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How many grams for first trip?
    #21832356 - 06/20/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Two questions.

1. I've heard that you need to respect the mushroom. Everything I've read so far backs that up. So my first dose is going to be low, out of respect. I'm not going to dive off into something I know nothing about, and take 3 or 4 grams. But I can't seem to decide on how much to take. I think it needs to be either 1.5 grams, 2.0 grams, or 2.5 grams. I've always felt like medicines, and other substances have a different effect on me that than they do others. Like the effect is way stronger. Take weed for example. I don't get enjoyment out of that stuff. It takes me sky high, and every time it gives me a headache. I'll laugh so long and so hard that just the laughter will give me a headache. I don't like weed. At all. Only exception being when its mixed with alcohol. I get a different experience using it that way. That's just one example.

2. What is the absolute perfect way to make it into tea? Something about heating the water to 250 degrees, stirring in the dried shrooms, etc. But what is the whole process? Down to the letter. I don't want to lose any psilocybin. I don't want to think that I'm taking say... 2.5 grams, and only really be taking 1.5 grams, or 2.0 grams. What is the absolute perfect method of making the mushroom tea?

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832417 - 06/20/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you feel the highest you want to take is 2.5 grams, then take 2.5 grams. I would say take 3.5 grams. Have a good set and setting. Take it on an empty stomach. No need to make a tea.

If 1 hit of cannabis is not too strong for you, keep some around during the trip to take small hits when things get hairy.

Breathe deeply in difficult moments and don't curl up into the fetal position.

Have a good trip!

Congratulations on deciding to use mushrooms!


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: JeNousAime]
    #21832503 - 06/20/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I have a sensitive stomach that gets all bent out of shape about stuff that I don't think it should. So I'm not going to risk the nausea, and go ahead and make it into a tea. Or at least, I'm going to try to keep the risk of nausea down lower. I can't imagine a worse time than tripping balls and feeling like I'm going to puke. Not for me.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832562 - 06/20/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hello there, how are you?

If weed is too strong for you then mushrooms aren't going to be any bit easier to handle. Not that you have to be afraid but you have to be careful & responsible. If you get that spun from smoking reefer then expect to go to the moon with mushrooms. 2.5 grams of mushrooms is not a low dose so I highly suggest that you don't do that much. In your situation, I would definitely not go any higher than 1.5 grams. Better safe than sorry.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832564 - 06/20/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Tea is the way to go, I make mine by heating however much water you want to drink to where it is just steaming in the pot turn it off and add your hand crushed shrooms or finely chopped if theyre fresh, let it steep for 45 mins to an hour (probably overkill but rather not waste anything) and a lemons worth of juice and your favorite tea bag, steep to as strong as you want it then strain your shrooms and sweeten to taste.

If this is going to be your first psychedelic experience id say go for 1.5g to get a feel for things then take yourself as far as you want in the future, find the best set and setting that works for you and you'll be able to go deeper and deeper into your mind. I find 1 month between trips is ideal but everyones different. Good luck in your endeavor.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lovesquare]
    #21832594 - 06/20/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you can always eat more later


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21832689 - 06/20/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Hello there, how are you?

If weed is too strong for you then mushrooms aren't going to be any bit easier to handle. Not that you have to be afraid but you have to be careful & responsible. If you get that spun from smoking reefer then expect to go to the moon with mushrooms. 2.5 grams of mushrooms is not a low dose so I highly suggest that you don't do that much. In your situation, I would definitely not go any higher than 1.5 grams. Better safe than sorry.





Thanks for the relies everyone.

But I wouldn't say that I can't really handle the weed. I'm not sure if that's the right word. At this point, I can handle it. I just don't like having to. It becomes a bit of a stressful chore, I don't find it at all relaxing. In fact I find it somewhat nerve wracking. It just won't leave me alone, it feels like the whole time its bothering me or hounding me. I find alcohol to be a much more relaxing drug. I don't drink very often, but when I do, I can handle myself and I know how much to drink and when to stop drinking. If I go to far though, the alcohol starts harassing me like the weed does. I don't know if any of this makes sense, its just how I feel about it.

But I guess its a good thing I'm not looking for recreation. I'm looking for a spiritual experience, not to have a good time or chill out like people who do weed or drink alcohol.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21832747 - 06/20/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take a bit of ginger for your gut and eat 2 grams a half an our later. I would eat the whole fruits for your first trip for a nice slow "come up" and good duration. Teas can come on fast and hard and not last as long. Have a nice trip!


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21832795 - 06/20/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

@ OP I got a great chocolate recipe in my journal

mushroom chocolates, takes 2min to make on the stove


best part is it removes 100% of nausea in the trip, so much better trip usually


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: filthyknees]
    #21832812 - 06/20/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1) I'd suggest 5g in a Lemon Tek.

2) I'd love to see someone "heat water to 250 degrees" for any type of tea ("pour it just before boiling; don't burn it").

