just drank too much antifreeze as a child.
Also canadas self defense laws are weird, but they do exist. I got let off on self defense for 3 counts of assault and 5 counts of assault with a deadly weapon. So it does work... Although up here your better off killing your attacker than just wounding them. Crown doesn't push as hard for a conviction if they don't have witnesses
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21839949 - 06/21/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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first off the kid stated he had his ID and didnt have to show it, then he lied and claimed he didnt have it and then he immediately admitted he did have it but didnt have to show it to the cop
now, how about you, being the expert on the law and obviously police procedures, tell us how the cop was "acting outside of his duty"
he was acting outside his duty, because not producing an ID does not warrant conflict with the subject. it requires back up, if the subject isn't cooperating, and then detainment, and arrest. the cop chose to go Rambo on the kid's ass, because of... well, mainly because he's an idiot. but also because of the mindfucked state of people such as people on the shroomery.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21839952 - 06/21/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Straight up though, that kid really did have a chip on his shoulder and thought he could find a loop hole around the laws and get away without complying with the police.
He didn't offer license in registration, he refused to get on the ground and put his hands behind his back, he resisted, he had a really bad attitude and he fled from the scene. Not a good look for the last few minutes of that kids life. It all could have been avoided if he didn't have a "I am better then the law" attitude. Attacking cops is never okay and it sucks that had to happen but he sealed his own fate sadly.
the cop sealed his fate by having blinding headlights that made many people try to warn the idiot officer, before he pulled them over for his bright ass blinding headlights almost killing people.
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Bitter Cactus said: Straight up though, that kid really did have a chip on his shoulder and thought he could find a loop hole around the laws and get away without complying with the police.
He didn't offer license in registration, he refused to get on the ground and put his hands behind his back, he resisted, he had a really bad attitude and he fled from the scene. Not a good look for the last few minutes of that kids life. It all could have been avoided if he didn't have a "I am better then the law" attitude. Attacking cops is never okay and it sucks that had to happen but he sealed his own fate sadly.
Only you would say that someone who was shot and killed on the spot "fled from the scene". I hope the catch him
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Re: Cop kills unarmed 17 year old kid. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21839956 - 06/21/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter if a person did nothing "wrong", that can be settled at a later date, he needs to comply, stop giving out advice that's going to get another retard killed.
Stop spouting fascist rhetoric that is going to enable more police to get away with murder.
If someone is wrongfully arrested of a crime, the court of law is where it should be settled, not the street, what's fascist about that concept.
Wrongful police charges get dismissed all the time, that's the way our legal systems works, it requires a little knowledge and patience.
The Utube and internet "I know my rights" crowd are getting retards killed, is there blood on your hands?
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