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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods]
    #21846516 - 06/23/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I stated history.  You question morals.





Because history's always factual.




Herbologist manufactures history. He posted that blacks fought for the confederacy a few pages back.



Is that true. I googled it but all I could find is that they were forced cooks and a few actually fought.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods] * 4
    #21846518 - 06/23/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't think anymore proof is required that the confederate flag is a racist symbol than the fact that the people defending it here are our local racists.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Ihateyou]
    #21846520 - 06/23/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Ihateyou]
    #21846527 - 06/23/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I stated history.  You question morals.





Because history's always factual.




Herbologist manufactures history. He posted that blacks fought for the confederacy a few pages back.



Is that true. I googled it but all I could find is that they were forced cooks and a few actually fought.




The confederacy allowed blacks to fight in the waning days of the war ( March 13, 1865). Claiming that blacks fought for the confederacy is simply revisionist history for racism apologists.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21846533 - 06/23/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fucking hell, here we go again. Just like Neil Young talking shit about the south without knowing a damn thing about it or putting in time at Muscle Shoals.

On a side note now that I know a bunch of you get yeasty over the Confederate flag I'll be sure to hang mine up now, and I'm a "Yankee"


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Ihateyou]
    #21846535 - 06/23/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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http://militaryhistorynow.com/2012/06/20/black-in-grey-did-african-americans-fight-for-the-confederacy/
I read that from this link




The served. As slaves. Herbologist will point to this and say "haha. Told you so."


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods] * 2
    #21846539 - 06/23/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Confederate flag I'll be sure to hang mine up now, and I'm a "Yankee"




that's even more retarded than a southerner sporting one.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods]
    #21846541 - 06/23/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"The confederacy allowed blacks to fight"...Allowed or forced? Can't imagine black people back in the day getting together to fight the north so they could remain slaves. Regardless of what "history" says.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods]
    #21846584 - 06/23/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I didn't think anymore proof is required that the confederate flag is a racist symbol than the fact that the people defending it here are our local racists.



:lolsy:  Really? :nojustno:


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21846596 - 06/23/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps he would be so kind as to name names.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #21846616 - 06/23/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Confederate flag I'll be sure to hang mine up now, and I'm a "Yankee"




that's even more retarded than a southerner sporting one.




Even more retarded to get your fallopian tubes in a twist over a flag!

So much yeast...


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: myc_check1212]
    #21846619 - 06/23/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Even more retarded to get your fallopian tubes in a twist over a flag!





further proving the point. that goes both ways, on both sides.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21846622 - 06/23/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Bout to say, I'm anything but racist.  I was adopted into a family of all sorts of races.  :lol:  Whatever he has to tell himself to sleep at night, though my opinion of Koods certainly changed with the "southerners are stupid and will pick up arms over anything" remark.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21846629 - 06/23/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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"southerners are stupid and will pick up arms over anything"




i hope that's just humor, you're definitely smarter than that koods. i'd hope.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: 1234go]
    #21846649 - 06/23/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

He's the one who spouted that gem. 

Look, did this war have to do with slavery?  Yes.  Was it the ONLY reason people faught it?  Hell no.  The only dog I have in this fight is this is a part of our history like it or not.  As stated earlier perhaps we should fold the Confederate flag and put it away.  Perhaps we should've made SC take that flag down immediately after the Civil War. In fact its a very defining moment and in order to move on we have to at least know WHY we faught in order to not reapeat it.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21846758 - 06/23/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I said ignorant rednecks. You're the one who translated that into southerners. It's a shame you view all southerners as ignorant rednecks. There are plenty of enlightened people in the south. :cookiemonster:

This is what I said: "How hard is it ever to get a bunch of ignorant rednecks to pick up a gun and fight?"


I don't appreciate being misquoted :crankey:


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21846817 - 06/23/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I see one side quoting history and facts, the other side parroting what they have been fed by the media that they accepted and never questioned.

We need to get rid of the dutch flag, usa flag, confederate, union jack, all flags of all countries and all groups since they all did bad things. Then everything will be peachy?

I saw a funny cartoon. it was Rachel dozelal saying I feel black, b jenner saying I feel like a woman and obumble sitting backward on a horse saying "I feel like a leader" Good stuff.

>Typical anti-american race divider and complainer.  Reap the benefits but bitch and moan about how it all started.

Yep





:lol: You're precisely the opposite of a valid source of history. Last time I got into an argument with you, you spent multiple pages copy pasting historical revisionist organizations linked to Storm Front and other white supremacist groups in an attempt to convince us that Eisenhower ran death camps post-WW2 that killed 15-20% of the German population. Hardly a reliable source. And I noticed that you failed to respond to my comment earlier



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It's a symbol of unrepentant anti-black racism and white supremacy... anybody who denies this is fronting for those movements, whether they realize it or not.





Many blacks fought under the confederate flag.




Call him on his pc bullshit. Good job. The pc crowd are the biggest racists of all and of course call everyone else a racist if they don't agree with the pc lies and crap.

Were those blacks white supremacists too? No one forced them to fight, they fought for what they believed in.





:lol: Too bad black confederate soldiers are almost entirely myths. There weren't very many of them and they came as slaves alongside their masters or they came as free men due to religious purposes (The Catholic Church at the time was sympathetic to the South's cause). There certainly weren't very many of them doing it voluntarily and especially few of them that had any true loyalty to the South. The Confederates didn't provide arms or uniforms...fuck, they didn't even authorize mustering up black people for the confederate army until the very last month of the war.




and instead resorted to your standard name calling. I don't suppose you actually have any good arguments to support your position that ISN'T blaming it on the evils of liberalism?


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21846866 - 06/23/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/06/22/the_confederate_flag_is_the_legacy_of_democrats_not_republicans

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The Confederate Flag Is the Legacy of Democrats, Not Republicans!




The racists in the South were Democrats, the Republicans led the civil war and the civil rights act against Democrat opposition.  These are facts.





I'm a little unclear on the specific dates, but wasn't the time period immediately surrounding the Civil War about when the Democratic and Republican parties switched their political roles (Democrats turning from small government to big government + traditional to socially progressive and vice versa for the Republicans)? I know the Republican party initially started out as a progression of the more liberal Whigs but I've honestly never read too much into the subject. I can't access the article right now but just the headline alone seems like a misrepresentation of the political situation, considering the Republican view now was the Democrat view at that point in time.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: Cj-B]
    #21846898 - 06/23/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It was the civil right act and voting rights act that pushed the southern racist wing of the Democratic Party over to the republicans. As Johnson said at the time "we (the democrats) have lost the south for a generation"

I have no idea why rush Limbaugh and Zappa would be proud of this part of the conservative's heritage. Yeah, you guys inherited our racists. Congrats.


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Re: What do you think of the Confederate flag? [Re: koods] * 1
    #21847057 - 06/23/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:hmm: Kind of funny that states more populace of whites voted to count blacks as 2/3 of a person to retain more controll of congressional seats. The Confederate flag makes no one anymore racist than flying a jolly Roger makes you a pirate.


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