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava] * 1
    #21832825 - 06/20/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Eat 2 grams


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #21832936 - 06/20/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I totally forgot about the tea part... if your dead set on making the tea then I'd recommend only one gram to start with & if you're feeling confident then 1.5 grams but no more. I really would not suggest going any higher at all because it will kick in very fast & hit you hard.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21835388 - 06/21/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm. So tea has its disadvantages. Can anyone confirm that ginger will help to prevent the nausea? What about something like tums, or pepto bismol?

Is there a way that I could still use the tea, but have it come on slowly as though I were eating them? Maybe I could just sip the tea, over 30 minutes, or 1 hour, until I'd drank the whole cup. Perhaps drinking the tea, can be drawn out over a long period of time, and that might help the trip come on more slowly?


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21835405 - 06/21/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah you could sip and down it within 30 minutes to avoid a tolerance build up and you would start feeling it about the same time you finished it. Then the effects would get slightly stronger until you peak and ride the waves.  Ginger will help with nausea but you most likely will avoid it all together by straining the mushrooms from the tea. Tea is gentle on the stomach all though i prefer lemonade but it's up to you. I wouldn't suggest lemonade teking your first time, cause that will hit even harder. Ginger tea and you'll have a wonderful experience, just focus on set and setting.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21835422 - 06/21/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for all the help. I really can't thank everyone enough for this.

So the tea trips will be shorter? About how much shorter? Maybe cut in half? So instead of 8 hours, I might trip for only 4 hours? That might be better for me, for the first time. Just to sort of ease into this, you know?


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21835789 - 06/21/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A mushroom trip is not 8 hours-unless you're counting the very subtle effects a couple hours after you're done tripping, as in the "afterglow" sort of feeling. Expect to trip for approximately 3-5 hours & have all effects diminish entirely by about 8 hours after taking the mushrooms.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21835860 - 06/21/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the info. So the tea trip then, instead of being 3 to 5 hours, would be more like 1.5-3hours? Just as a rough estimate, of course.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21838643 - 06/21/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Come up in 30 mins (less if you were to drink it all at one time) peak for about 2 hours come down for 1 hour so about 3.5-4 hours total trip time.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lovesquare]
    #21840563 - 06/22/15 03:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks again. To me, that sounds a lot more reasonable for a first time.

Well since my questions on that have been answered, I may as well just keep asking more.


If you take the top off your growing tube twice a day in order to fan out the carbon dioxide, doesn't that completely disperse all the humidity? I guess its not really a concern, but does the humidity build back up to near 100% almost immediately? 


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21840901 - 06/22/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1.5g of potent cubes, and then another .5-1g if after an hour you're ready to go much deeper. Keep in mind that that gram can make a WORLD of a difference. So make sure to truly evaluate how hard you're tripping before eating more. I say start with 1.5g because 1.5g of say recently dried, properly stored penis envy grown with love will do a lot more than a 2.5 of horrible stored shrooms grown out of greed.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: HalfOwlHalfShroom]
    #21840908 - 06/22/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think my first trip was either 3-3.5g

and next was 4g


both were pleasant, but intense, I had done LSD before
I took them as chocolates - better trip

I think they saying goes that 3.5g is the normal tripdose "just eat the 1/8th" , but with that you gotta make sure of your setting

if you take under 3.5 you may not trip in many cases


If I am cautious with beginners I would offer them 2-2.5g, but for a real normal trip I would offer 3.5g


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: JeNousAime]
    #21841265 - 06/22/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would say 3 to 3.5.  Personally I find the easiest way to take them is simply eat the dry and whole (they are like funny tasting wafers) with something yummy like chocolate fudge etc.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21841274 - 06/22/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Goodness, forgot to add.  Ginger tablets are your friend, I find if you take them 20 mins before the shrooms I NEVER get any nausea at all but if I don't take ginger I feel sick and bloated while coming up.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21841284 - 06/22/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1 gram if youre worried half 8th if youre ready. i thinks that's a better recommendation for beginners than just telling them to start with half an eighth some people don't understand what it is going to be like on them mentally.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21841437 - 06/22/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

3 to 3.5 grams of mushrooms for a first timer is not a good idea. That is not a light dose. OP you're going to do what you want but I'd recommend staying in the 1 to 1.5 gram range. Be safe.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #21841454 - 06/22/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I took over 20g of truffles on my first trip, I was off my head but I had a great time.  I do have the most laid back easy going personality ever though!


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: sarahnya]
    #21841955 - 06/22/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

3- 3.5 ...lemon tek.....:bigyesnod:


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21841958 - 06/22/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1 gram is all you need.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Blazer420]
    #21843204 - 06/22/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I got to say, as a somewhat new user myself this thread is entirely useless to O.P

5 grams? Lemon Tek? Are you all fucking serious? This guy just said he is sensitive to many drugs, medications, weed, Etc. If he's (she's) sensitive to those you can damn right assume psychedelics will have a significant impact on him/her.

