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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: qman]
    #21854205 - 06/25/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's a travesty....next they'll ban "Daisy Dukes":shrug:


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #21854252 - 06/25/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I mean, it just seems like what is hiding a flag away really going to do for racism anyway?  Pulling down a flag is as easy as pulling down your pants.  I just think its a bunch of leftests that want to do something trying to make themselves feel better. 

But honestly; what does pulling a flag down REALLY do for stopping what most logical people are starting to abhor?  (Which seems to be racism?)


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854285 - 06/25/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
I mean, it just seems like what is hiding a flag away really going to do for racism anyway?  Pulling down a flag is as easy as pulling down your pants.  I just think its a bunch of leftests that want to do something trying to make themselves feel better. 

But honestly; what does pulling a flag down REALLY do for stopping what most logical people are starting to abhor?  (Which seems to be racism?)




It accomplishes nothing, forcing "cultural diversity" down the throats of everyone in the year 2015 just shows what a failure the concept has become, let people live how they want and if that includes segregating themselves so be it.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods]
    #21854313 - 06/25/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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koods said:
Some of those communities have been Spanish speaking for centuries. There's an entire island of Americans who speak Spanish - Puerto Rico.






hahahaha... so when did puerto rico become a state, they're a protectorate, not a
US citizen... but hey, if you wanna be all technical, there's an entire contenent
of americans that speak spanish and portugese, it's called south america



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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: qman]
    #21854316 - 06/25/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have to completely disagree with that last statement.  I mean if anything we should promote diversity while still practicing tolerance.  But tolerance doens't mean we have to fucking mean we have to like everything other people do.

Segregation is paramount to racism IMHO.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854340 - 06/25/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
That's just fucking overkill.  Christsake people. :facepalm:  This PC bullcrap is getting out of hand.





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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21854359 - 06/25/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It's a symbol of unrepentant anti-black racism and white supremacy... anybody who denies this is fronting for those movements, whether they realize it or not.





Many blacks fought under the confederate flag.




Uh no, they didn't. They were in the confederate army as porters, cooks and ditch diggers.





Nope, not all of them.  There were roughly 3000 black confederate soldiers and not all of them were forced to do so.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854362 - 06/25/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
I have to completely disagree with that last statement.  I mean if anything we should promote diversity while still practicing tolerance.  But tolerance doens't mean we have to fucking mean we have to like everything other people do.

Segregation is paramount to racism IMHO.





so what you're saying is we need to kowtow to the butthurt bullies of the left

why can a person not have their own god damned views and opinions? this so called
tolerance means that someone will get special treatment, you want to be shit on
by some fucking PC left wing, feel free to be their flunkie but I say fuck them
and fuck everyone that demands that I be tolerant of everyone else when they
refuse to show any fucking tolerance for others.


let me ask, where's the tolerance for the racists/bigots?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854365 - 06/25/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
I have to completely disagree with that last statement.  I mean if anything we should promote diversity while still practicing tolerance.  But tolerance doens't mean we have to fucking mean we have to like everything other people do.

Segregation is paramount to racism IMHO.




People are segregated on many different levels that have nothing to do with race. It's based on religon, language, culture, wealth, sex, age, ect. why should free people be told to throw that away?

"we should promote diversity"

Why?  Humans can think for themselves, why promote a concept that ultimately results in more hostility and animosity, it makes no sense. How has this "diversity" been working the past 20 years?  Things are worse today.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21854378 - 06/25/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That guy is a boob.  I mean aren't we past the halfway point of helium anyway?  I love balloons, don't get me wrong, but aren't there far better uses of that noble gas than children's birthday parties?

@qman-I think people that lived in the 60's would disagree with you completely on that subject.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21854389 - 06/25/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Why should there be tolerance for bigots/racists?  They seem mostly just ignorant assholes to me for the most part. 

Not that I'm saying re-naming classes of people further and further really helps anybody other than the people that make more and more genre-specific PC names for classes of people (such as little people, or people with down syndrome) feel better about themselves rather than denote any real tolerance.  It's just convoluted bullcrap IMHO.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: qman]
    #21854461 - 06/25/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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qman said:
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TheGreenArrow said:
I mean, it just seems like what is hiding a flag away really going to do for racism anyway?  Pulling down a flag is as easy as pulling down your pants.  I just think its a bunch of leftests that want to do something trying to make themselves feel better. 

But honestly; what does pulling a flag down REALLY do for stopping what most logical people are starting to abhor?  (Which seems to be racism?)




It accomplishes nothing, forcing "cultural diversity" down the throats of everyone in the year 2015 just shows what a failure the concept has become, let people live how they want and if that includes segregating themselves so be it.




These are 2 very good posts and of course the pc sheep will be against those ideas since the major media doesn't like them. Hanging out with people like yourself is a normal human trait and we all do it. Don't negroes hang out mostly with negroes? Is that racism? Or only if whites do it?

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>I mean, it just seems like what is hiding a flag away really going to do for racism anyway?  Pulling down a flag is as easy as pulling down your pants.  I just think its a bunch of leftests that want to do something trying to make themselves feel better. 

Yep, take the easy and pointless way out, that's the pc way. This all started with the media, they give the orders and legions of brainwashed robots jump to follow their commands.

pris
>this is what happens when you let Retards(D) hold political office.

While I agree with the sentiment, I must say that there are lots of retards with the R label. Look who pushed the tpp on us, it was both of them.

Herb
>There were roughly 3000 black confederate soldiers and not all of them were forced to do so.

No one can be forced to fight in an army, not for long. You give someone a gun and treat them badly, what do you think will happen? They either run off with the gun or use it on you.

