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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21851047 - 06/24/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Why can't they teach themselves and each other?  Why do you think only whitey and/or the government can teach?



Probably the same reason you can't look decipher Russian by just looking at it. You need someone who knows already how to decipher the pronunciation of letters to teach you. Just staring at a bunch of symbols does jack shit unless you have someone already to pass it down. Slaves came from countries that for the most part did not even have written alphabets as far as I'm aware. They would need someone who knows how to read to teach them. This just so happened to be the white man.

Now that isn't quite so necessary with the advent of Rosetta Stone and such.




Well if I was Russian slave I'm sure I would know the spoken language and someone in my community would know the fucking alphabet.

This is ancient history and of absolutely no relevance to the current state of Negro educational achievement.



That's an underestimation. Suppression of the ability to learn makes it much more difficult. An African American church near me in Maysville, Kentucky was founded by a freed slave who wasn't allowed to learn to read by his plantation, and none of the slaves knew the alphabet. Teaching freed slaves to learn to read and write was his legacy that is being acknowledged in 2015. There must be something significant about a freed slave teaching other freed slaves to read if we're celebrating it as a fine day in history.

And of course it's irrelevant to now. No one said it was. The current state of 'Negro' educational achievement lies solely on the 'Negro'. You have seen me say that in numerous threads.

But we weren't talking about the current state. Stonehenge made the claim people don't do research anymore, even though we are living in what is dubbed the Age of Information and information-based industries are some of the highest payers.

As far as I've been alive everyone has always parroted the media. So I assumed he must have been talking about further back in history being the old days, but couldn't have been too much further because of slavery and all.

I guess what it boils down to is I'm trying to figure out when the good old days people did all their own research were. It hasn't been since I was alive, and now compared to when I was first born, people do more research now. So...

I mean.. I had a woman not paid to do so Google one of my screen names to see what came up and confronted me about it one time.. When the hell could you do that in pre-1990s history?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21851505 - 06/24/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Why can't they teach themselves and each other?  Why do you think only whitey and/or the government can teach?




if you bothered to read the statute that DMT posted, you would realize that they couldn't teach themselves or each other because the punishment was MUCH harsher than the punishment administered to "whitey"

that was one of your weakest posts ever. i expect so much more from you zappa




And when was this?  Do you really think they didn't do it?




ireally don't understand why youre coming to stoney's rescue on this one.  he made a stupid comment, and is unwilling to eat crow for some reason.  If you recall, i made a similar assertion about people having more political literacy back in the days, you called me out on it, and i acknowledged my mistake.  why should stonebrains be held to a lesser standard?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21851521 - 06/24/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh no.  I do believe I said they were always morons.  But what does this have to do with anything today?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21851615 - 06/24/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the little argument he and DMT are having is about a comment that stonebrains made about people in the "old days" doing their own research and not repeating what others have said.  rather than simply admit what a dumb thing that was to say, stoney has been trying to deflect with a bunch of unrelated arguments,and ad-hominem attacks on DMT for being a "liberal".  Wouldn't you say that he should just admit that he said something stupid, and move on to a better argument?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21852156 - 06/24/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wait, Stonehenge was calling DMT a liberal? :curbyourenthusiasm:

Anyway, here's some more proof for y'all that reality has a liberal bias: White Americans Are Biggest Terror Threat in U.S.: Study


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21852187 - 06/24/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Holy crap. I'm one of those


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods]
    #21852189 - 06/24/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Me too. :omgz:


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21852209 - 06/24/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Actual link

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White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.





Or is it science that has a liberal bias? :rolleyes:


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21852213 - 06/24/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh fucking puhleeze

The New America Foundation found that twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than by Muslim extremists since 9/11.

What percent of the population are Muslims and wouldn't you love to live under Sharia law vs Euro/US law.  Sometimes I wonder about you and whether you have any fucking clue

And then there is the Negro murder of other Negroes in the cities.  Baltimore comes particularly to mind since it is a little city and there has been a murder a day.  It aint whitey doing it or bearing it.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21852224 - 06/24/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh fucking puhleeze

The New America Foundation found that twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than by Muslim extremists since 9/11.

What percent of the population are Muslims and wouldn't you love to live under Sharia law vs Euro/US law.  Sometimes I wonder about you and whether you have any fucking clue

And then there is the Negro murder of other Negroes in the cities.  Baltimore comes particularly to mind since it is a little city and there has been a murder a day.  It aint whitey doing it or bearing it.




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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21852639 - 06/24/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

rather than have to admit his mistake, stonebrains decided to take his ball and go home.

:bathtub40lol:

now he'll never have to see big bad ballsalsa call him out on his bullshit anymore.  i can understand though, he seems like the "sensitive" type.

you can run away from me stonehenge, but you can't run away from your own willful ignorance.

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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21852716 - 06/24/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Wait, Stonehenge was calling DMT a liberal? :curbyourenthusiasm:



I never thought it would happen either. I'm not that shocked it would come from Stonehenge though. Pretty sure he's the guy who thinks being pro-drug legalization and pro-choice makes him a moderate. :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: D.M.T]
    #21852731 - 06/24/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Stonehenge is pro-choice? :what: I guess if you find a hypothetical median between that and his otherwise hardcore social conservatism you wind up with some sort of Frankencenter.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21852810 - 06/24/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Stonehenge is pro-choice? :what: I guess if you find a hypothetical median between that and his otherwise hardcore social conservatism you wind up with some sort of Frankencenter.




the guy is about as moderate as Mussolini


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21852864 - 06/24/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What if the fucktard in South Carolina had been wearing an American Flag or had one posted up behind him in his pics / videos? Would it still be as big a deal?

I think not.

The perception of the rebel flag as a racist symbol stirs the perverbial shit pot for actual dumb shit racists to use it as one.

Racists, and confederate flag haters, leave my rebel flag alone.

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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Pariahprose]
    #21852906 - 06/24/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i'm not particulary concerned with the flags use as a racist symbol. After all, racists will be racists, under that flag or some other one.:shrug:
I am much more concerned that there seem to be many people that harbor strong positive feelings towards a flag of rebellion against the United States.  As concerned as i am, i agree, that any private person should be allowed to fly that flag if they feel like it as long as the conform to the laws regarding flags in their area (no stadium sized flags in peoples front yards)  However, as much as i agree with individual 1rst amendment rights, I also feel that it is inappropriate for a Gov't building in the United Staes of America to fly a Confederate flag.  As for private businesses pulling confederate merch off the shelf, that is their right as private business. they can sell or not sell whatever they want. Let the Market decide right?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: ballsalsa]
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Pariahprose]
    #21854129 - 06/25/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What if the fucktard in South Carolina had been wearing an American Flag or had one posted up behind him in his pics / videos? Would it still be as big a deal?

I think not.

The perception of the rebel flag as a racist symbol stirs the perverbial shit pot for actual dumb shit racists to use it as one.

Racists, and confederate flag haters, leave my rebel flag alone.

#HeritageNotHate




Well said and true. This is just another excuse by the morons since they have no real reason to ban it they piggy back on emotion. Idiot obumble has of course already said his usual dumb stuff.

DMT, all I said was you were using left wing tactics namely guilt by association.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: qman]
    #21854199 - 06/25/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's just fucking overkill.  Christsake people. :facepalm:  This PC bullcrap is getting out of hand.


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