I know for many of you who have been taking shrooms or other psychedelics for years or even months 3.5 grams is a totally normal dose. But this is not true for a inexperienced tripper.

I tried 1 gram at first to see how I would respond, physically, mentally, nausea Etc.

After that went smoothly I waited 2 weeks and consumed about 2 grams dry equivalent. I ate 17 grams fresh Cubensis.

I will add that fresh shrooms have way less potential for an upset stomach than dried shrooms.

I had a great trip and already have been, and will continue to, recommend no more than 2.5 grams dry as a starter dose. Why risk over doing itu your first time? You have your whole life to work your way up. Start small and be safe.

My trip report is below if you're interested.

http://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/37z9rp/mushrooms_thirsty_water_bottle_and_boiling/


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Jsneeb]
    #21844668 - 06/23/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Some don't like rollercoasters

Some like the big rollercoaster

Some like the biggest rollercoaster


I have never seen anyone take 1-1.5g before personally
I usually hear 2-2.5g for beginners, but make your own research


There is a reason 3.5g is the normal dose for most people, 1/8th, it's because you cannot trip on less usually
Take less and you get no visuals and no trip usually, maybe slight color enhancement that's all


But a sensitive mind can trip on anything, even water
The 3.5g is for average users, not sensitive minds that think they trip on water or weed

It is always a good idea to start low, but 1g that's just too low IMO
I would start with 2g at least..


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lessismore]
    #21844771 - 06/23/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You've probably already tripped but this is still relevant.

Enjoying a trip is all about the setting/environment.

If you feel bad vibes while on shrooms you won't have a good time.

Be with people you trust, be in a place with privacy, have food/music on hand, BE COMFORTABLE!


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: sudly]
    #21845247 - 06/23/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The only time I've taken less than 3.5 grams I really regretted it.  I felt let down that I didn't capture the entire experience.  I still had a good time but I felt like I kept waiting and waiting for it to "kick in" which it never did.

Obviously this is very subjective on many different variables, however I certainly happy I started with a solid 3.5 grams even for my first trip.  As long as the set and setting are correct you should be fine.  My first trip with 3.5 couldn't have been more perfect.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #21847355 - 06/23/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

80g fresh cubes, went for a 3 hour walk shirtless in the sun with pink floyd albums! ^_^

one of my best trips ever.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: sudly]
    #21847367 - 06/23/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

3.5.

Edit: Don't be intimidated by the taste. They're not that bad they taste like Earthy/dirty rice cakes


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21847384 - 06/23/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

micro dosing may be a good way to start if you think youre sensitive OP.

low doses you really have to focus on the effects and I don't see how anyone could have a "bad" trip from low doses like that.

1 g or less is highly recommended if you are nervous or just don't know how they will affect you.

I've had 8th trips that differ even though they are the same dose.

I have micro dosed a few times and really enjoyed the VERY subtle affects I had, I also really enjoyed the strong trips.... I just really enjoy shrooms....
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3.5.

Edit: Don't be intimidated by the taste. They're not that bad they taste like Earthy/dirty rice cakes




first shrrooms I ever ate tasted a little like peanuts. chewing felt sort of like I was chewing on peanut shells.

those were BOMB ass shrooms too. I wish I still had that connect :makesmecry:


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Trichome_Delta9] * 1
    #21847469 - 06/23/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Really? To me they even have the texture of rice cakes. Another time tho I got these kick ass boomers that tasted like dirty cinnamon toast crunch.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21847507 - 06/23/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I get the rice cakes texture with most of my boomers I eat. often they taste like cow dung as well.

I was lucky my first time with these shrooms.

the caps and stems were PERFECT. gold ass caps and felt like they popped in my mouth when I took my first bite.

it was that one time that they tasted somewhat good and the texture wasn't bad.

if I find shrooms like that ever again I wont ever let that connect go.

I was laughing hysterically and bouncing my body off my sisters bed....


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21847717 - 06/23/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I prefer fresh because from experience they give more visuals. + they've oxidized less.

I don't taste them though because I just swallow them with some sweet cordial. If you cut up the shrooms into bite size portions it's easy to swallow them whole without having to taste them.

I used to dry them out, powder them then mix into into chocolate pudding but it became too much at doses of 3g+


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: sudly]
    #21848013 - 06/23/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1.5-2.5 depending if your big or small IMO, low is the way to go if you don't know how your going to react. go big or go home is for the people locked up in the ER after getting chased naked by cops down the street while getting tazed and your stomach forcefully pumped. lmao


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Hypnotoad420]
    #21848111 - 06/23/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That only happens to people who aren't mentally prepared for the drug and don't know what to expect.

I took 4g my first time and had a wonderful time, I did however study their effect and read several trip reports before doing so.