>>"we should promote diversity"

qman
>Why?  Humans can think for themselves, why promote a concept that ultimately results in more hostility and animosity, it makes no sense. How has this "diversity" been working the past 20 years?  Things are worse today.

Yes they are. We have more racial tensions than ever before, more violence, and ironically, more complaints from the usual suspects no matter how many handouts they get, no matter how much special treatment they get, its never enough and they bitch about racism. Race pimps like Sharpton, jesse jackass, and obumble fan the flames.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854463 - 06/25/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
Why should there be tolerance for bigots/racists?  They seem mostly just ignorant assholes to me for the most part. 

Not that I'm saying re-naming classes of people further and further really helps anybody other than the people that make more and more genre-specific PC names for classes of people (such as little people, or people with down syndrome) feel better about themselves rather than denote any real tolerance.  It's just convoluted bullcrap IMHO.




"Why should there be tolerance for bigots/racist?"

There's a clear double standard today when it comes to bigotry, the people that promote Affirmative Action are racist with their policy, yet for some reason they are tolerated!!

When minorities want and get special treatment based on race alone, that's racism, are you starting to see the blatant hypocrisy with the promotion of "cultural diversity'?

"They seem mostly just ignorant assholes to me"

Yes, the people that promote "cultural diversity" are the biggest racist assholes around, do you have the guts to call them out on it?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854484 - 06/25/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
That guy is a boob.  I mean aren't we past the halfway point of helium anyway?  I love balloons, don't get me wrong, but aren't there far better uses of that noble gas than children's birthday parties?

@qman-I think people that lived in the 60's would disagree with you completely on that subject.





no, there's still a helium shortage

now

HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT HANK JOHNSON THAT WAY, ARENT WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
TOLERANCE FOR THE IDIOTS OF THE WORLD THAT HAPPEN TO BE RUNNING THE COUNTRY

now for the sad news, start paying attention to these politicians and you'll
find that most of them are boobs and retards and mental "m" words


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21854496 - 06/25/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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TheGreenArrow said:
That's just fucking overkill.  Christsake people. :facepalm:  This PC bullcrap is getting out of hand.





this is what happens when you let Retards(D) hold political office. the town I
grew up in has become a complete shithole over the last 20 years because of
midgets and giants and god damned guam









That idiot is your representative?  :facepalm:


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854512 - 06/25/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
Why should there be tolerance for bigots/racists?  They seem mostly just ignorant assholes to me for the most part. 




are you telling me that homosexual arent assholes for demanding that I have
tolerance for them, what about the transgenders that demand I recognize their
gender while they refuse to recognize transracials, pretty fucking asshole
thing to do, what about the liberals that demand that I change my views to
align with theirs... all of these groups are bigoted assholes and every single
one of us falls into this category, you and I are bigoted assholes so why
should your group of bigots get special treatment over my group of bigots?


so if you want to promote tolerance, you need to have tolerance for the bigots
since it's clear that you are one as well. maybe it's time we promote racist
diversity instead of racial diversity since the latter still promotes
intolerance and bigotry


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854518 - 06/25/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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qman said:
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/general-lee-from-dukes-of-hazzard-losing-its-122294326432.html

No more Confederate flag on Dukes of Hazzard car.  :sad:



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TheGreenArrow said:
That's just fucking overkill.  Christsake people. :facepalm:  This PC bullcrap is getting out of hand.





I very rarely agree with people who are complaining about "PC bullcrap" but I agree with you this time, this is fucking stupid as shit. I thought the whole point of Dukes of Hazzard was that they are giant redneck good ole boys, not racially sensitive yankee liberals. Ugh.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21854520 - 06/25/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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TheGreenArrow said:
That guy is a boob.  I mean aren't we past the halfway point of helium anyway?  I love balloons, don't get me wrong, but aren't there far better uses of that noble gas than children's birthday parties?




You do realize that helium is not destroyed when it is put in a balloon and goes back into the atmosphere from which we can extract it again, right?
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@qman-I think people that lived in the 60's would disagree with you completely on that subject.




I found this interesting.  Self segregation

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/upshot/middle-class-black-families-in-low-income-neighborhoods.html?ref=topics&abt=0002&abg=1


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21854548 - 06/25/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't you see though, this whole thing is starting to becoming a joke making fun of itself its getting so convoluted and I think thats what Pris1 is trying to get at. (maybe?) 

Real talk here; one of my best friends uncle was a middle aged man with Downs that had an unbelievable love for Garth Brooks and the movie "Turner and Hooch".  Great guy!  (Should have seen the Christmas they gave him a "Chris Gaines" CD.  He Listened to the fist song and took it out and fucking smashed that shit to pieces screaming, "NO...Just NO!" :lol: That was absolutely one of the funniest things ever.)
  But he knew he was retarted and straight up would say, "I'm retarted".  It didn't hurt his feelings in the least.  The only people that this type of politically correct agenda serves are the people around this fact trying to create more and more convoluted names to call these groups of people in order to feel better about themselves.  Not any real social change in how we look at these people IMHE.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21854574 - 06/25/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

TheGreenArrow said:
That guy is a boob.  I mean aren't we past the halfway point of helium anyway?  I love balloons, don't get me wrong, but aren't there far better uses of that noble gas than children's birthday parties?




You do realize that helium is not destroyed when it is put in a balloon and goes back into the atmosphere from which we can extract it again, right?
Quote:



@qman-I think people that lived in the 60's would disagree with you completely on that subject.




I found this interesting.  Self segregation

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/upshot/middle-class-black-families-in-low-income-neighborhoods.html?ref=topics&abt=0002&abg=1



zappaisgod, where the fuck were you with that link when I was trying to tell moonrockmushy self imposed segregation is in fact a real thing? He was in complete denial and drug a simple statement out 5 or more pages..


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