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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: lowbrow]
#21856620 - 06/25/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: I noticed that some people on this thread think that the South went to war over slavery. That is inaccurate.
The Civil War-1861
The Emancipation Proclamation-1863
Now who was arguing that it started over slavery?
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That is very good, BS, but what is going on today is utterly unrelated to slavery
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21856636 - 06/25/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How so? This whole thread and the entire debate about the flag in question regards the legacy of slavery and how we should deal with it as a nation.
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BlindSophist said: The Civil War was about slavery. It was about "states' rights" insofar as it was about whether or not states should have the right to uphold the legal institution of slavery. The southern states said yes, the northern states said no, and the southern states got knocked into line.
Then why is the Emancipation Proclamation two years after the start of the war?
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Slavery is utterly irrelevant to the state of the Negro community today. A flag is a piece of cloth. Which community do you think is more racist? Which community do you think is more tolerant of homosexuality? Which community do you think is more accepting of you?
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21856688 - 06/25/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: >Now who was arguing that it started over slavery?
the morons
like I said
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21856708 - 06/25/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The black community today is definitely affected by slavery. As long ago as the emancipation proclamation was issued, it was immediately followed by legal workarounds, private discrimination, and domestic terrorism aimed at stifling the economic and social progress of black communities and individuals which continues today.
The notion that black men can't be trusted with their freedom is alive and well today. People who should know better have been inculcated with it and take it for granted, because it is ingrained in our popular culture and disseminated via the media, whatever its political bent may be.
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: D.M.T]
#21856724 - 06/25/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice rebuttal
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BlindSophist said: The black community today is definitely affected by slavery. As long ago as the emancipation proclamation was issued, it was immediately followed by legal workarounds, private discrimination, and domestic terrorism aimed at stifling the economic and social progress of black communities and individuals which continues today.
The notion that black men can't be trusted with their freedom is alive and well today. People who should know better have been inculcated with it and take it for granted, because it is ingrained in our popular culture and disseminated via the media, whatever its political bent may be.
No. There is enough of them that they could have straightened out their own shit long ago. Instead they and their enablers have promulgated a culture of grievance and their so called leaders have made bank on it. The Democrat Party is invested in keeping a culture of dependents and will thus never actually enable the Negro community to succeed. Democrats need pissed off losers to keep getting elected. Success is their enemy.
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I think it represents what the Confederacy believed so stuff like slavery and oppression. Its not something that should be still around in the 21st century. Plus everyone I've met that has a confederate flag is a racist, judgmental, hateful, fundamentalist christian redneck asshole.
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: spixce]
#21856766 - 06/25/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love my stars and bars, I'm going to fly it knowing I'm causing butthurt to a lot of crybabies
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: spixce]
#21856767 - 06/25/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those things may well be true but it is not illegal to be "a racist, judgmental, hateful, fundamentalist christian redneck asshole." It just means you are a particular kind of asshole. I don't really have enough time left before bed to chronicle the myriad types of asshole there is. Perhaps someday I will write that fucking novel
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: myc_check1212] 1
#21856779 - 06/25/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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myc_check1212 said: I love my stars and bars, I'm going to fly it knowing I'm causing butthurt to a lot of crybabies
It doesn't make me butthurt. I laugh when I see the confederate flag. It makes me picture some redneck that's mad that the south lost the civil war.
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: spixce] 1
#21856922 - 06/25/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I laugh when I see the confederate flag. It makes me picture some redneck that's mad that the south lost the civil war.
Nailed it! I'm from the midwest and spent 7 yrs in Texas before moving to the NE a few years ago. I bet I heard "yankee this", "yankee that" 100's of times during my Texas stint.
Let it go guys!
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: DustyBottoms]
#21857009 - 06/25/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've lived in Texas all my life and have never once heard someone refer to anyone as a Yankee in a serious manner.
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Shroomslip]
#21857014 - 06/25/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have in Kentucky (barely south) and Tennessee.
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: D.M.T]
#21857038 - 06/25/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: I've lived in Texas all my life and have never once heard someone refer to anyone as a Yankee in a serious manner.
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D.M.T said: I have in Kentucky (barely south) and Tennessee.
Yep. Especially when referencing the media, sports teams, politicians, when I say "no" to something that is very southern and told I'm a snob.
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Dark_Star]
#21857090 - 06/25/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: It's flying over a memorial for dead confederate soldiers, not over the capital anymore.
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#21857142 - 06/25/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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when we went into the civil war, the south simply wanted more votes. one of the ways they sought to get them was to allow black people to vote.
the war was fought....
and in the end, black people were given the right to vote.
Lincoln only freed the slaves in the south...which was one of the moves that was requested by the south.
slaves in the north didn't get freedom until later.
many people think the war was fought over slavery, and i've heard it said MANY Times this week.
the confederate flag did not become a symbol of racism until later.
that said, most of the people flying it are racist fuckwads with less brains than a puffin on crack.
theres no reason to fly it, except to bother black people. or for historical purposes.
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