In saying so though, most people really don't prepare themselves at all which is why we have cases of naked dumb asses running amuck on shrooms.

I don't see why someone would get their stomach pumped unless they were dumb enough to eat unidentified mushrooms.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: sudly]
    #21848199 - 06/23/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder what makes a person get naked. On shrooms im usually extremely comfortable with nakedness but I never just wanted to strip down and run around the streets. I think its pretty funny that it happens. It might be my dark sense of humor tho.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: HalfOwlHalfShroom]
    #21849007 - 06/24/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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1.5g of potent cubes, and then another .5-1g if after an hour you're ready to go much deeper. Keep in mind that that gram can make a WORLD of a difference. So make sure to truly evaluate how hard you're tripping before eating more. I say start with 1.5g because 1.5g of say recently dried, properly stored penis envy grown with love will do a lot more than a 2.5 of horrible stored shrooms grown out of greed.





How would you store them? I was told a ziplock bag at room temperature is fine. Once dried, of course.


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    #21849564 - 06/24/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You never know how you are going to react your first time. Always better safe then sorry especially when partaking in such a powerful mind altering tool that from the time you ingest to finish have little to no control over, yeah it happened to a friend of mine that was taken to the hospital because he freaked out and the cops were called the dumbass people at the hospital thought pumping his stomach would stop the trip.

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    #21850261 - 06/24/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You never know how you are going to react your first time. Always better safe then sorry especially when partaking in such a powerful mind altering tool that from the time you ingest to finish have little to no control over, yeah it happened to a friend of mine that was taken to the hospital because he freaked out and the cops were called the dumbass people at the hospital thought pumping his stomach would stop the trip.

I'm not trying to instill fear, only respect and caution





Bet there are a ton of stories like that. The ignorant thinking something needs to be done if someone is having a bad trip.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21851583 - 06/24/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

something does need to be done, unfortunately the only ones who would be conceivably capable are those who have undergone the same experience not those completely ignorant to it( in my opinion the greatest healing potential with psychedelics is here ). thus though the immense importance of set and setting is again reinforced if your truly trying to get anything at all out of it. you set yourself up for success or failure with a small portion of unpredictability thrown in but if you can accept yourself and your situation there is a good chance you will find success.

IME at first I was shown all my bullshit to my face and had to deal with it, over time had to integrate it, apply both sides, and then consciously remain aware of which vibration I was using. If you cannot already eventually you will realize you are split in two and it takes time in separateness to realize you were always one. two parts of the same and our origins is purely of divine essence. neither is bad neither is wrong or right it just is. and so are you. that's just a boundary to free yourself from. Once you start to just Be You regardless of what anyone else might think synchronicities will be as regular as breathing, but that's easier said then done of course. And that's where psychedelics have come into play.

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21852053 - 06/24/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I wonder what makes a person get naked. On shrooms im usually extremely comfortable with nakedness but I never just wanted to strip down and run around the streets. I think its pretty funny that it happens. It might be my dark sense of humor tho.




One comedian on TV talked about taking shrooms in Amsterdam. He said he took his clothes off cause he was in a beautiful park and wanted to *really* enjoy nature and was having an awesome trip. His thing he said was, talking to the blades of grass: "Take care of my shoes for me".


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    #21853094 - 06/24/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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something does need to be done, unfortunately the only ones who would be conceivably capable are those who have undergone the same experience not those completely ignorant to it( in my opinion the greatest healing potential with psychedelics is here ). thus though the immense importance of set and setting is again reinforced if your truly trying to get anything at all out of it. you set yourself up for success or failure with a small portion of unpredictability thrown in but if you can accept yourself and your situation there is a good chance you will find success.

IME at first I was shown all my bullshit to my face and had to deal with it, over time had to integrate it, apply both sides, and then consciously remain aware of which vibration I was using. If you cannot already eventually you will realize you are split in two and it takes time in separateness to realize you were always one. two parts of the same and our origins is purely of divine essence. neither is bad neither is wrong or right it just is. and so are you. that's just a boundary to free yourself from. Once you start to just Be You regardless of what anyone else might think synchronicities will be as regular as breathing, but that's easier said then done of course. And that's where psychedelics have come into play.

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lovesquare]
    #21854393 - 06/25/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

"It's not the black side, it's not the white side, it's the interface"

Same goes for synchronicities, some only look for "good","positive" synchronicities

Faith in the universe


As for nothing is bad or wrong, I am not sure my shadow side or hitler's shadow side agrees with that...
Nothing is bad or wrong is usually anarchistic thinking, and that is a sacral chakra desire

In the greather scheme of things, nothing is bad or wrong
But you can certainly do stupid things with your shadow side if you don't balance your life


You are free to chose there, the shadow side has many pleasures to teach us, the pleasure of pain and pain to others

Nobody is forcing you to be good, but choosing the shadow side is just stupid because one is much more
The shadow side says you are your desires, you are worth more than others etc. - plain ignorance

Sure I suppose ignorance is good in the grand scheme of things, but we certainly shouldn't strive for it

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If nothing is bad or wrong, let's not learn from our mistakes
Let's continue our path for eternity, lets live in ignorance
Ignorance doesn't exist after all
So we cannot make mistakes
Hitler just was, he didn't make mistakes, he should have done like he did
Just here to balance the equation
He shouldn't have learned from his mistakes and stopped in time

your pain becomes my gain


The brain can relativize goodness , but the heart knows goodness


The human is a spiritual being and should strive to learn from their mistakes, to make light from the dark, not to live for eternity as a fool

It is ones right to live as a fool, but it is not good

If there is no right and wrong, how can we know goodness, truth?
If there is no good or bad, how can we chose?


Why be less of a being than more of a being ? (when we chose hate over love we are less of a human)

That is stupidity..


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lessismore]
    #21854514 - 06/25/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you chose with your brain, nothing is good or bad
If you chose with the heart, many things are good or bad


You cannot live just as the brain
You cannot live just as the heart

Mind body spirit... , in your heart lies your spirit

If you want "right decisions" you better ask both your heart and mind, not just one of them

If I were to trust one it would be my heart, definitely not my brain - it will make anything good, as long as it itself gets what it wants

The brain is worth nothing without the heart IMO


brain without heart is anarchy, the belief that anyone should get what anyone wants, that there are no rules and no need for rules, that the most powerful should win

But maybe our society needs more than power... compassion i.e.

Then there can be right and wrong..


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lessismore]
    #21855969 - 06/25/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not everyone's path to the light will cross beams with your own. if it does not make sense to you then you are not meant to understand and that's ok too. What I mean is we as humans are given a great gift to be a pillar of light and throw it away most of the time to lower ourselves to vibrations more dense then our natural state. Society is guilty of this, Individuals are guilty of this, A lot of people on this website are guilty of this and myself included at times but that's ok too because its all just an experience and are reborn everyday. just like taking psychedelics life is its own trip man you must have figured that out by now? its all not real but if your pure in your intentions and hold the vibration of love and understanding then no matter what the outcome of the action it will all be the same and it will all be as it should as it is.

Morals and common sense unfortunately some of the most uncommon traits among us today but when speaking and interacting this should all be implied. if you don't hurt anyone or yourself could you think of a scenario in which "bad" could apply for any venue politics, exploration, economics, environmental, spiritual, psychedelics lol? there is always trouble in paradise so of course you can argue for arguments sake and use extreme's but dude that's part of the process that's stopping us from being able to spread love and light across the planet. stop expecting the worst stop assuming bad and be your own light it only works if we work together for we are individuals but we are also all the family of humans.

and if you don't believe me become a narcissist and take acid with the attitude life fucking sucks and it would be better to be dead like alex grey did :shrug:

See a wild extreme appears! :P

I'm not attacking you either dude none of this was directed 100% toward you; you have said some right on shit that for sure resonates with me, however if I may say you need to practice the ability to LET GO and learn to just BE. you will be surprised to find out who you really are when your not afraid to wear your true self on the surface rather then behind the many masks and dramas we normally use to hide behind :laugh:

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Hypnotoad420]
    #21856161 - 06/25/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Things are not just relative


You can chose to do good or bad to your body i.e.

You say if your intentions are pure, then it's ok to do Krokodil (it may first eat your flesh in 3 years)

As long as you hold love in your heart, then it's ok to destroy the body


You speak about not hurting -oneself- and others

How is drugs not hurting oneself?


It hurts ones thought processesses often, it can hurt ones body(smoking weed can, taking heroin has some effects too, or cocaine)

It often changes ones personality, drugs often do that, without the person being aware


Is that then love, love for oneself?
It is usually the opposite... carelessness, so it is not ok, people should be urged to not be careless about themselves, but we cannot stop them


I wouldn't urge anybody I know to smoke normal cigs, or weed. Because smoking is unhealthy to the body. If they chose, it's their own choice though.

Urging people to be careless 'all is ok', is carelessness IMO, and carelessness is not love

"Go ahead and use prostitutes, as long as you love it!"

That is carelessness too, there is right and wrong, and if you can see right, it is your duty to try and inform those you believe cannot see it , nonforcefully


There is a difference between 'just be' and 'be careless'

Weed often makes people careless in my experience, it changes people
Cigs can do that often too. That's why I have always asked people I know closely not to smoke normal cigs - they're unhealthy. Smoking is not love for ones body. It is their choice and I usually don't force them to stop unless I'm in a bad mood ;-)

I believe people can do what they want, but that as long as you are not in nirvana, away from this earth, there is right and wrong doing, right and wrong action.

Wrong action leads you towards carelessness, and any good soul should warn innocent / not too well thinking souls about dangers

You think we shouldn't warn each other? - not tell each other what is right and wrong?


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lessismore]
    #21856258 - 06/25/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I took between 5 and 5.5 grams my first time (can't remember). Was really intense but am glad that that was my first time. I got to start with a  full blown psychedelic trip rather than just put my toes into the water with low doses.

On the other hand , lower doses are much more tame(obviously) and would be better if you don't like it. You can have a good experience on high dose- but its much more unpredictable with it being your first time. So I would recommend something like 2.5g for your first time.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lessismore]
    #21857300 - 06/25/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Things are not just relative


You can chose to do good or bad to your body i.e.

You say if your intentions are pure, then it's ok to do Krokodil (it may first eat your flesh in 3 years)

As long as you hold love in your heart, then it's ok to destroy the body


You speak about not hurting -oneself- and others

How is drugs not hurting oneself?


It hurts ones thought processesses often, it can hurt ones body(smoking weed can, taking heroin has some effects too, or cocaine)

It often changes ones personality, drugs often do that, without the person being aware


Is that then love, love for oneself?
It is usually the opposite... carelessness, so it is not ok, people should be urged to not be careless about themselves, but we cannot stop them


I wouldn't urge anybody I know to smoke normal cigs, or weed. Because smoking is unhealthy to the body. If they chose, it's their own choice though.

Urging people to be careless 'all is ok', is carelessness IMO, and carelessness is not love

"Go ahead and use prostitutes, as long as you love it!"

That is carelessness too, there is right and wrong, and if you can see right, it is your duty to try and inform those you believe cannot see it , nonforcefully


There is a difference between 'just be' and 'be careless'

Weed often makes people careless in my experience, it changes people
Cigs can do that often too. That's why I have always asked people I know closely not to smoke normal cigs - they're unhealthy. Smoking is not love for ones body. It is their choice and I usually don't force them to stop unless I'm in a bad mood ;-)

I believe people can do what they want, but that as long as you are not in nirvana, away from this earth, there is right and wrong doing, right and wrong action.

Wrong action leads you towards carelessness, and any good soul should warn innocent / not too well thinking souls about dangers

You think we shouldn't warn each other? - not tell each other what is right and wrong?




your not reading my posts. you keep using extremes and avoiding common sense by saying exactly what I predicted lowering your vibration taking the low view. I talk about common sense and morals, you bring up krokodil, prostitution and heroin then talk about how you force people to do things if your in a "bad mood" instead of leading by example.

I would never urge carelessness, I pray for realization and acceptance of the self and an open mind and encourage you to take back your conscious power for you have been asleep too long.

warning of the dangers of carelessness is exactly the point of my posts, please take the time to digest my words I think they might have escaped you at face value.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Hypnotoad420]
    #21857418 - 06/25/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You speak about "just be" and "let be"

I speak about let be not being acceptable at times in a society


Now make your point where you speak about  the dangers of carelessness? - I don't see it anywhere

You speak for carelessness it seems, how "all is relative" , "all is good"

No matter what the person does, it's their choice

If I cannot see "it is good", then I'm an idiot and I should just STFU because I dont understand

That's what you say

I chose to speak my mind, but apparently I'm not allowed to, because "all is relative" and I cannot comprehend

I won't accept any state of being if I feel I shouldn't - if I feel a person is careless


All is relative is good and fine in meditation and philosophy, but very unproductive in society, that's what I'm saying, but you won't accept that it seems


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lessismore]
    #21857553 - 06/25/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You speak about "just be" and "let be"

I speak about let be not being acceptable at times in a society


Now make your point where you speak about  the dangers of carelessness? - I don't see it anywhere

You speak for carelessness it seems, how "all is relative" , "all is good"

No matter what the person does, it's their choice

If I cannot see "it is good", then I'm an idiot and I should just STFU because I dont understand

That's what you say

I chose to speak my mind, but apparently I'm not allowed to, because "all is relative" and I cannot comprehend

I won't accept any state of being if I feel I shouldn't - if I feel a person is careless


All is relative is good and fine in meditation and philosophy, but very unproductive in society, that's what I'm saying, but you won't accept that it seems




:facepalm3: This is going in circles im not feeding into this. I swear if I didn't know better id think you were trolling me lol. Good luck in your travels


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    #21873344 - 06/29/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hypnotoad420 said:IME at first I was shown all my bullshit to my face and had to deal with it




This interests me greatly. Can you elaborate further on "you had to deal with it"?


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    #21874346 - 06/29/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hypnotoad420 said:IME at first I was shown all my bullshit to my face and had to deal with it




This interests me greatly. Can you elaborate further on "you had to deal with it"?




Yes, In my first two mushroom trips which were back to back from Saturday to Sunday 2.5g/2.5g were both completely mental no visuals and with some of the most uncomfortable physical sensations of being upside down in your own skin and pain it gives me shivers just thinking about it.

I approached the mushrooms with the experience of having tripped on LSD lightly(5 times or so) and smoked weed(daily) so they kicked the shit out of me and what entailed was 5 hours of me laying in my bed and sitting in my chair in my room with thoughts of death and suicide and everything in between at one point I blacked out while getting up and lost all control over my body for a moment and no matter how much I tried to just go with the experience my ego was relentless and unwavering to what I was going through and because of my ignorance I was "shown" hell. The aftermath lasted about a week of what I recognized as "Energetic healing sensations" which were felt in areas of the body I had already assumed needed healing which consisted of weird burning pains in the body and occasional sweats and only after I integrated those experiences and why I originally wanted to trip on mushrooms and why I trip in the first place I realized my error and shifted my vibration(lifestyle) which at the time I had let fall and since then every time I partake the experience just gets better and better and more profound because of the understanding me and the mushroom have. If that makes any sense? :shrug:

The mushroom wants to be experienced, but you have to be receptive. If that makes any sense? :shrug:

IMO this stuff can change lives( maybe the world ), with the right mindset anything is possible( within obvious physical reason and common sense if your desire is changing physical reality ).

I only say this because its happened to me and I have seen it happen to others first hand. the only problem is its hard to perpetuate the effects long term unless you really focus and ultimately let it happen and want it to happen. That's why a lot of people in the psychedelic community will refer to tripping as "Hitting The Reset Button"

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Hypnotoad420 said:IME at first I was shown all my bullshit to my face and had to deal with it




This interests me greatly. Can you elaborate further on "you had to deal with it"?




Yes, In my first two mushroom trips which were back to back from Saturday to Sunday 2.5g/2.5g were both completely mental no visuals and with some of the most uncomfortable physical sensations of being upside down in your own skin and pain it gives me shivers just thinking about it.

I approached the mushrooms with the experience of having tripped on LSD lightly(5 times or so) and smoked weed(daily) so they kicked the shit out of me and what entailed was 5 hours of me laying in my bed and sitting in my chair in my room with thoughts of death and suicide and everything in between at one point I blacked out while getting up and lost all control over my body for a moment and no matter how much I tried to just go with the experience my ego was relentless and unwavering to what I was going through and because of my ignorance I was "shown" hell. The aftermath lasted about a week of what I recognized as "Energetic healing sensations" which were felt in areas of the body I had already assumed needed healing which consisted of weird burning pains in the body and occasional sweats and only after I integrated those experiences and why I originally wanted to trip on mushrooms and why I trip in the first place I realized my error and shifted my vibration(lifestyle) which at the time I had let fall and since then every time I partake the experience just gets better and better and more profound because of the understanding me and the mushroom have. If that makes any sense? :shrug:

The mushroom wants to be experienced, but you have to be receptive. If that makes any sense? :shrug:

IMO this stuff can change lives( maybe the world ), with the right mindset anything is possible( within obvious physical reason and common sense if your desire is changing physical reality ).

I only say this because its happened to me and I have seen it happen to others first hand. the only problem is its hard to perpetuate the effects long term unless you really focus and ultimately let it happen and want it to happen. That's why a lot of people in the psychedelic community will refer to tripping as "Hitting The Reset Button"

:2cents:




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Hypnotoad420 said:
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Hypnotoad420 said:IME at first I was shown all my bullshit to my face and had to deal with it




This interests me greatly. Can you elaborate further on "you had to deal with it"?




Yes, In my first two mushroom trips which were back to back from Saturday to Sunday 2.5g/2.5g were both completely mental no visuals and with some of the most uncomfortable physical sensations of being upside down in your own skin and pain it gives me shivers just thinking about it.

I approached the mushrooms with the experience of having tripped on LSD lightly(5 times or so) and smoked weed(daily) so they kicked the shit out of me and what entailed was 5 hours of me laying in my bed and sitting in my chair in my room with thoughts of death and suicide and everything in between at one point I blacked out while getting up and lost all control over my body for a moment and no matter how much I tried to just go with the experience my ego was relentless and unwavering to what I was going through and because of my ignorance I was "shown" hell. The aftermath lasted about a week of what I recognized as "Energetic healing sensations" which were felt in areas of the body I had already assumed needed healing which consisted of weird burning pains in the body and occasional sweats and only after I integrated those experiences and why I originally wanted to trip on mushrooms and why I trip in the first place I realized my error and shifted my vibration(lifestyle) which at the time I had let fall and since then every time I partake the experience just gets better and better and more profound because of the understanding me and the mushroom have. If that makes any sense? :shrug:

The mushroom wants to be experienced, but you have to be receptive. If that makes any sense? :shrug:

IMO this stuff can change lives( maybe the world ), with the right mindset anything is possible( within obvious physical reason and common sense if your desire is changing physical reality ).

I only say this because its happened to me and I have seen it happen to others first hand. the only problem is its hard to perpetuate the effects long term unless you really focus and ultimately let it happen and want it to happen. That's why a lot of people in the psychedelic community will refer to tripping as "Hitting The Reset Button"

:2cents:




....set and setting bro....:awethumb:





and henceforth throughout the land let it be knowneth that under the conditions of set and setting one may hopeth to leadeth the path of good trippeth.

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Hypnotoad420]
    #21894943 - 07/03/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What are you guys' personal favorite set and setting? I'm thinking my living room, and some good tripping music playing on the TV. Also, a small reverse disco light, that sits on the coffee table, and the house lights dimmed down a good deal.

With a trusted sitter there. Does this sound like a good set and setting? I'm really comfortable this way. Nature and woodsy trips will be in the future when I have more experience. Don't feel comfortable doing that right away.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21895041 - 07/03/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds ideal to me.

Make sure your "sober sitter" isnt an asshole when u start tripping, hopefully hes a trustworthy, good friend.

And make sure random people dont show up. Keep it the two of you aand it should go just find :thumbup:


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21895293 - 07/04/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I ate 4 grams my first trip and it was a lot more than I expected I would say 2 grams is good for you since you can't handle weed well.

On my first trip I thought I was dieing I remembered reading about the salem witch trials and that they were all on some fungus that made you think you were possessed called ergot. I did a google search (its hard as fuck to use the web because the letters on the keyboards magically move) on ergot poison and saw that it can cause hallucinations I then saw something that was like call this number if your hallucinating from ergot poisoning. It freaked me out really bad because I was hallucinating and figured google knew and called the cops. I ended up calling my girlfriend to meet up while changing my clothes then thinking my mom was talking to me and saying that the cops are here (I was 14 at the time) I ended up leaving my house naked because I was so afraid I did not have time to put clothes on. It was insane and I do not recommend it for a first dose go with 3 grams or less.


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: bennylava]
    #21895814 - 07/04/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

bennylava said:
What are you guys' personal favorite set and setting? I'm thinking my living room, and some good tripping music playing on the TV. Also, a small reverse disco light, that sits on the coffee table, and the house lights dimmed down a good deal.

With a trusted sitter there. Does this sound like a good set and setting? I'm really comfortable this way. Nature and woodsy trips will be in the future when I have more experience. Don't feel comfortable doing that right away.




Sounds well thought out and very comfortable. Personally I am a solo tripper so the sitter part would take away from my experience IMO, but id say your ready to embark and can always tweak it down the line :laugh:.
I usually find most the things I setup for myself to do while tripping don't end up getting done because I find new sensations and thought waves to flow with that are nowhere near the third dimensional ones I had before going in. As long as you can do whatever you want in a place you feel safe in for the next 8-10Hours you should be golden

:thumbup:

My Set&Setting: At home( I live in a area with little to no nature and forest area :frown: ), good music, organic foods and water (just incase the need arises), some good Mary at the wayside, and about 1-3Hours or 1 day prior to get into the right mindset to actually gear up to trip.

Don't worry, once your there. You will know what to do.

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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Hypnotoad420]
    #21896164 - 07/04/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

SET:
fridays or saturdays I usually trip so I got 2 days to get back before school/working monday

SETTING:
chocolate shrooms (best way of eating them), more love [1]
psytrance
lots of light in room
houseplants
my tame budgies out and flying around
walk in nature
gardening
bed + blankets

draw on the comedown
guitar on the comedown

pre reqs:
lock doors
be alone
turn off phone, hide phone
uninstall facebook


DOSE:
3g chocolates is a good trip dose for me, not too much, not too little
many visuals, big mindfuck

I can always redose with this dose, up to 3.5-4g which is max I usually take, else it gets too unpleasant/intense


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[1]: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19168153 mushroom chocolate tek


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: lessismore]
    #21896490 - 07/04/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

lessismore said:
SET:
fridays or saturdays I usually trip so I got 2 days to get back before school/working monday

SETTING:
chocolate shrooms (best way of eating them), more love [1]
psytrance
lots of light in room
houseplants
my tame budgies out and flying around
walk in nature
gardening
bed + blankets

draw on the comedown
guitar on the comedown

pre reqs:
lock doors
be alone
turn off phone, hide phone
uninstall facebook


DOSE:
3g chocolates is a good trip dose for me, not too much, not too little
many visuals, big mindfuck

I can always redose with this dose, up to 3.5-4g which is max I usually take, else it gets too unpleasant/intense


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[1]: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19168153 mushroom chocolate tek





I lol'd uninstall facebook.

this is gold  :thumbup:


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Re: How many grams for first trip? [Re: Hypnotoad420]
    #21896710 - 07/04/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks everyone for all the help. Greatly appreciated.

Yeah they make it a pain to delete your facebook account, in the hopes that you won't be able to and will come back later.


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